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Over signing rule ?

  • Huburt said...

    http://www.themidnightyell.com/2012/06/breaking-down-numbers-in-class-of-2013.html

    This guy seems to disagree with you.

    Who cares? Sumlin knows more than you.

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  • Huburt said...

    http://www.themidnightyell.com/2012/06/breaking-down-numbers-in-class-of-2013.html

    This guy seems to disagree with you.

    He has it right, except it's 15 not 19. He probably got that off a recruiting site, but our coaches have been assured that we can take 25+10 this year.

    AggieEsteban

  • USMCAG said...

    Who cares? Sumlin knows more than you.

    And he knows more than you. At least 3 of your top 6 recruits will not qualify. If you stick at 35 and lose 3 to JUCO, then he may only have to yank the scholarship offer from one of the commits. He has already done that once this cycle. What is yanking a few more scholies among friends?

    VaHorn

  • VaHorn said...

    And he knows more than you. At least 3 of your top 6 recruits will not qualify. If you stick at 35 and lose 3 to JUCO, then he may only have to yank the scholarship offer from one of the commits. He has already done that once this cycle. What is yanking a few more scholies among friends?

    Wrong again dumb ass lol

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  • USMCAG said...

    Who cares? Sumlin knows more than you.

    You're a true conversationalist with a flawless strategy. If anyone questions you, just say "you're an idiot and don't know anything." That's brilliant. You avoid answering any questions by simply insulting the questioner, thereby putting them on the defensive. You must have been captain of your tech school debate team.

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    MSU isn't a very good football program.. takes year of consistent winning to get to that level. - copemoney 1/22/13

    Due51

  • PTCcock195 said...

    Good lord you're a loon if you believe what you just typed.

    You mean Saban is not a dwarf. Dang, AJ McCryonn must be 8 feet tall then.

    NcaaAssassinG13

  • Due51 said...

    You're a true conversationalist with a flawless strategy. If anyone questions you, just say "you're an idiot and don't know anything." That's brilliant. You avoid answering any questions by simply insulting the questioner, thereby putting them on the defensive. You must have been captain of your tech school debate team.

    This is a flame thread, not a conversation.

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  • USMCAG said...

    This is a flame thread, not a conversation.

    Well then how about you take the high road and tell everyone how many scholarship players return to Texas A&M next season, and how the 34 currently committed players affect the hard cap of 85.

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    Due51

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    You mean Saban is not a dwarf. Dang, AJ McCryonn must be 8 feet tall then.

    How many Natty's has your beloved QB and Head Coach played/coached in again?

    This post was edited by Macdaddy7930 on 12/10/2012 at 8:29 PM

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  • VaHorn said...

    And he knows more than you. At least 3 of your top 6 recruits will not qualify. If you stick at 35 and lose 3 to JUCO, then he may only have to yank the scholarship offer from one of the commits. He has already done that once this cycle. What is yanking a few more scholies among friends?

    We think that 2 won't qualify. The rest look good. We're taking 35 this year.

    AggieEsteban

  • Due51 said...

    Well then how about you take the high road and tell everyone how many scholarship players return to Texas A&M next season, and how the 34 currently committed players affect the hard cap of 85.

    Doesn't matter, nobody on here is worth the time. Worry about your own team.

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  • VaHorn said...

    And he knows more than you. At least 3 of your top 6 recruits will not qualify. If you stick at 35 and lose 3 to JUCO, then he may only have to yank the scholarship offer from one of the commits. He has already done that once this cycle. What is yanking a few more scholies among friends?

    You do realize Texas has signed 95 in the last four years, while aTm only signed 93.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    It's just a philosophical difference. The coaches that do it apparently are fine with telling a kid, hey sorry but you were just an insurance policy in case so in so didn't pan out, or sorry we mis-evaluated your talent level, you gotta transfer somewhere else.

    I can see why Saban yelled at reporters " you don't need to know about this stuff, the people don't need to know." Clearly Saban was worried that people would dig a little deeper on this issue and discover Saban's losing battle with integrity. Then, several Alabama players said they were forced into taking a medical hardship and it confirmed that Saban had stooped to the lowest level.

    I was hopeful that Kiffin would go the Saban route, considering what a scumbag Kiffin is according to tBB I figured he might go for it , just temporarily to make up for what the Nzaa did. But sadly, even Kiffin has too much integrity to stoop to Saban's level. Which is really low. Makes me wonder- any of you guys know if Saban is part-dwarf?

    Pretty sure the NCAA wouldn't allow him to do that until the sentence has been served. I'd venture your next class will backfill a decent number of spots. I don't know much about the ones talking about being forced to take a medical, but 1 guy in particular had head/neck injuries and the doc wouldn't clear him. FWIW, he would have been a starter....

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  • USMCAG said...

    Doesn't matter, nobody on here is worth the time. Worry about your own team.

    That's what I figured you'd say.

