The Blue Board

The rule should be that you can cut any player after the season is over, but the school has to pay his full tuition until he graduates (if he remains at that institution). If he chooses to transfer he should be immediately eligible at the school he transfers to.

Actually, it looks like Van Horn understands it better than you.

Sorry wasn't speaking of this specific case or saying that's what you guys were going to do. Just wanted to clarify with those pro over signing that they have no problem with that situation. Seems unfair to the kids imo

If it were not for Alabama, I doubt that oversigning.com would exist.

Alabama’s March to 85 Finished?

Updated with new numbers.

Here is what appears to be the final shake down on Alabama's post NSD attrition this year. Much like last year, Alabama is one of the few teams in the country to lose double-digit players post NSD. Quick, name another school that has lost 21 scholarships players between NSD and August over the last 2 years. That's an entire recruiting class. And 6 of those 21 were medical hardships. Here is the attrition for Alabama between National Signing Day and the August deadline to get to 85 players for the last two years. Any way you slice it that is a lot of attrition. For comparison's sake, Penn State has had 2 players leave their program over the last two years during this period of time.

nice spin, where is the number of early entries into the NFL,early-grad seniors,transfers (looking for more playing time) that start elsewhere (like Texas*),
3 medical hardships per year ? that number is astronomically high compared to what 2 for everyone else ?

oversigning.com = AJC(rag) = Marsha's Village Reports = a team publicly refusing to play A&M in a Bowl game that they couldnt even reach .

#'s crunch crunch, google google

a) "85" is 85 not 95, not 105, not 140.... really its 85.
b) NSD L.O.I. are not signed scholarships they are .....Letters of Intent. its one of the sole reasons we dont call them SS's(signed scholarships) on NSD.
c) the SEC shouldnt be blamed for 5 of the past 6 (7 of 8) opponents they were forced to play on the schedule in the NCG.

Your numbers are way, way off for Penn State.

bottom line ? (grayshirts arent always "injured players".)

i would have loved to see Bama get 3* OG Spencer "Flipper" Region in 2011 as a grey shirt. he would have spent his first 3-6 months on campus w/ his own dime & then been eligible to redshirt.

in short, he could have entered 2013 as a 21+ year old 6-6 350 lb redshirt freshman man-child w/ nearly two years in / around the system & a full four to play.

someone must have agreed w/ me because Clemson gave him a full ride.

You do have a point here about JC kids.A school like Kansas State, if you just look at the numbers, they look kind of like Alabama in terms of over signing, but you gotta factor in they sign a ton of JC kids, not just a few.

Georgia might look like Alabama this year when they sign 32, but they only have 53 scholarship players returning, so that wouldn't be over signing. Plus, Richt has already publicly spoke out against over signing.

I think that coaches that do it should have to put out this disclaimer- ( using Saban as an example ) who has been averaging approx 27 recruits each year for more than 4 years, which puts the # at about 107-108 every 4 years ]

Disclaimer "Hi, coach Saban here, we would like to offer you a FB scholarship to play for Alabama. Granted about 21% or 1 of every 5 recruits that sign with us will be kicked off or forced off the team over the next 4 years, but hey, the good news is about 79-80% of you won't get cut from the team. So are you ready to commit to the Tide, because we are committed to you; well at least 80% committed."

go read up on Christian Jones. Prior to committing to Alabama he said in an interview that he knew every year at Alabama he and every other player would be evaluated for inclusion for the next year. He said he loved it. That's what a system like this gives you.....the best from every player....there is no complacency because your spot is not promised. The kids know it going in and want it. So, what's the problem again?

Oh he's happy now, but according to his coaches and people around their program, Kiffin lied and screwed the kid over. Needless to say Kiffin won't be welcome back in Mesquite for awhile.

Hope you enjoyed 7-5 because it won't get much better. Saban, on the other hand, is coaching in his 3rd Natty in four years. Maybe you should worry about you own pitiful program and get off Saban's and the rest of the SEC's nuts. Keep the excuses up though and deflect.

Haters gonna hate. Hilarious!!!!

What research needs to be gone? Holes were found... that's all there is to it... there NO WAY someone should be able to sign 34 people in 1 class..... that's damn near 1/2 your team!

I personally dont have an issue with it... do I think its unfair? yes, but lots of things are unfair in life. so screw it! Things will eventually work itself out (whether other conf raise the limit or whatever the case is).

I know if I was in the SEC, I would do the EXACT same thing.... work EVERY advantage you can get! That's why they are the best, as much as I hate to say it.