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Observations: 1 team can beat Bama

  • RTR13 said...

    Ha, really? Ok so Fisher has beaten a 5 loss Florida team, a 6 loss Florida team, and a 5 loss USCe team. Congrats! What great accomplishments!

    The top of the SEC would've manhandled FSU and Fisher the past couple years. FSU is better this year but still not as good as the top of the SEC. Dipshit.

    USCe team won the east the year we played them(also beat Bama)

    i would consider that a win over a "top SEC school"

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  • swizz said...

    USCe team won the east the year we played them(also beat Bama)

    i would consider that a win over a "top SEC school"

    That South Carolina team lost 5 games that year, and the SECe was way down. It was a good win for Florida State though.

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  • RTR13 said...

    Ha, really? Ok so Fisher has beaten a 5 loss Florida team, a 6 loss Florida team, and a 5 loss USCe team. Congrats! What great accomplishments!

    The top of the SEC would've manhandled FSU and Fisher the past couple years. FSU is better this year but still not as good as the top of the SEC. Dipshit.

    Just stating the facts pal.

    Coulda, woulda shoulda means nothing. There are few teams on par with Bama as far as talent goes and FSU is one of them.

    but keep resorting to name calling when you can't come up with a valid argument. headslap

    Edit: And I never stated FSU would beat Bama this year or next.

    Bama is on another level, but FSU could beat every other team in the SEC THIS year if they played.

    This post was edited by Marshall Nole on 11/1/2012 at 9:28 AM

    Marshall Nole

  • 92DT said...

    That South Carolina team lost 5 games that year, and the SECe was way down. It was a good win for Florida State though.

    headslap

    won the east

    beat the second best team in the west

    if that doesn't scream "top of the SEC" then i don't know what does

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  • Marshall Nole said...

    Just stating the facts pal.

    Coulda, woulda shoulda means nothing. There are few teams on par with Bama as far as talent goes and FSU is one of them.

    but keep resorting to name calling when you can't come up with a valid argument. headslap

    It's pretty silly to say that FSU isn't close on the defensive side in terms of talent. But, to say that they're close overall is still a bit of a stretch. Great teams don't get upset by middle-of-the-pack ACC schools.

    Talented and freakishly athletic? Yes. Anyone who argues that is just being argumentative.

    Tough enough to stand in there for 60 minutes with Bama? Right now only LSU is, unless we're not playing well or as focused as we need to be.

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  • swizz said...

    headslap

    won the east

    beat the second best team in the west

    if that doesn't scream "top of the SEC" then i don't know what does

    You sure?

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  • 92DT said...

    It's pretty silly to say that FSU isn't close on the defensive side in terms of talent. But, to say that they're close overall is still a bit of a stretch. Great teams don't get upset by middle-of-the-pack ACC schools.

    Talented and freakishly athletic? Yes. Anyone who argues that is just being argumentative.

    Tough enough to stand in there for 60 minutes with Bama? Right now only LSU is, unless we're not playing well or as focused as we need to be.

    I made an edit after you posted this I guess.

    At this point I don't think we can hang with Bama. This year I think we can hang with and beat any other SEC team though.

    Certainly LSU. That offense is horrific.

    Marshall Nole

  • Marshall Nole said...

    I made an edit after you posted this I guess.

    At this point I don't think we can hang with Bama. This year I think we can hang with and beat any other SEC team though.

    Certainly LSU. That offense is horrific.

    I agree that LSU's offense appears to be horrific, but I think it only seems that way. They still play a style of football that no one in the ACC really plays, at least not on that level. It will take a meltdown by us with turnovers and sloppy play to lose to them. But make no mistake about it, they're physical enough on both sides to beat just about anybody up. They'd win the ACC with ease.

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  • 92DT said...

    I agree that LSU's offense appears to be horrific, but I think it only seems that way. They still play a style of football that no one in the ACC really plays, at least not on that level. It will take a meltdown by us with turnovers and sloppy play to lose to them. But make no mistake about it, they're physical enough on both sides to beat just about anybody up. They'd win the ACC with ease.

    You think LSU would easily beat FSU?

    We will have to simply agree to disagree.

    Marshall Nole

  • Marshall Nole said...

    You think LSU would easily beat FSU?

    We will have to simply agree to disagree.

    I think they'd win the ACC with ease. I think they'd beat FSU by about 10-14 pts and the Noles would struggle to get 10-14 themselves. ACC teams just don't see front 4s and secondaries like what LSU and Bama plays with.

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  • dpfenny said...

    Whose fault is it you play Murray State?

    Most teams play 1 Fcs teams. We are no where near alone in that regard. To use that against us in pretty ignorant and proves you're just flaming.

    dubnole

  • swizz said...

    headslap

    won the east

    beat the second best team in the west

    if that doesn't scream "top of the SEC" then i don't know what does

    We finished 4th in the West that year. Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Bama. USCe played an outstanding game against us and simply beat us, no argument there. I still think if you lined up FSU from 2010 against any of the top 5 teams from the West that year (MSU included), FSU would've been an underdog to all except MSU which would've played them very close.

    FSU beating 3 SEC teams, all with 5+ losses, means nothing as it pertains to their actual strength as a football team under Fisher. They would've finished middle of the pack the last two years in the SEC. This year, they'd fight it out for 2nd or 3rd with LSU, UGA, etc. They're getting better and I expect them to be in the national title race next year (but I've said that before).