    I took it upon myself (knowing I couldn't waste the time of such an important person like yourself) to compile some numbers using Texas A&M's official website and cross-referenced it with Rivals recruiting page for aTm.
    2009 - 16 players from the 2009 recruiting class remain on the aTm official roster
    2010- 22 remain
    2011- 18
    2012- 16
    For a total of 72 tendered football players.
    72 current scholarship players + 34 offered/committed recruits = 106.
    85 - 106 = -21. This is the number of scholarships that need to free up for all 34 currently committed recruits to fit under the 85 hard cap.

    Any idea how many 2009 recruits will receive a 5th year?
    Any idea how many current players will enter the draft early?
    Any idea how many of the 34 committed recruits will fail to qualify?
    Any idea how many of the current 72 tendered players will receive medical redshirts?

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  • Why don't you idiots call Mark and ask him yourself.

    Mark Richt, Southeastern. ... Mark Richt, Head Coach at Georgia ... Contact. Phone Number, (706) 542-9036. Athletic Department Address Line 1, University o

    bcbama

  • bc.bama said...

    Why don't you idiots call Mark and ask him yourself.

    Mark Richt, Southeastern. ... Mark Richt, Head Coach at Georgia ... Contact. Phone Number, (706) 542-9036. Athletic Department Address Line 1, University o

    Exactly.

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  • TheT12 said...

    Sure it has. Look at it this way:

    Say Ole Miss (sorry rebs..er..bears or whatever) takes 38 LOI's. And instead of 24-25 qualifying, 29 qualify. They can't take 29 in the fall, so 4 kids that have already lined up roommates and have moving plans get screwed. This is unacceptable. In the past, there were always caveats (and we used them too), in that a couple of guys knew going in that they may have to wait until January to enroll (i.e., greyshirt). These are usually kids that really want to be at the school, and probably are willing to walk on over a lesser scholarship elsewhere. Sometimes this isnt the case, but still, they know about the possibility. So, say we'd sign 28, 2 didn't qualify, 1 greyshirt, problem solved. Kid still gets to go to Bama, just has to wait 1 extra semester....and he knew it in advance.

    Under the new rules, Ole Miss or Bama can only sign 25. So if they all qualify, they all have a spot. Period.

    Let's say 3 of the 25 don't qualify. You can bring in 3 early enrollees the next class to make up for last year's losses. Obviously, they can't be hurt by it, because if they're enrolled, they already qualified. Come February, we can still only sign 25. So under NCAA rule of 25 scholarship limit, there is no chance that a kid can qualify and get unexpectedly left out because a school oversigned and somebody watched baby Einstein and passed remedial summer algebra.

    Let's say Tamu suffered through a class because of a coaching change and a bad season. So they only brought in 17 players or whatever. Let's also say they're at 79 scholarship players w/ 22 graduating and 4 early NFL entries. They can bring in 32 kids during this academic year as long as 7 enroll early. (I just made up the numbers, but it makes the point)

    I know you see this as a huge competitive advantage, and I suppose it can be if your conference doesn't practice it. However, there is nothing at all wrong with it as long as kids aren't getting abused to make it work. It's just good management within the rules.

    This is the correct answer.

    Alonzo Harris

  • Macdaddy7930 said...

    How many Natty's has your beloved QB and Head Coach played/coached in again?

    Kiffin coached in what, 3?

    Alonzo Harris

  • Huburt said...

    So how does 34 work or even 33 or 32????

    Can you explain it to me ? Look I could be wrong but all your doing is calling me stupid instead of using your big boy words and showing me how I am wrong.

    I can explain it. They are allowed 35 commits. In fact, they can have 100 commits. There is no limit to how many commits a school can have. In the SEC they can have 25 sign LOI's. Early entry or grey shirts, doesn't really matter which. 25 is the max that can sign LOI's.

    VTSmitty

  • Due51 said...

    You're a true conversationalist with a flawless strategy. If anyone questions you, just say "you're an idiot and don't know anything." That's brilliant. You avoid answering any questions by simply insulting the questioner, thereby putting them on the defensive. You must have been captain of your tech school debate team.

    You can't fix stupid. With USMCAG being stupid is not just a job, it is an adventure.

    VaHorn

  • bc.bama said...

    Why don't you idiots call Mark and ask him yourself.

    Mark Richt, Southeastern. ... Mark Richt, Head Coach at Georgia ... Contact. Phone Number, (706) 542-9036. Athletic Department Address Line 1, University o

    Why would I call Mark Richt if my question pertains to Texas A&M?

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  • Macdaddy7930 said...

    You do realize Texas has signed 95 in the last four years, while aTm only signed 93.

    I did some ciphering. A&M is on on pace to sign 140 over the next 4 years (or 180?). SEC!

    VaHorn

  • SEC's 85 > than your 85.....and you all mad about it ITT.

    Stouds1

  • Stouds1 said...

    SEC's 85 > than your 85.....and you all mad about it ITT.

    Actually, no. We are just pointing out that we signed 95 to get our 85 and you signed 140.

    VaHorn

  • VaHorn said...

    Actually, no. We are just pointing out that we signed 95 to get our 85 and you signed 140.

    Maybe you should sign 140, and quit crying. It is working.

    This post was edited by Stouds1 on 12/11/2012 at 9:30 AM

    Stouds1