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Obama's second term starts today...

  • pcgamecock2001 said...

    How is most of that the federal government's job. show me in the constitution or bill or rights the gov't should do all of that. He has taken this country far to the left, or is trying. Also, on the first point, why should the press be allowed to show the men who fought and died for this country be made a political stunt. The press should NOT be apart of that. Let me guess, you make less than 50k a year if you have a job at all. Do you use your SNAP card to pay for your membership here?

    roflmao I'm a corporate lawyer, but by all means, continue on your tirade about me making less than $50K and using SNAP benefits.

    On the first point, are you against recognizing the sacrifice these brave men and women have made for our country? If you bothered to read the article, you'd see this line: "the media are allowed access to the ceremonies, but only with the permission of the dead soldiers' family members." You can't possibly believe that there's something wrong with making the American public aware of the very real cost of international conflict.

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  • Humble Warrior said...

    Like I said, not you.

    However, most those people are being helped so well that they have no need to go find a job.

    Please, show me how that's the case, I dare you.

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  • eskelies said...

    Oh knowing one...How is he paying for all of that? When he actually does something of merit let me know. You haven't got a clue. Tell me why the u-rate is 14.6%. Tell me why minr and many others health insurance has gone up 40%.

    Tell me why there are more 25-34 year olds on disability, or why more people are on food stamps or living off of welfare.

    Student loans have surpassed credit card debt. If no jobs are available, how do you expect people to pay? If you want to discuss and debate I think you better come with more than those things bc the guy can't pay for them without a budget and a surplus.

    Are you seriously blind? It's economics 101...go back to school and learn something.

    FFS, you didn't even read my post.

    Let's examine:

    "5. Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system." Boy, it looks like he's saving money there.

    "6. Established Credit Card Bill of Rights, preventing credit card companies from imposing arbitrary rate increases on customers." Damn, would you look at that! Another measure that doesn't cost the government anything and saves you money!

    "10. Eliminated subsidies to private lender middlemen of student loans and protect student borrowers." Wait, are you serious? Another measure that saves the federal government some money? No way!

    Read the actual post before responding with your generic nonsense.

    As for some more of your nonsense: by "u-rate", do you mean unemployment rate? Because that's 7.8%, not 14.6%. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/01/18/state-unemployment-december/1843577/)

    Why has your health insurance gone up by 40%? Unless I know all your finances and your specific plan, it's silly to ask this question. That's like me asking you why my dog won't come inside.

    "Student loans have surpassed credit card debt. If no jobs are available, how do you expect people to pay?" Allow me to introduce you to another of Obama's accomplishments, the 10% IBR. (http://www.finaid.org/calculators/ibr10.phtml)

    Now, let's see if you actually read this post before you respond again.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    What ever happened to helping thy fellow man?

    I do help my fellow man. I give a good bit to my church and other charities. Prior to 1965, people went to their church or families for help. Since then, people turn to the government. I think that is completely wrong and should be changed. If, as a country, think the government should do that, we can amend the constitution.

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  • TroyTide said...

    at noon EST. Do you think his first term was a success or failure? And why?

    sinking Where would I begin to explain how he failed? It would be easier to say what he has done right.....NOTHING!

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  • CMXI said...

    roflmao I'm a corporate lawyer, but by all means, continue on your tirade about me making less than $50K and using SNAP benefits.

    On the first point, are you against recognizing the sacrifice these brave men and women have made for our country? If you bothered to read the article, you'd see this line: "the media are allowed access to the ceremonies, but only with the permission of the dead soldiers' family members." You can't possibly believe that there's something wrong with making the American public aware of the very real cost of international conflict.

    I should have guessed an attorney. Let me guess, you sue corporations, not represent them.

    I am greatly appreciative to all soldiers who have fought in anyway for the freedoms I have today. I hurts me to see soldiers come back injured or not making it back at all. I pray for their safety everyday. I DO NOT believe they should use dead soldiers as a political stunt like this administration has used them. Hell, he sends the families form letters and does not take the time to write an actual letter thanking them. At least Bush did that.

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  • wvruger71 said...

    sinking Where would I begin to explain how he failed? It would be easier to say what he has done right.....NOTHING!

    Yep, I mean, who cares about paralyzed people's quality of life, amirite?

    "4. Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act, the first piece of comprehensive legislation aimed at improving the lives of Americans living with paralysis. http://www.christopherreeve.org/site/c.ddJFKRNoFiG/b.4506337/apps/s/content.asp?ct=6866203"

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  • pcgamecock2001 said...

    I should have guessed an attorney. Let me guess, you sue corporations, not represent them.

    I am greatly appreciative to all soldiers who have fought in anyway for the freedoms I have today. I hurts me to see soldiers come back injured or not making it back at all. I pray for their safety everyday. I DO NOT believe they should use dead soldiers as a political stunt like this administration has used them. Hell, he sends the families form letters and does not take the time to write an actual letter thanking them. At least Bush did that.

