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Over signing rule ?

  • The sec self imposed a 25 signing limit on their conference two years ago . So my question what happened to this rule?

    NDFB ●

  • Like with any rule in sports, people found a way around it.

    PTCcock195 ●

  • NDFB said...

    The sec self imposed a 25 signing limit on their conference two years ago . So my question what happened to this rule?

    It still exists, you just failed to do your research. It is easier to make an ignorant argument than to find the real facts.

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  • You are probaly correct but I heard Tom Luginbill last year I think on Finebaum talking about this rule he said the sec could go over 25 last year if they were under 25 the year before to total 50 for the two years but this year they wouldn't be able to go over 25 . Is it still a rule or did they get change it . The reason for the rule the sec was getting alot of bad press fom the national media for over signing .

    NDFB ●

  • Well somebody needs to tell Georgia they have 30 now Texas am has 34 !

    NDFB ●

  • NDFB said...

    You are probaly correct but I heard Tom Luginbill last year I think on Finebaum talking about this rule he said the sec could go over 25 last year if they were under 25 the year before to total 50 for the two years but this year they wouldn't be able to go over 25 . Is it still a rule or did they get change it . The reason for the rule the sec was getting alot of bad press fom the national media for over signing .

    You can go over 25 if you take a small class the year prior. However, all of the recruits that number over 25 must be early enrollees.

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  • USMCAG said...

    You can go over 25 if you take a small class the year prior. However, all of the recruits that number over 25 must be early enrollees.

    ... and they therefore count as members of the previous year's class.

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    furrier

  • furrier said...

    ... and they therefore count as members of the previous year's class.

    Yes.

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  • So that means that people have found a way around it. Or, more to the point, the SEC adopted a rule that looks good in print, but it has no teeth.

    VaHorn

  • VaHorn said...

    So that means that people have found a way around it. Or, more to the point, the SEC adopted a rule that looks good in print, but it has no teeth.

    No, you're just an idiot. No signing class is over 25.

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  • VaHorn said...

    So that means that people have found a way around it. Or, more to the point, the SEC adopted a rule that looks good in print, but it has no teeth.

    Lol...there's a way around every rule.

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  • Roflcopter118 said...

    Lol...there's a way around every rule.

    It's not a way around. Haters are going to find any reason to tear apart the SEC. Hate on haters.

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  • USMCAG said...

    It's not a way around. Haters are going to find any reason to tear apart the SEC. Hate on haters.

    Sure it is. The NCAA already had a limit of 25 per class. They've had it for decades. The new NCAA rule (28 signing limit) and the new SEC rule (25 signing limit) were supposed to somehow cap the number of players you could sign to curb oversigning. If they don't do that, what exactly do they do? You didn't need a new rule to limit classes to 25 but allow EEs to be backdated to the previous class if it was under 25. That rule already existed. What does the new rule do? How does it work?

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 12/10/2012 at 3:55 PM

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  • So you sign 20 last year. That means we can sign 30 this year right? And of those 30, 5 count to last year's class. That means next year I can only take 25 right?

    I think the big question comes from what we do with those that don't qualify academically. If 7 don't qualify of the class that has 30, how many can I sign next year? Still only 25, or do I get to sign 32 because 7 didn't qualify academically? I would assume 32 because you can't punish a team for people not qualifying.

    To someone on the outside, you've just signed a class of 30, followed by a class of 32 even though the rule says you can only take 50 over two consecutive years.

    orionred

  • If you only bring in 20 in the fall, you can bring in 5 mid-term and bring in the full 25 the following fall. So while the guys are the same age, January enrollees can complete the fall class of '12. In other words, they're not signing in Feb, they're enrolling in Jan. The beauty of this is when kids get arrested, take up Buddism, or don't qualify, you can back fill to account for it. However, you cannot back count if you bring in a full 25 scholarchips the previous class.

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  • TheT12 said...

    If you only bring in 20 in the fall, you can bring in 5 mid-term and bring in the full 25 the following fall. So while the guys are the same age, January enrollees can complete the fall class of '12. In other words, they're not signing in Feb, they're enrolling in Jan. The beauty of this is when kids get arrested, take up Buddism, or don't qualify, you can back fill to account for it. However, you cannot back count if you bring in a full 25 scholarchips the previous class.

    Except that rule was already on the books. The 85 total and 25 per class caps have been in place for decades. So has the rule allowing EEs to be credited to the previous class so long as it doesn't exceed 25. What does the new rule do? Apparently nothing has changed.

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  • orionred said...

    So you sign 20 last year. That means we can sign 30 this year right? And of those 30, 5 count to last year's class. That means next year I can only take 25 right?

    I think the big question comes from what we do with those that don't qualify academically. If 7 don't qualify of the class that has 30, how many can I sign next year? Still only 25, or do I get to sign 32 because 7 didn't qualify academically? I would assume 32 because you can't punish a team for people not qualifying.

    To someone on the outside, you've just signed a class of 30, followed by a class of 32 even though the rule says you can only take 50 over two consecutive years.

    Yes that's right

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    deltadawg82

  • Oversigning.com could predict to the player the number of players that would leave Alabama between NSD and August. Everyone leaves for different reasons, but it would always magically be just enough to fit within the 85 player limit. Alabama had 21 players leave between Feb to August over a 2-year period. Penn State had 2 players leave over the same time period.

    VaHorn

  • USMCAG said...

    It still exists, you just failed to do your research. It is easier to make an ignorant argument than to find the real facts.

    bingo +1

    Crimson_Ghost

  • VaHorn said...

    Oversigning.com could predict to the player the number of players that would leave Alabama between NSD and August. Everyone leaves for different reasons, but it would always magically be just enough to fit within the 85 player limit. Alabama had 21 players leave between Feb to August over a 2-year period. Penn State had 2 players leave over the same time period.

    That's the problem. If you can increase the number of players you can sign simply by kicking existing players off the team, the new limits on signing are worthless. They haven't changed anytiing.

    MrWoodson ●

  • Took a look at aTm and noticed they have 34 commits. I guess they can do that because they had 19 the year before and will be counting a bunch of EE's to the previous year. That still puts them 3 over, or is there another caveat I'm missing?

    Go Gadah

  • Go Gadah said...

    Took a look at aTm and noticed they have 34 commits. I guess they can do that because they had 19 the year before and will be counting a bunch of EE's to the previous year. That still puts them 3 over, or is there another caveat I'm missing?

    There were injured players and some that didn't qualify.

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  • USMCAG said...

    There were injured players and some that didn't qualify.

    How is that any different than before the new oversigning rules? That's exactly how it used to work before. Nothing has changed.

    MrWoodson ●

  • MrWoodson said...

    How is that any different than before the new oversigning rules? That's exactly how it used to work before. Nothing has changed.

    Keep digging where there is nothing to dig, I enjoy seeing all the false accusations.

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  • orionred said...

    If 7 don't qualify of the class that has 30....

    with that equation you would have only signed 23. fingergun

    the 25/85 rule is a very basic math formula but most peeps fail to understand that it is based on the calender year, Jan thru Dec

    .

    Crimson_Ghost

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