    The reason for my sarcasm/name calling was because trying to use 3 wins over SEC middle of the packers as some sort of bragging rights was laughable.

    HADOUKEN

  • dubnole said...

    Most teams play 1 Fcs teams. We are no where near alone in that regard. To use that against us in pretty ignorant and proves you're just flaming.

    Many do play a FCS team. But they choose to do so, just like FSU did. They chose to play a horrible opponent. Don't cry when you get stuck with a second one and complain it is not your fault. If is obvious FSU has no problem playing a crap OOC schedule or they would not have scheduled Murray State.

    dpfenny

  • RTR13 said...

    We finished 4th in the West that year. Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Bama. USCe played an outstanding game against us and simply beat us, no argument there. I still think if you lined up FSU from 2010 against any of the top 5 teams from the West that year (MSU included), FSU would've been an underdog to all except MSU which would've played them very close.

    FSU beating 3 SEC teams, all with 5+ losses, means nothing as it pertains to their actual strength as a football team under Fisher. They would've finished middle of the pack the last two years in the SEC. This year, they'd fight it out for 2nd or 3rd with LSU, UGA, etc. They're getting better and I expect them to be in the national title race next year (but I've said that before).

    The reason for my sarcasm/name calling was because trying to use 3 wins over SEC middle of the packers as some sort of bragging rights was laughable.

    I went ahead and let RTR13 call you on this, swizz.

    The bottom line is this - every team in the SECe had 5 losses or more in '10. SC beat the 4th place team from the west and got boat-raced by the 2nd place team that year.

    They were NOT a "top" SEC team that year ... they just happened to be the only team with an SEC record above .500 in their own division.

    Facts do suck.

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  • hubcitytider said...

    handle nc state first.
    win the acc (always crummy conference)
    win a bcs bowl...it will mark the acc's 2nd bcs bowl win in 15 years.

    based on the history of fsu, next year will always be years away. painful to watch acc football, it should be played on week nights.

    yeah because those riveting 9-6 games should be played in primetime lulz

    cuznchips28

  • cuznchips28 said...

    yeah because those riveting 9-6 games should be played in primetime lulz

    I'm sure you threw up watching that.

    Just like I did watching over 90 points get scored between you and Clemson. And you guys think you could go toe to toe with us? You let Clemson score 5 TDs. I'm not sure we've given up 5 TDs all year.

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  • RTR13 said...

    We finished 4th in the West that year. Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Bama. USCe played an outstanding game against us and simply beat us, no argument there. I still think if you lined up FSU from 2010 against any of the top 5 teams from the West that year (MSU included), FSU would've been an underdog to all except MSU which would've played them very close.

    FSU beating 3 SEC teams, all with 5+ losses, means nothing as it pertains to their actual strength as a football team under Fisher. They would've finished middle of the pack the last two years in the SEC. This year, they'd fight it out for 2nd or 3rd with LSU, UGA, etc. They're getting better and I expect them to be in the national title race next year (but I've said that before).

    The reason for my sarcasm/name calling was because trying to use 3 wins over SEC middle of the packers as some sort of bragging rights was laughable.

    Well again, I don't think we can beat Bama this year or next.

    My response about 3 victories over SEC teams was in response to the pathetic flame attempt by hubcitytider where he acts as if NC State beating us was the norm instead of just some fluke.

    I stand by my opinion that FSU could beat any SEC team this year outside of Bama. LSU would not scare me either.

    Marshall Nole

  • Marshall Nole said...

    I stand by my opinion that FSU could beat any SEC team this year outside of Bama. LSU would not scare me either.

    I would agree with that. They are scarier than the Wolf Pack though. Just a little.

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  • deltadawg82 said...

    Nobody will come close to beating bama this year. NOBODY

    That's because the 9-0 Buckeyes can't play. Bama wouldn't be able to catch what they can't see with Braxton Miller.

    AlphaBuckeye06

  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    That's because the 9-0 Buckeyes can't play. Bama wouldn't be able to catch what they can't see with Braxton Miller.

    roflmao

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  • Laugh now but Osu is unbeatable, we're not michigan. Totally different beast.

    This post was edited by AlphaBuckeye06 on 11/1/2012 at 4:07 PM

    AlphaBuckeye06

  • deltadawg82 said...

    Nobody will come close to beating bama this year. NOBODY

    Wow, you have been through a mind altering experience!

    Ego Trip

  • 92dt did not throw up watching FSU-CU, he was too busy watching his beloved Bengals engage in a suckfest extraordinaire vs. Auburn. LSU's offense services truck stop knotholes and even SEC synchophants know it.

    FSU Football. Making cool the new swag since 2013.

    gonoles2011

  • let me see if i've got this right.

    -FSU is built to beat Bama
    -lost to NC State (again)
    -NC State was throttled by Tennessee

    lets just all agree that FSU would have been a far better fit in the SEC East than Mizzou but
    untill they quit losing games to the likes of Wake, NC State, & Virginia leave it at that.coffee

    This post was edited by Crimson_Ghost on 11/1/2012 at 5:58 PM

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  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    Laugh now but Osu is unbeatable, we're not michigan. Totally different beast.

    roflmao

    And GoNoles2011, I'm a Bama fan. WTH are you talking about? I'm not an LSU fan. But hear me on this: if NC STATE can beat y'all, I promise you LSU can. Get out of here.

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