    Perhaps we should review the definition of "corporate attorney." I defend some of the largest corporations in the world - I was just in a meeting with a couple Wal-mart execs. You're 0-for-2, would you like to take some more guesses about my job?

    "I DO NOT believe they should use dead soldiers as a political stunt like this administration has used them."

    Please explain how this administration has used dead soldiers as a political stunt.

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  • CMXI said...

    FFS, you didn't even read my post.

    Let's examine:

    "5. Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system." Boy, it looks like he's saving money there.

    "6. Established Credit Card Bill of Rights, preventing credit card companies from imposing arbitrary rate increases on customers." Damn, would you look at that! Another measure that doesn't cost the government anything and saves you money!

    "10. Eliminated subsidies to private lender middlemen of student loans and protect student borrowers." Wait, are you serious? Another measure that saves the federal government some money? No way!

    Read the actual post before responding with your generic nonsense.

    As for some more of your nonsense: by "u-rate", do you mean unemployment rate? Because that's 7.8%, not 14.6%. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/01/18/state-unemployment-december/1843577/)

    Why has your health insurance gone up by 40%? Unless I know all your finances and your specific plan, it's silly to ask this question. That's like me asking you why my dog won't come inside.

    "Student loans have surpassed credit card debt. If no jobs are available, how do you expect people to pay?" Allow me to introduce you to another of Obama's accomplishments, the 10% IBR. (http://www.finaid.org/calculators/ibr10.phtml)

    Now, let's see if you actually read this post before you respond again.

    Once again, that is not the governments job. The credit card act has made it tougher for many to get credit, which slows the economy. If you don't pay your bills, as a lender, I should be allowed to increase your rate bc you just got put in a different risk pool. I can tell you don't like the free market, but everything the goverment gets involved in, they screw it up. Look at housing and the CRA, Fannie and Freddie. Bush tried to do something (but did not push hard enough IMHO) but the Dems stopped it, and then blame bush for doing nothing.

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  • Why is it that some people are very anti-federal government but very pro-state government? I only ask because, to me, they're both governments. Shouldn't the stance simply be anti- or pro-government in general?

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  • CMXI said...

    Perhaps we should review the definition of "corporate attorney." I defend some of the largest corporations in the world - I was just in a meeting with a couple Wal-mart execs. You're 0-for-2, would you like to take some more guesses about my job?

    "I DO NOT believe they should use dead soldiers as a political stunt like this administration has used them."

    Please explain how this administration has used dead soldiers as a political stunt.

    He changed the policy without even telling the pentagon and many of the families did not want pictures to be taken.

    White House Photo Of Dead Troops Ceremony Sparks Protest

    WASHINGTON -- A White House photographer was allowed to take and widely distribute a photo from the ceremony Tuesday for the return of the remains of 30 American troops killed in a weekend helicopter crash in Afghanistan despite the Pentagons claim that any public depiction of the scene would violate the wishes of bereaved families. News media coverage of the ceremony had been banned by the Pentagon over the objections of several news organizations.

    www.huffingtonpost.com
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  • pcgamecock2001 said...

    Once again, that is not the governments job. The credit card act has made it tougher for many to get credit, which slows the economy. If you don't pay your bills, as a lender, I should be allowed to increase your rate bc you just got put in a different risk pool. I can tell you don't like the free market, but everything the goverment gets involved in, they screw it up. Look at housing and the CRA, Fannie and Freddie. Bush tried to do something (but did not push hard enough IMHO) but the Dems stopped it, and then blame bush for doing nothing.

    Sooo...we should allow credit card companies to arbitrarily raise rates on their customers?

    The CARD Act only makes it tougher for people to get credit in the sense that credit card companies can't rip people off as much, so they may/may not offer as many cards. If you can show me something that shows the link between the enactment of the CARD Act and a decrease in available credit to the average consumer, I'd greatly appreciate it.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    Why is it that some people are very anti-federal government but very pro-state government? I only ask because, to me, they're both governments. Shouldn't the stance simply be anti- or pro-government in general?

    The country was set up that way, bc you have more say over state government bc fewer people vote and if you don't like the policies of your state, you can leave and go to one you agree with. If you disagree with what the country is doing, it is very hard to leave.

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  • CMXI said...

    Sooo...we should allow credit card companies to arbitrarily raise rates on their customers?

    The CARD Act only makes it tougher for people to get credit in the sense that credit card companies can't rip people off as much, so they may/may not offer as many cards. If you can show me something that shows the link between the enactment of the CARD Act and a decrease in available credit to the average consumer, I'd greatly appreciate it.

    Here is one

    Stay-At-Home Mom Fights New Credit Card Rule - DailyFinance

    The Card Act was passed in 2009 to protect consumers from unfair and deceptive credit card practices. But some stay-at-home parents complain that one part of the law has made it harder for them to get credit cards.

    www.dailyfinance.com
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  • CMXI said...

    Sooo...we should allow credit card companies to arbitrarily raise rates on their customers?

