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MrWoodson said...
Again, I'm not taking shots at any particular team. But Houston Nutt and Bobby Petrino admitted to culling and I can't believe it doesn't happen a little bit by a lot of coaches. There is too much pressure to win and almost no one is going to turn away an extra couple of elite recruits every year if they can "creatively" find a way to squeeze them in.
I would totally change the rules. I would make it very simple. The rule would be that a team could add up to 23 new players to its roster every year and that's it. If a player leaves the team for any reason (injury, grades, criminal conduct, quits), the team cannot replace him. Basically, pick your 23 carefully because you don't get any "do overs". Of course, with redshirting, teams could theoretically have up to 115 scholarship players at a time. That is not likely to happen because everyone will have some attrition, but it would mean that the teams that recruit and manage their rosters the best would have an advantage over those that don't. It effectively flips the incentives around such that teams would be doing everything possible to keep kids academically eligible and on the team rather than culling them so they can squeeze in a few extra new recruits every year.
And it's incredibly simple. No keeping track of how many in each class or worrying about EEs and backdating. Every team can add up to 23 new players to its roster every year and that's it. Done.
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justinboze said...
Verbal commitments are not the same as signees. Why can't people understand that? One year, Bama had 29 commitments and people went crazy. 2 got drafted in the MLB draft, a couple more didnt qualify academically, and a couple more transferred out. However, Oversigning.com never changed their numbers and led everyone to believe that Bama signed 100% of their commitments. SEC haters ran with false information to prove their points. Anybody can post things that are not true to make a team or conference look bad. Wait to see how many TX A&M actually signs and are on the roster next fall before you assume that all 34 will count against the 25/85 rule.
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rollingtide2004 said...
I totally disagree with this. What is wrong with back counting and whatnot and making players earn their scholarships? No matter how good the talen evaluation is, not every player signed is going to pan out. If you limit teams to 23 like you stated, you also cost lots of kids scholarships and chances to go to college. Those players that many bitch about being processed still have a free ride to college. What's wrong with that?
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justinboze said...
Verbal commitments are not the same as signees. Why can't people understand that? One year, Bama had 29 commitments and people went crazy. 2 got drafted in the MLB draft, a couple more didnt qualify academically, and a couple more transferred out. However, Oversigning.com never changed their numbers and led everyone to believe that Bama signed 100% of their commitments. SEC haters ran with false information to prove their points. Anybody can post things that are not true to make a team or conference look bad. Wait to see how many TX A&M actually signs and are on the roster next fall before you assume that all 34 will count against the 25/85 rule.
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getmyjive11 said...
You should guarantee the scholarship for 4 years where a school simply can't cut the kids who aren't getting it done on the field. You also shouldn't be able to sign 35 guys knowing that some won't make it. I have no problem with "back signing" or greyshirting, but signing too many kids and then telling some that there wasn't enough room WAY after signing day is BS.
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getmyjive11 said...
You should guarantee the scholarship for 4 years where a school simply can't cut the kids who aren't getting it done on the field. You also shouldn't be able to sign 35 guys knowing that some won't make it. I have no problem with "back signing" or greyshirting, but signing too many kids and then telling some that there wasn't enough room WAY after signing day is BS.
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choog said...
That's BS in my opinion. If you don't perform, you get your scholarship cut. I had an academic scholarship cut for not performing, why should it be different with football. You're getting a free education. You can stay on the team, just not on scholarship.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
The difference is, I imagine your academic scholarship wasn't pulled because the soon to be rhodes scholar at a nearby high school decided to go to your school. I'm sure you had to maintain a certain GPA, and you knew what had to be done.
Or did they tell you, sorry we brought in a great freshmen class that raised the curve higher than what you were told. So even though we told you to maintain a 3.5 and you did, regretfully the retroactive standard is 3.7. Good luck finding an academic schollie as a transfer. Don't let the library door hit you on the way out.
It's too bad so many of these good kids down south get taken advantage of. One of these days, a pissed of father will deck Saban or the like, and it will be completely deserved.
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