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Obama attempts to stop execution of brutal savage...

  • Einstein said...

    Supremacy Clause of Article 6 people. A state can't override that if it's an international treaty we signed.

    What did the SCOTUS say today? Have you read the majority opinion?

    CocoWalk302

  • Rivver said...

    In what way exactly was the treaty violated?

    Article 35 in the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations of 1963. Which we ratified.

    This post was edited by Einstein on 7/7/2011 at 10:58 PM

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  • CocoWalk302 said...

    What did the SCOTUS say today? Have you read the majority opinion?

    I haven't read the actual opinion yet, but I disagree with them on this I'm sure.

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  • CrimsonTrojan said...

    He'll give some answer like "both". Watch.

    I'm an American, but I will never forget my roots - which also makes me American. White America is not America.

    Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

    appoo

  • Rivver said...

    In what way exactly was the treaty violated?

    It wasn't violated. The Obama administration wanted to SCOTUS to grant an injunction based on hypothetical law that might be passed by Congress one day in the future. It would be like saying my credit card company should forgive my debt because Congress might pass a law one day eliminating all credit card debt.

    It's that type of night law school crap that Obama and his minions think passes Constitutional muster. As someone in the legal profession I don't understand how the man was allowed to teach Con Law at a prestigious school such as Chicago.

    CocoWalk302

  • Einstein said...

    I haven't read the actual opinion yet, but I disagree with them on this I'm sure.

    me to , hello surrender

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  • appoo said...

    I'm an American, but I will never forget my roots - which also makes me American. White America is not America.

    And there you have it. White American is not synonymous with any American tradition. You sir are a stone hearted racist. It is because of a group of white males you enjoy the freedoms you have today.

    This post was edited by CocoWalk302 on 7/7/2011 at 11:01 PM

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  • CocoWalk302 said...

    Out of curiosity, if one of our foreign citizen smashed the head in of a person and brutally raped them in say, Germany, wouldn't you say he or she gets what they deserve? Or does your blind love of Barrack H. Obama get in the way? Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    I like your thinking. Upvotes headed your way.

    xxmgobluexx

  • shoeless7777 said...

    me to , hello surrender

    Of course, don't let reading the legal reasoning get in the way of partisan hackery.

    CocoWalk302

  • I don't know how he was able to either. Maybe because he was running the Harvard Law Review beforehand?

    shrug

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  • Einstein said...

    Supremacy Clause of Article 6 people. A state can't override that if it's an international treaty we signed.

    It doesn't matter.

    Without listing the exact part of the constitution, the federal government does not have the ability to take the powers of the states. Treaties that take a state's powers are not valid against a state.

    You're interpretation is that there are no states' powers because the federal government can make a treaty with a country and void them. It cannot do that. This was upheld by the US Supreme Court the last time this happened. In this case there was not an attempt to overturn the verdict but an attempt to stay the execution pending the possible passage of a federal bill.

    Again, the US Supreme Court has already decided the constitutionality of using a treaty to nullify powers that belong to the states. The US Supreme Court has repeatedly sided with the states. Therefore, your assertion of the Supremacy Clause is inapplicable.

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  • CocoWalk302 said...

    Of course, don't let reading the legal reasoning get in the way of partisan hackery.

    Or I just haven't had time to read it yet. I'm an independent voter by the way.

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  • CocoWalk302 said...

    And there you have it. White American is no synonymous with any American tradition. You sir are a stone hearted racist. It is because of a group of white males you enjoy the freedoms you have today.

    That fought for a country that was built upon the backs of black slaves, whose livelihood in the beginning was aided immensely by the teachings of the Natives which now sees a lot of it's technology imported from Asia.

    Sorry, a group of Americans made the decisions that allow me to enjoy the freedoms I have today. Your attitude is that of the King and Motherland from which we ran from.

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    sf2k4

  • sf2k4 said...

    That fought for a country that was built upon the backs of black slaves, whose livelihood in the beginning was aided immensely by the teachings of the Natives which now sees a lot of it's technology imported from Asia.

    Sorry, a group of Americans made the decisions that allow me to enjoy the freedoms I have today. Your attitude is that of the King and Motherland from which we ran from.

    Nice. Plus one.

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  • Einstein said...

    Or I just haven't had time to read it yet. I'm an independent voter by the way.

    Then maybe you should read it before you run your trap.

    CocoWalk302

  • sf2k4 said...

    That fought for a country that was built upon the backs of black slaves, whose livelihood in the beginning was aided immensely by the teachings of the Natives which now sees a lot of it's technology imported from Asia.

    Sorry, a group of Americans made the decisions that allow me to enjoy the freedoms I have today. Your attitude is that of the King and Motherland from which we ran from.

    How many white men died freeing the slaves?

    CocoWalk302

  • CocoWalk302 said...

    How many white men died freeing the slaves?

    How many black slaves fought for the independence of our nation and how many blacks died in other wars while at the same time they weren't allowed to do their damn laundry in the same places as us white folk?

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  • Also, the SCOTUS states ruled the treaty you guys are talking about was ruled non-binding on the states in 2008.

    CocoWalk302

  • See here's the issue: I get called a "liberal" because I strive for giving all walks of life in America the same, fair chance to succeed in life. People misconstrue that as me saying everyone DESERVES something or is ENTITLED to it, the "Right Wing Slant." That's not what I said at all. I said everyone, be it white or black, male or female, gay or straight, whomever all deserve a FAIR chance at life. That's the American dream, isn't it? If you work hard and apply yourself you can be successful and live a good life. I think a lot of people use the above insult they direct at me as a way to take that fair chance away from numerous groups because they're racists and bigots. Meaning they're not true Americans.

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  • CocoWalk302 said...

    Of course, don't let reading the legal reasoning get in the way of partisan hackery.

    i love your passion for sure and actually agree with some of your points but i dont think you have to criticize people and stuff to get your point across ....do you ??

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  • sf2k4 said...

    How many black slaves fought for the independence of our nation and how many blacks died in other wars while at the same time they weren't allowed to do their damn laundry in the same places as us white folk?

    So the 300,000 white men that died freeing the slaves is irrelevant? The white men that founded this national are racists, and the white Republicans that pushed the Civil Rights Act legislation in the 60's are also irrelevant. Try to read other stuff besides the Nation of Islam textbooks.

    CocoWalk302

  • shoeless7777 said...

    i love your passion for sure and actually agree with some of your points but i dont think you have to criticize people and stuff to get your point across ....do you ??

    Sure he does. When your points are intertwined with blatant racism and bigotry it's only natural for them to be laced with insults.

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  • CocoWalk302 said...

    Also, the SCOTUS states ruled the treaty you guys are talking about was ruled non-binding on the states in 2008.

    Exactly, thanks for adding the year I left out.

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  • CocoWalk302 said...

    So the 300,000 white men that died freeing the slaves is irrelevant? The white men that founded this national are racists, and the white Republicans that pushed the Civil Rights Act legislation in the 60's are also irrelevant. Try to read other stuff besides the Nation of Islam textbooks.

    Keep ignoring everything I say, it's really helping your argument. Oh, and it's 2011 you racist pig. I hope you have the balls to go up to every black, hispanic, asian, Jewish, whomever serving in our military and tell them they're sacrifices are not important.

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    sf2k4

  • CocoWalk302 said...

    Then maybe you should read it before you run your trap.

    I know enough about Constitutional Law to have my own opinion on this before reading the majority opinion.

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