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  • should is the key word - lots of things going on right now that could both help and hurt his cause

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  • shoeless7777 said...

    should is the key word - lots of things going on right now that could both help and hurt his cause

    Yep.

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  • I'm sorry,but fvck this "news" ish. There is a program on FNC that Stossel is doing and he is worse than Michael Moore. He's picking and choosing,cropping interviews. Instead of taking a libertarian,non party-affiliated approach, it is completely slanted right. It's ridiculous. How do we progress from this partisanship if we can't stop this garbage?

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  • Nm

    Rolling Stone Mobile - Politics - Politics: Why Obama's JOBS Act Couldn't Suck Worse

    http://m.rollingstone.com/?redirurl=/politics/blogs/taibblog/why-obamas-jobs-act-couldnt-suck-worse-20120409

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    Daily Kos: Obama leads Romney by landslide numbers

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/11/1082476/-Obama-leads-Romney-by-landslide-numbers

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    From most to least likely to need replacement based on age: Ginsburg, Scalia,Kennedy, Breyer,Thomas,Alito, Roberts,Sotomayor,Kagan.

    Of those,only four are in their seventies with Ginsburg being 79.

    That would put the composition of those four at one liberal,one split,and two conservative and by age of replacement: liberal,conservative,split,conservative.

    IYAM, if Obama wins Ginsburg retires and he replaces her with someone similar. The other three seventies seem to be fine in terms of health and stuff,so I think they stay on past next term.

    So I doubt BO gets a chance to replace anybody that would be of concern to right.

    Now if say a Dem wins again in 2016,then it would be a worry for ya.

    I'm becoming less convinced with each decision that any of those folks are truly conservative.

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  • Each and every day, it becomes more apparent that economics is so complex that it can't be put into a single theory. It's like science. The laws and theories only work in a "vacuum". You'll have low taxes, low regulation economy suck, while a high tax, high regulation economy thrive, while a low tax,high regulation economy stutter along. It's a combination of everything now: taxes,regulations, protection of property rights,education, health, natural and human resources, technology, infrastructure, R&D etc.

    And now it's on a local,regional,national,and global scale from New Haven to New Delhi, Scranton to Sydney, Lubbock to London. Cotton exports in India affecting textile factories in Brazil that affect the global bond market in New York City that affects the municipal tax revenue which affects the education of some kid in Harlem.

    Just crazy scale.

    This post was edited by BamaLivesFootba on 5/29/2012 at 11:49 AM

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  • New polls out today in Ohio, Iowa, Nevada and Colorado. Margin of error makes them all essentially a dead heat.

    It's gonna be a lonnnnnnnnnng summer, boys.

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  • A federal appeals court ruled today that the Defense of Marriage Act is unconstitutional. Story is linked.

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    A federal appeals court ruled today that the Defense of Marriage Act is unconstitutional. Story is linked.

    I can't remember if they tried or not, or if the GOP filibustered in the Senate or not, but I can't believe the 2008 Congress didn't repeal DOMA. Probably didn't want to waste political capital with Health Care Reform,Stimulus and other projects they were working on.

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  • It sucks ass how connected the global economy can be, but this job report screams that stimulus has run its course. The effects are over and the economy is at the tipping point between hitting the stride. March and April were revised upward. Commercial spending is rising, commercial inventory is rising, consumer spending is rising slowly,consumer wages is rising slowly. Jobs are coming slowly (100-200k average/m) and it can fluctuate depending on whether or not people jump back in and out.

    Commodity prices are dropping (especially the perceptively all-important crude oil), the dollar is strengthening against most currencies thanks to slow Asian growth and European recession,and the bond yields are ridiculously low right now.

    In real terms, they are negative and that is the perfect reason there should be spending on something that not only guarantees a substantial positive return,but stimulates growth.

    Edit: biggest anamoly---car sales. They are killing it right now. Hopefully, that can creep into home ownership soon. Would be huge.

    This post was edited by BamaLivesFootba on 6/1/2012 at 2:52 PM

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Who do y'all think will be Romney's VP?

    I think any of the three mentioned would be good choices, but for different reasons. Rubio is the obvious choice, but maybe he's too perfect. He young, conservative, hispanic, from Florida. He's very well spoken and seems well informed for a young guy. Jindal is an obvious pick as from the perspective of conservatives.. He'd wipe the floor with Biden in the debates, and would come across as a nice guy who knows his stuff. Chistie is something of an enigma for me. He's a political superstar, of sorts, in certain circles, and will probably eventually run for President. He might help Romney woo conservatives with his smooth talking style even though both are moderates. He might even help steal NJ for Romney. I'm a little worried that the Romney/Christie ticket might not rally the base though.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

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    With all due respect to the author, the Obama people certainly seem to think ObamaCare will be voted unconstitutional.

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    This Republican Economy - NYTimes.com

    Spending cuts and low taxes? They’re already here.

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  • Good stuff, thanks for posting

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    I think any of the three mentioned would be good choices, but for different reasons. Rubio is the obvious choice, but maybe he's too perfect. He young, conservative, hispanic, from Florida. He's very well spoken and seems well informed for a young guy. Jindal is an obvious pick as from the perspective of conservatives.. He'd wipe the floor with Biden in the debates, and would come across as a nice guy who knows his stuff. Chistie is something of an enigma for me. He's a political superstar, of sorts, in certain circles, and will probably eventually run for President. He might help Romney woo conservatives with his smooth talking style even though both are moderates. He might even help steal NJ for Romney. I'm a little worried that the Romney/Christie ticket might not rally the base though.

