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Obama attempts to stop execution of brutal savage...

  • Super Scooter said...

    Fact: Not to good unless you want to marry your sister

    Fact: C'mon man, you can do better. That and I don't have a sister.

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    sf2k4

  • America was better before liberal hippies came along

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  • aumajorpain said...

    America was better before liberal hippies came along

    The Founding Fathers were progressives back then, you know.

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    sf2k4

  • Einstein said...

    The new bill simply was to get in accordance with a treaty that was already signed and ratified years ago. I understand the supremacy clause was answered previously, which is why I'm knocking stare decisis because I disagree with those decisions. I think this goes right back to the clause, because you shouldn't have to have a bill to be in accordance with a treaty you agreed with anyway.

    You still overlook that you cannot have a treaty that takes away powers enumerated to the states.

    I am still waiting for a basis as to why those decisions are incorrect.

    Those decisions have stated that the constitution gives powers to the states.,Ruling otherwise, that a treaty can be made to override those powers, takes away powers given to the states and therefore is not valid against the states.

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    rompcat

  • Read the opinion, because you know...I had other things going before I read this thread believe it or not.

    Questions for you all...

    1. What about prewithdrawl obligations?

    2. Again, why does a state not have to inform a citizen of another country about it's legal rights under international treaty's signed by the government it's under?

    3. What happens if an American is in the same situation? Should they not be afforded these rights?

    4. The conviction was 16 years ago, yet the execution can't wait two months to make sure it's in accordance with an international treaty we signed?

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  • sf2k4 said...

    The Founding Fathers were progressives back then, you know.

    Nope, only TJ was. The rest were federalist

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  • rompcat said...

    You still overlook that you cannot have a treaty that takes away powers enumerated to the states.

    I am still waiting for a basis as to why those decisions are incorrect.

    Those decisions have stated that the constitution gives powers to the states.,Ruling otherwise, that a treaty can be made to override those powers, takes away powers given to the states and therefore is not valid against the states.

    Not to...

    deadhorse

    But the Supremacy Clause in Article 6 overrides the states usage of their 10th Amendment rights.

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  • aumajorpain said...

    Nope, only TJ was. The rest were federalist

    headslap

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    sf2k4

  • Einstein said...

    Read the opinion, because you know...I had other things going before I read this thread believe it or not.

    Questions for you all...

    1. What about prewithdrawl obligations?

    2. Again, why does a state not have to inform a citizen of another country about it's legal rights under international treaty's signed by the government it's under?

    3. What happens if an American is in the same situation? Should they not be afforded these rights?

    4. The conviction was 16 years ago, yet the execution can't wait two months to make sure it's in accordance with an international treaty we signed?

    1. What about it?

    2. A state is required to operate its criminal system within the constitution or its verdicts will be overturned. IOW, the constitution states rules regarding search and seizure, therefore failure to follow them can erase a conviction because a constitutional right of an individual was violated during his trial. There is no constitutional right of an individual to be informed that he can ask to see his consulate.

    3. I don't care if a country does not INFORM an American that he CAN contact the American consulate.

    4. It has nothing to do with waiting to make sure it is in accordance with a treaty we signed. That question was answered in 2008.

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  • Einstein said...

    Not to...

    deadhorse

    But the Supremacy Clause in Article 6 overrides the states usage of their 10th Amendment rights.

    Care to back that up?

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  • Aaaahhhhhhh I'm the real America, all your haters suck a D

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  • CocoWalk302 said...

    Liberal playbook: can't argue with precedent and legal jurisprudence, resort to calling someone racist.

    Fact is a man paid the price for raping and stabbing a sharp object into a 16 year-olds vagina before bashing her skull in with a 30 lbs chunk of asphalt. The mentally sane people of the SCOTUS provided a clear and coherent legal opinion based on common law precedent established by prior courts. They refused to make legal rulings based on majestic laws or hypothetical legislation that doesn't exist.

    New day, more +1's.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    Fact: C'mon man, you can do better. That and I don't have a sister.

