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One of these guys was not a Heisman finalist

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Lesticals said...
Kevin Minter also has better stats than Te'o but I guess stats don't mean crap anymore.
One thing, who won the Heisman during the year of that TAMU player? Because this years finalists are one of the weakest groups I've ever seen. You have to equate that into the discussion, IMO.

Every year is different.
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irishyoung420 said...
Whatever you say buddy.

If you don't agree with that u are a blind homer.
10 Major Poll National Titles (CFB record) 35 Bowl Wins (CFB record) 61 Wins over last 5 years (CFB record)
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irishyoung420 said...
Every year is different.

Very true.. I won't be upset if Te'o, JFF or CK wins. It's a weak year and all 3 are deserving in my opinion.
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Lesticals said...
Very true.. I won't be upset if Te'o, JFF or CK wins. It's a weak year and all 3 are deserving in my opinion.

Pretty much how I feel
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coolstorybro said...
If you don't agree with that u are a blind homer.

No blind homer. Do your goddamn homework before you call me that.
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coolstorybro said...
Actually
27 sacks
42 tfl
88 solo tackles
4 blocked kicks
1 safety
2 ff
1 fumble recovery
In 12 games

wow wow wow
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irishyoung420 said...
No blind homer. Do your goddamn homework before you call me that.

Homer.
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bamafan70 said...
Homer.

Good one douche.
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irishyoung420 said...
Good one douche.

Why thank you sir.
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bamafan70 said...
Why thank you sir.

No problem. I know you will but stay cool.
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coolstorybro said...
Actually
27 sacks
42 tfl
88 solo tackles
4 blocked kicks
1 safety
2 ff
1 fumble recovery
In 12 games

Greatest defensive year EVER. Straight Heisman robbery.
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ReasonableDoubt said...
Greatest defensive year EVER. Straight Heisman robbery.

actually no because that same year Barry Sanders put up the greatest offensive season in history
2600+ rush yards
3200+ all purpose
39 TDs
this was in 11 games not counting his bowl where he added 222 yards rushing and 5 TDs
so through 12 games he put up nearly 2900 yards rushing and 44 TDs
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Its insane how such an average season for an LB gets him into the Heisman.
If Kevin Minter played for ND and Te'o played for LSU, Minter would be a Heisman finalist and winning other awards. Same with a lot of linebackers this year.
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coolstorybro said...
And that is the point. He's not there because he is one of the most outstanding players. He's there because he plays for nd.

So all the coaches and former players that voted for Te'o to win the other awards are secretly ND fans? We own the world! I don't care who wins the award we have our eyes on the bigger prize. Manziel deserves it, enjoy the Cotton Bowl A&M..
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So all the coaches and former players that voted for Te'o to win the other awards are secretly ND fans?

No, they are idiots that don't watch games. Media sheep.
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Let me first say that I've wanted true defensive players to win it for a long time. Not because of my partiality to defensive players, but because SOMETIMES THEY'RE THE BEST PLAYER IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!
I'm also not a stats guy (not always). If it's an offensive guard, so be it. If it's gotta be a quarterback, look at what he did when the game was on the line. Look at his efficiency and what he means to his players in the huddle...not just yards/td's. I say this because it's so easy to look for all you need to see in a QB, but not necessarily a defensive player or lineman.
I don't know if Teo is the best player in football, and I think Manziel is incredible (would probably be my vote, though not because of his season of stats). I think to be fair, you have to look at what Teo has meant to his team.
Finally, I'm going to sort of break a rule of my own here and go back to the Derrick Thomas point my fellow Bama guys have pointed out. There wasn't anyone in football that year that was even in the ballpark of how amazing he was that season. 27 sacks and 44 TFL? That's ridiculous. I was a little league linebacker at the time wanting to be the next Derrick Thomas (I'll save you the suspense...I came up juuuuust short).
Sometimes, it just should be a defensive guy. I personally would vote Manziel, but I'll tip my hat to Teo if he wins it.
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Lesticals said...
Kevin Minter also has better stats than Te'o but I guess stats don't mean crap anymore.
One thing, who won the Heisman during the year of that TAMU player? Because this years finalists are one of the weakest groups I've ever seen. You have to equate that into the discussion, IMO.

Ricky Williams won it 1998.
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ND hype machine.
If Manziel had done the exact same thing at Notre Dame he would be "revolutionizing football" and "shattering records" and Te'o would be an overrated LB from the SEC.
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OHSethIO said...
Even Shazier this year for Ohio State has better stats... And he should not be a heisman candidate.

He has better stats than Derrick Thomas? I effing doubt it.
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LOL if anyone doesn't think Manziel hasn't already held his trophy. You have bet 150 dollars in Vegas to win 10. Think about it guys. They should've only flown one person to the ceremony
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This is one year that the Heisman shouldn't be awarded. No one has stood out and earned it.
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irishyoung420 said...
No blind homer. Do your goddamn homework before you call me that.

How Christian of you...
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UTK66 said...
This is one year that the Heisman shouldn't be awarded. No one has stood out and earned it.
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UTK66 said...
This is one year that the Heisman shouldn't be awarded. No one has stood out and earned it.

I'm sorry your team sucked this season
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Ollie North said...

I'm sorry your team sucked this season

Hey, if you're boy Joannie Football should happen to win it, at least it will be a
Lifetime Longhorn fan accepting the trophy. Think about that.
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