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Obamaphones sent to dead people

  • getmyjive11 said...

    That is an overly simplistic example. Nothing is for free. It would be a huge cost both to impliment and maintain. Why even bring that scenario up? Of course if things were free, everyone should have them. It would be a right then, not an entitlement.

    It's a much smaller cost now than it was 10 years ago, and honestly, 25 years from now, it'll probably be significantly cheaper and easier to implement and maintain. Hell, I could easily see them giving free cellphones and laptops (not necessarily the most powerful ones) to anyone willing to allow companies to utilize their processing power during downtime.

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    That is an overly simplistic example. Nothing is for free. It would be a huge cost both to impliment and maintain. Why even bring that scenario up? Of course if things were free, everyone should have them. It would be a right then, not an entitlement.

    It's not completely out of left field, I think Barcelona has something like this.

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  • TroyTide said...

    I just want to know the justification behind the program. Why does anyone NEED a cellphone?

    I'd say right now you're right, there are plenty of occupations that don't NEED a cellphone. But look at the trend of technology over the last decade. We're coming to a point where being "plugged in" is going to just be a part of everyone's daily lives. I mean, look at how many schools are trying to transition from paper textbooks to laptops and iPads. And trends like that will only continue to grow.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    It's a much smaller cost now than it was 10 years ago, and honestly, 25 years from now, it'll probably be significantly cheaper and easier to implement and maintain. Hell, I could easily see them giving free cellphones and laptops (not necessarily the most powerful ones) to anyone willing to allow companies to utilize their processing power during downtime.

    You are living in fantasy land. Is it cheaper? Of course. But building a brand new system from scratch would be terribley expensive. It would also be one step closer to government censorship.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    I'd say right now you're right, there are plenty of occupations that don't NEED a cellphone. But look at the trend of technology over the last decade. We're coming to a point where being "plugged in" is going to just be a part of everyone's daily lives. I mean, look at how many schools are trying to transition from paper textbooks to laptops and iPads. And trends like that will only continue to grow.

    Why does this fall to the govt and not the employer?

    At the very least, why is this not being run at lower levels (school districts) rather than the federal govt?

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    You are living in fantasy land. Is it cheaper? Of course. But building a brand new system from scratch would be terribley expensive. It would also be one step closer to government censorship.

    Fantasy land? They're on the cusp of being able to 3D print HUMAN ORGANS. You can't apply today's costs and standards to where we'll be in 25, 50, or more years. The technological advancement curve is way, WAY too exponential for that.

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    And do you guys realize just how many people 2.2 billion dollars serves? Assuming these are the cheapest phones with the cheapest plans ($25 per month), you are talking like 7 million people... doesn't that number seem a bit high? Shouldn't this just be like one phone per household? That would be like 6% of US households are on this plan.

    Obviously part of the problem with the program was more than the 7 million people you cited are using the phones.

    The free cell phone "costs the phone company $20, the government subsidizes part of the monthly plan ($25.00 a month??) and the user pays the difference.

    The cell phone companies have an incentive to make money, so the program gets abused. Another example of what happens when the federal government allows private companies to run federal programs. (Halliburton would be the most famous)

    I don't see anyone in this thread complaining about AT&T ripping off taxpayers, its always the mythical black woman with on her bedazzled I-Phone 5 that is robbing America.

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  • panic1013 said...

    Why does this fall to the govt and not the employer?

    At the very least, why is this not being run at lower levels (school districts) rather than the federal govt?

    All I was commenting on in my post was that the idea of "needing" technology now versus simply how "plugged in" we'll be in 25 or more years are probably lightyears apart.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    I'd say right now you're right, there are plenty of occupations that don't NEED a cellphone. But look at the trend of technology over the last decade. We're coming to a point where being "plugged in" is going to just be a part of everyone's daily lives. I mean, look at how many schools are trying to transition from paper textbooks to laptops and iPads. And trends like that will only continue to grow.

    We arent talking occupations. We are talking just having one for the hell of it. If you cant afford one, you dont need one period.

    It is also a shame that working people have to pay a fee/tax on their bill so others can have one

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  • Jeff4SC said...