    Don't start with me

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  • Im just saying....I dont care if the person was white, black, mexican, jewish, spanglish, blasian, or anything in between. Hes a murdering rapist piece of shit and if they would let me Id smash his shit in with the same stone! This should at the very least give the family of the victem a little bit of closure. I cant believe everyone ITT taking up for a scumb bag murderer! Take off the political blinders and realize what this fool did is deserving of death!! What if that was your sister, or you mother? I bet that would change your views entirely!

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  • josh1976gator said...

    Im just saying....I dont care if the person was white, black, mexican, jewish, spanglish, blasian, or anything in between. Hes a murdering rapist piece of shit and if they would let me Id smash his shit in with the same stone! This should at the very least give the family of the victem a little bit of closure. I cant believe everyone ITT taking up for a scumb bag murderer! Take off the political blinders and realize what this fool did is deserving of death!! What if that was your sister, or you mother? I bet that would change your views entirely!


    Nobody in this topic is taking up the "scumb bag murderer's" side. Not a single person.

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  • josh1976gator said...

    Im just saying....I dont care if the person was white, black, mexican, jewish, spanglish, blasian, or anything in between. Hes a murdering rapist piece of shit and if they would let me Id smash his shit in with the same stone! This should at the very least give the family of the victem a little bit of closure. I cant believe everyone ITT taking up for a scumb bag murderer! Take off the political blinders and realize what this fool did is deserving of death!! What if that was your sister, or you mother? I bet that would change your views entirely!

    +1, spot on man. My wife, my kids, my mom, I would find a way to kill him myself if the libs cried and had him go free.

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  • CocoWalk302 said...

    Liberalism is a mental disorder. The sooner you view it that way the quicker you will understand it.

    +1

    cwsanders43

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    +1, spot on man. My wife, my kids, my mom, I would find a way to kill him myself if the libs cried and had him go free.

    Who said anything about the guy going free?

    So, it went from Obama attempting to delay an execution (for an idiotic reason) to... liberals crying and trying to get him to go free? Or as josh1976gator claimed, people supporting the offender?

    I guess I'll never understand why people need to become so political during political discussions. Because when that happens, the first thing to get tossed out the window are typically the facts.

    theyellow_dup


  • would'nt be easier to erase all of mexico? illiminate the alien problems, most of the drugs entering the US etc, and we could turn it into a vacation destination. after the radiation levels subsided, of course......

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  • CocoWalk302 said...

    Liberalism is a mental disorder. The sooner you view it that way the quicker you will understand it.

    Says the racist. headslap

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  • theyellowdart said...

    Nobody in this topic is taking up the "scumb bag murderer's" side. Not a single person.

    ok ill reword.......I cant believe all the people ITT supporting a move by our president that would keep this piece of shit from getting what he deserves.....Better?

    Fact: He was found guilty of a horrid rape & murder of a young lady!
    My opinion: He deserves to die! Torture his ass hostel styles

    Congrats Texas! Thanks for removing this POS from the gene pool.

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  • josh1976gator said...

    ok ill reword.......I cant believe all the people ITT supporting a move by our president that would keep this piece of shit from getting what he deserves.....Better?

    Fact: He was found guilty of a horrid rape & murder of a young lady!
    My opinion: He deserves to die! Torture his ass hostel styles

    Congrats Texas! Thanks for removing this POS from the gene pool.

    You're welcome.

    Rivver

  • aumajorpain said...

    SCORE ONE FOR REAL AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This calls for more fireworks in Paris... hold on I have to get naked

    Unbelievable...

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  • Rivver said...

    You're welcome.

    Lmao, Viva Texas.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    Says the racist. headslap

    More like a weird form of white supremacy where he wants all america to join white culture.

    Anyway, it's official - the UN has ruled that the US broke international law. I would remind everyone that the point of international law is to protect people from foreign nations.

    This discusssion has become completely absurd. The man who was put to death is meaningless - the only reason the president objected was because he thought Texas was breaking international law - which they were. if you want to argue that we shouldn't care about international law fine, thats completely different from what thee president was bring accused of here. He wasn't protecting anyone except Americans abroad.

    Argue that the law is dumb if you want, don't argue that obama was trying to protect a murderer. It's 100% wrong.

    This post was edited by appoo on 7/8/2011 at 2:32 PM

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