    The CARD Act only makes it tougher for people to get credit in the sense that credit card companies can't rip people off as much, so they may/may not offer as many cards. If you can show me something that shows the link between the enactment of the CARD Act and a decrease in available credit to the average consumer, I'd greatly appreciate it.

    here is another one.

    Winners and Losers 3 Years After Credit CARD Act | Fox Business

    As predicted, some credit card rates have risen -- on new card offers. It's less clear whether as a whole Americans who already had cards are paying higher rates.

    www.foxbusiness.com
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  • CMXI said...

    Perhaps we should review the definition of "corporate attorney." I defend some of the largest corporations in the world - I was just in a meeting with a couple Wal-mart execs. You're 0-for-2, would you like to take some more guesses about my job?

    "I DO NOT believe they should use dead soldiers as a political stunt like this administration has used them."

    Please explain how this administration has used dead soldiers as a political stunt.

    Let me ask you, you seem to have a deep distrust of Corporations by reading your post history. So why do you defend them in court? Just wondering.

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  • pcgamecock2001 said...

    He changed the policy without even telling the pentagon and many of the families did not want pictures to be taken.

    The picture isn't even of any of the caskets.

    I don't see where you make the leap that this is a "political stunt." What does Obama or his administration stand to gain from this? Is it a bad thing that the American public is aware of the sacrifice soldiers make? Should we just sweep the 4000+ deaths of Americans from the Iraq/Afghanistan wars under the rug?

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  • pcgamecock2001 said...

    Let me ask you, you seem to have a deep distrust of Corporations by reading your post history. So why do you defend them in court? Just wondering.

    Well, mainly because I don't have a "deep distrust" of corporations. I'm not particularly pleased with many things that certain corporations do, but I don't have some blanket hatred for all corporations.

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  • CMXI said...

    The picture isn't even of any of the caskets.

    I don't see where you make the leap that this is a "political stunt." What does Obama or his administration stand to gain from this? Is it a bad thing that the American public is aware of the sacrifice soldiers make? Should we just sweep the 4000+ deaths of Americans from the Iraq/Afghanistan wars under the rug?

    No, we do not need to sweep their sacrifice under the rug. Just the opposite as when dead soldiers come home in South Carolina, many people line the streets and thank him or her for their sacrifice and show their respect. I don't know what you do when someone comes home dead that fought and died for your freed but I do show up on the streets and show my respect.

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  • CMXI said...

    Well, mainly because I don't have a "deep distrust" of corporations. I'm not particularly pleased with many things that certain corporations do, but I don't have some blanket hatred for all corporations.

    Makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

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  • 1) The real rate of unemployment is the only number you should concern yourself with bc its the only number that matters.

    2) Why do you need to keep saying you are a corporate attorney? Many of us could care less.

    3) His savings on military spending, ok but I would bet the numbers are trivial compared to the overall spending. When I get home I will see if I can find links showing this provided I don't have better things to do otherwise

    4) 10% IBR, why should the government forgive debt.

    Here again is another handout to print money and turn your back. Well I got news for you its your kids who will feel the brunt of his policies. Enjoy living in socialism and enjoy handouts.

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  • pcgamecock2001 said...

    Here is one

    I'm still not seeing how making a person with a stable family source of income apply with a co-signer is worse than the deceptive practices outlawed by the CARD Act. This doesn't make getting a credit card harder, it makes it so that a prideful person with no source of individual income has to actually rely on the partner that they already rely on for all their income.

    Why should credit card companies have to offer credit cards to people with no source of individual income? I bet you don't think that everyone on welfare should just be handed a credit card.

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  • eskelies said...

    1) The real rate of unemployment is the only number you should concern yourself with bc its the only number that matters.

    2) Why do you need to keep saying you are a corporate attorney? Many of us could care less.

    3) His savings on military spending, ok but I would bet the numbers are trivial compared to the overall spending. When I get home I will see if I can find links showing this provided I don't have better things to do otherwise

    4) 10% IBR, why should the government forgive debt.

    Here again is another handout to print money and turn your back. Well I got news for you its your kids who will feel the brunt of his policies. Enjoy living in socialism and enjoy handouts.

    1) Please, feel free to explain why that's the only number I should concern myself with.

    2) When someone questions what I do for a living, I'm going to respond. Don't read my post if you don't care.

    3) You do that. Make sure to also look at the savings generated by the ACA.

    4) Because the government has been subsidizing private student loan lenders and hasn't done anything to mitigate the exponential growth of college tuitions. It's also in the interests of the country's economy to ensure that young people can act as consumers and aren't simply in a perpetual state of indebtedness merely because they followed the path laid out before them to get a job.

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  • pcgamecock2001 said...

    No, we do not need to sweep their sacrifice under the rug. Just the opposite as when dead soldiers come home in South Carolina, many people line the streets and thank him or her for their sacrifice and show their respect. I don't know what you do when someone comes home dead that fought and died for your freed but I do show up on the streets and show my respect.

    I was wondering when the appeals to patriotism would start. lol

    Let's try to stay on topic and not devolve into a patriotic dick-measuring contest here.

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