    Christie would be a terrible choice. The base has more or less embraced Romney just because beating Obama is priority #1, but picking Christie as VP would sour many of the conservatives who have begrudgingly warmed up to Romney. Christie's a good speaker and yeah, he'd humiliate Biden in any VP debate; but who wouldn't? Biden's a laughingstock and an embarrassment to the administration. And while Christie is popular in NJ, that's NJ only. His presence on the ticket wouldn't swing the state toward the GOP, it's a pretty dark shade of blue. Same thing sort of applies in Wisconsin; Scott Walker is heavily favored to survive the recall election, but Obama is still comfortably ahead of Romney in the state right now.

    I could get on board with Rubio. Not sure if he'd "deliver" Florida - or if he'd even need to. Same goes for somebody like Rob Portman from Ohio or McDowell from Virginia.

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  • EF_Wolverine said...

    Christie would be a terrible choice. The base has more or less embraced Romney just because beating Obama is priority #1, but picking Christie as VP would sour many of the conservatives who have begrudgingly warmed up to Romney. Christie's a good speaker and yeah, he'd humiliate Biden in any VP debate; but who wouldn't? Biden's a laughingstock and an embarrassment to the administration. And while Christie is popular in NJ, that's NJ only. His presence on the ticket wouldn't swing the state toward the GOP, it's a pretty dark shade of blue. Same thing sort of applies in Wisconsin; Scott Walker is heavily favored to survive the recall election, but Obama is still comfortably ahead of Romney in the state right now.

    I could get on board with Rubio. Not sure if he'd "deliver" Florida - or if he'd even need to. Same goes for somebody like Rob Portman from Ohio or McDowell from Virginia.

    Thanks for your post Wolverine. Respectfully, I don't think either of us could definitively aver regarding Christie. I could see him turning off some in the GOP and I could see him attracting enough independents to justify his candidacy. You're correct that conservatives have warmed to Romney out of necessity. But, i think most conservatives are desperate enough to get Obama out of office that they'd vote for Bill Clinton in order to make a change. I really think Romney's got the GOP base motivated simply b/c he's not Obama. Adding a northern moderate probably won't hurt, IMO, and would only help with moderates and even some Reagan type Dems. I could be wrong. And please don't put Florida in the win column yet. I actually think Rubio is the best candidate b/c of his appeal to hispanics (maybe he could deliver an additional 10% nationwide, which would be big) and deliver FL. Romney absolutely has to have FL.

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  • goodnews said...

    Thanks for your post Wolverine. Respectfully, I don't think either of us could definitively aver regarding Christie. I could see him turning off some in the GOP and I could see him attracting enough independents to justify his candidacy. You're correct that conservatives have warmed to Romney out of necessity. But, i think most conservatives are desperate enough to get Obama out of office that they'd vote for Bill Clinton in order to make a change. I really think Romney's got the GOP base motivated simply b/c he's not Obama. Adding a northern moderate probably won't hurt, IMO, and would only help with moderates and even some Reagan type Dems. I could be wrong. And please don't put Florida in the win column yet. I actually think Rubio is the best candidate b/c of his appeal to hispanics (maybe he could deliver an additional 10% nationwide, which would be big) and deliver FL. Romney absolutely has to have FL.

    Definitely not putting Florida in the win column yet (or Ohio, or Virginia), just pointing out that if the current trend continues (most recent poll from Florida has Romney +6), he may not need Rubio on the ticket to win.

    I wonder how much of a factor that would be in Romney's VP pick, anyway.

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  • Perception always does seem to differ from reality.

    CHART: Bush Vs. Obama On Private And Public Sector Job Creation | ThinkProgress

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/01/493849/obama-bush-jobs-record/?mobile=wp

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  • Who in their right mind would ever believe the Lame Steam Media? Polls are rigged to reflect the person or companies stance. Presidents are groomed, not elected. I mean come on Obama or Romney...Get real. They are on the same side the American public just cant figure it out.

    Topspin1

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Perception always does seem to differ from reality.

    Just an unbiased economic link here boys...thinkprogress.org...I assume this is about Progress for America not progressive policies...Right?

    "We don't care about anything but winning. No one cares about ethical standards thats for losers..." BUCKNUTS 21 self trolling.

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  • EF_Wolverine said...

    Definitely not putting Florida in the win column yet (or Ohio, or Virginia), just pointing out that if the current trend continues (most recent poll from Florida has Romney +6), he may not need Rubio on the ticket to win.

    I wonder how much of a factor that would be in Romney's VP pick, anyway.

    I didn't realize Romney was up that much in FL. I think VA falls into place for Romney. Ohio is the other state that he needs to win and may need some help in.

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  • highspeed said...

    Just an unbiased economic link here boys...thinkprogress.org...I assume this is about Progress for America not progressive policies...Right?

    Great job wading through the bias and getting to what mattered: the chart.

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  • Can anyone who affiliates with the GOP please rationalize blocking equal pay for women? Thanks.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Can anyone who affiliates with the GOP please rationalize blocking equal pay for women? Thanks.

    I don't know. You need to ask the President. The women in the White House make less than the men!

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