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Due51 said...
You're not including the Better Homes & Garden National Championship, which contributes to Callahan's accounting of MSU national titles. Forget the fact that UPI used to vote on #1 BEFORE the team's even played their bowl game, as in 1965 when MSU went on to lose to UCLA.
BUT DON'T EVER FORGET THAT1997 WAS SHARED!!!!
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D.Wags said...
Your "Coaches strategy" is to make the call at the line. Less than 6 in the box vs. the Michigan Spread and Denard will call a run. (If your linemen aren't getting off the line and downfield, you guys really suck) But, wait, you knew that, you know all the new techniques. I'm sorry if I'm going over every thing you already knew.
If denard has seen a cover zeor he's also going to call run 60% of the time unless he sees something quick and a match up he likes and the ball is going to be out in about 2 seconds. If it's cover 1 with man under or one extra man deep, he's 50/50 at calling a run at the line of scrimage. If it's cove 2 or more, he's 70% or greater looking to pass first, but I've went through his prgressions in the other thread, and what the heck, you know all this stuff. Just old crap, from an old dog.
On your running plays, I've actually seen you guys option a tackle and block an end which Oregon has done,but you guys did some last year. On your speed options your linemen are releasing right now and looking at Linebackers and you guys are just saying screw the linemen, we aint blocking them. (if you are saying that they don't release because they're waiting for Denard to get over the LOS before they go to the LB's, well, you and I are watching different games.) If you want to talk about calls during the play when you guys slide protect with that whole "run pass" option you guys were talking about, well, we'll have to go into the techniques your guys are first using in slide protection. Aiming high above the thigh to keep defenders hands down, and listening for any go calls during the play.
I'd love to talk any blocking schemes you want, as you are up on all the latest techniques, and this is actually the first year I didn't have time or a buddy who wanted to go to any football clinics. I'm old, and I fit into that category of "Old dog, hard to teach new things to". I'm not as qualified in any of the techniques and schemes as you are, and I'd love to learn from you. I've only picked up a couple things from watching Denard and Michigan on film, and talking to some people whose job it is to break that stuff down. They do it for a living, but aren't as informed as you, so I'd love to learn from you. (actually that's sarcasm, but if you really do have an inside to what Denard looks for or what your coaches have him calling, I'd love to hear it, just because that's the fun part of football for me)
Help an old dog out.
This post was edited by MrWoodson on 6/5/2012 at 12:14 PM
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MrWoodson said...
You know too much football to not understand that the blocking schemes are different in a zone read spread offense than a pro set. In a pro set, the decision whether to run or pass is made before the snap. A zone read offense is different. In a zone read, the decision about what to do with the ball generally is made after the snap. Sometimes the decision is simply whether the QB is going to hand off the ball to a RB or keep it himself, but many other plays are designed with run/pass or even run/run/pass options giving the QB the option to keep the ball, hand the ball off or throw the ball. And the QB makes that decision after the ball is snapped, not before. It is not power football out of the I and you don't block it the same way.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Wait, so your WRs have to make reads as to whether they're supposed to blocking their guys down field for a running play, or actually running passing routes for a passing play? Stop and think about how that'd work. Do they sit at the LOS, wait to look at Denard and see if he's going back to pass, and THEN start running routes?
Sorry dude, but you're completely talking out of your rear on this one.
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
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Giant Moose said...
Anything is possible, you are right. But the coaches have never thought Michigan was the best team. If it is close among three teams, the Wolverines might be left out of the national championship game because the Coaches' Poll has Michigan lower.
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
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SpartanRocky said...
Wait, so your WRs have to make reads as to whether they're supposed to blocking their guys down field for a running play, or actually running passing routes for a passing play? Stop and think about how that'd work. Do they sit at the LOS, wait to look at Denard and see if he's going back to pass, and THEN start running routes?
Sorry dude, but you're completely talking out of your rear on this one.
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Wait, so your WRs have to make reads as to whether they're supposed to blocking their guys down field for a running play, or actually running passing routes for a passing play? Stop and think about how that'd work. Do they sit at the LOS, wait to look at Denard and see if he's going back to pass, and THEN start running routes?
Sorry dude, but you're completely talking out of your rear on this one.
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WillyWolverine said...
No that's not how it works. For example, Michigan has a play where the slot receiver runs straight up the seem. Denard reads either the LB or Safety, depending on the defense, and if the slot WR is open he throws to him if not he runs. So, Denard is optioning off the LB or S while the WR runs his route.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Giant Moose said...
I think the coaches do not like Michigan. Honestly, I would be worried about that if I were a Michigan fan since there is a human element to who makes the national championship game.
I am not pretending that MSU is going to win it, either. Sure, MSU has had a nice run and it is great to finally have awoken from our long slumber, but it will take a lot for the Spartans to be in this discussion as well.
Only Ohio State and Meyer have a realistic shot until MSU and UM prove otherwise.
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
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xxmgobluexx said...
This video popped up a couple of weeks ago. Go to the 1:25 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfYwSjLAUG0
It is a zone read to Toussaint. The WRs are running routes and when they look back they see that the read went to Toussaint and they turn to block. Similar play happens a couple of times later in the video.
I don't know if this is what he was talking about, but it sounded similar.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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