    We arent talking occupations. We are talking just having one for the hell of it. If you cant afford one, you dont need one period.

    It is also a shame that working people have to pay a fee/tax on their bill so others can have one

    "Affording" them won't be an issue in a few decades. For anyone.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    "Affording" them won't be an issue in a few decades. For anyone.

    All I can do is laugh at this

    Jeff4SC

  • sf2k4 said...

    "Affording" them won't be an issue in a few decades. For anyone.

    LOL. Sometimes I just don't know what to think about you. You are pretty goofy.

    TroyTide

  • Jeff4SC said...

    We arent talking occupations. We are talking just having one for the hell of it. If you cant afford one, you dont need one period.

    It is also a shame that working people have to pay a fee/tax on their bill so others can have one

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  • Jeff4SC said...

    All I can do is laugh at this

    What do you have against what I'm saying? Have you not watched the trend of technology, from both a quality and price standpoint, over the last decade? Even just the last couple years? Hell, you can already get some SMART PHONES for free with a plan, much less a flip phone.

    You seem to not care really what something is worth or what it takes to operate the system. You only care that you've assigned some value to something and have decided that value makes it a privilege and, thus, no one is entitled to it. That's all well and good. But rather than writing off where we'll be in 25 years, why not wait and see what happens and re-analyze our situation?

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  • sf2k4 said...

    "Affording" them won't be an issue in a few decades. For anyone.

    We won't need them because we'll all be broke by then.

    This post was edited by BayTider on 3/12/2013 at 1:21 PM

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  • sf2k4 said...

    "Affording" them won't be an issue in a few decades. For anyone.

    DP

    This post was edited by BayTider on 3/12/2013 at 1:20 PM

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  • BayTider said...

    Were you the one I had a discussion with about taking job "X" because of $$$ Vs. Doing something you enjoy???

    Potentially. I've always been of the opinion that life's way too short to work a job you hate. Luckily I found a job I enjoy that pays me just fine at this point in my life. If someone wants to work a job that pays poorly and they're happy with it, more power to them. As long as they understand their situation.

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  • Why do you guys try to talk politics on tBB? These threads all end up the same. Colossal waste of time because you can't convince the other party your view is correct.

    Get your politics fix elsewhere. This is a football board FFS.

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  • Theta said...

    Why do you guys try to talk politics on tBB? These threads all end up the same. Colossal waste of time because you can't convince the other party your view is correct.

    Get your politics fix elsewhere. This is a football board FFS.

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  • azvalleybuckeye said...

    solid retort. headslap

    No need for a solid retort after this "Obamaphone" story has been proved false hundreds of times.

    I know "Obamaphone" sounds cool to say and you can giggle about it with your friends but it doesnt make it true.

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    An Obama administration program provides free cell phones and cellular service to welfare recipients?

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  • Haven't you guys learned BLF is a gay black guy who masturbated to Obama

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  • shortcbaseballa said...

    No need for a solid retort after this "Obamaphone" story has been proved false hundreds of times.

    I know "Obamaphone" sounds cool to say and you can giggle about it with your friends but it doesnt make it true.

    He never claimed Obama created the program, or the USF for that matter. Perhaps you should re-read his post.

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  • LScootU said...

    Haven't you guys learned BLF is a gay black guy who masturbated to Obama

    Only once? shrug

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  • Is this the original "Obama phone lady"?

    The Obama Phone Lady Wakes Up - YouTube

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dLZuKGTZlEY

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  • sf2k4 said...

    Fantasy land? They're on the cusp of being able to 3D print HUMAN ORGANS. You can't apply today's costs and standards to where we'll be in 25, 50, or more years. The technological advancement curve is way, WAY too exponential for that.

    Why does that matter? I fail to see how being able to print human organs means that we can provide wireless coverage to the whole nation without a significant cost. You also have not addressed the issue of government censorship. If the internet is free, cell usage will be free as well. All broadband providers will cease to exist along with telecommunication companies. What you will be left with is a government owned network that they control exclusively. What a stupid idea.

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