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OHSethIO said...
What research needs to be gone? Holes were found... that's all there is to it... there NO WAY someone should be able to sign 34 people in 1 class..... that's damn near 1/2 your team!
I personally dont have an issue with it... do I think its unfair? yes, but lots of things are unfair in life. so screw it! Things will eventually work itself out (whether other conf raise the limit or whatever the case is).
I know if I was in the SEC, I would do the EXACT same thing.... work EVERY advantage you can get! That's why they are the best, as much as I hate to say it.
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FSUcksFSUx0 said...
Dude its not that hard to realize. If a team dont have 85 kids on scholly, and didnt sign a full class the year before. They can sign more than 25 so long as some of the kids are EEs and will rollback to the previous class(numbers wise), you people are so dumb you act like A&M is gunna sign 34 kids EVERY year. Gets your facts straight. You are just jealious, the top recruits are flocking to the SEC are you cant stand it. Just admit it
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coolstorybro said...
no i have a realistic view. you sign a LOI for free schooling based on your ability to play football. that is the only reason a player gets a football scholarship. if the player isn't up to par a year later....drop him. He is free to go about any of the other means regular nonathletic students use to obtain free schooling. by being dropped from an athletic scholarship, the player isn't sentenced to never graduating.
The whole notion that by being good at football in high school should somehow give a kid the right to an entire 4 year degree for free is stupid. this isn't kindergarten where every gets a pass.
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FSUcksFSUx0 said...
Dude its not that hard to realize. If a team dont have 85 kids on scholly, and didnt sign a full class the year before. They can sign more than 25 so long as some of the kids are EEs and will rollback to the previous class(numbers wise), you people are so dumb you act like A&M is gunna sign 34 kids EVERY year. Gets your facts straight. You are just jealious, the top recruits are flocking to the SEC are you cant stand it. Just admit it
This post was edited by OHSethIO on 12/12/2012 at 7:33 AM
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aubie25 said...
Oversigning is not just a SEC issue. The people who continue to try make it only a SEC issue are just jealous. Those people dont really deserve any
I have looked up some old recruiting classes over the last decade and there are plenty of Big 12 teams, Pac 12 teams, and ACC teams who have oversigned during that time. However, nobody makes a big deal out of what those conferences do because they simply arent as successful as the SEC
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
It looks like it's mostly a Southern thing
Players Signed 2008-2012 (The last 5 Years) ---------------------------------------------------------- Alabama 146/139 depending on the source Ole Miss 142 Arkansas 139 Auburn 134 South Carolina 132 Oklahoma St 132 Miss State 130 Florida St 126 Kentucky 126 Louisville 125 Kansas St 124 Washington 124 LSU 123 North Carolina 121 ================= Above 120 is quite a bit for 5 years considering that an avg of 21 puts you at 84 over 4 years, so over 5 years it would put you at 105 players (Add in the the usual attrition of a few each year and teams that stayed under 120 probably didn't over sign much)
Arizona St 120 Michigan 118 Arizona 118 Texas A&M 117 Tennessee 116 Oklahoma 116 Oregon 116 UCLA 116 Ohio St 113 Clemson 110 Oregon St 110 Georgia 108 Missouri 108 Florida 107 Notre Dame 104 Stanford 103 USC 101 Texas (somewhere around the 100-110 range but I don't have their numbers right now)
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
It looks like it's mostly a Southern thing
Players Signed 2008-2012 (The last 5 Years) ---------------------------------------------------------- Alabama 146/139 depending on the source Ole Miss 142 Arkansas 139 Auburn 134 South Carolina 132 Oklahoma St 132 Miss State 130 Florida St 126 Kentucky 126 Louisville 125 Kansas St 124 Washington 124 LSU 123 North Carolina 121 ================= Above 120 is quite a bit for 5 years considering that an avg of 21 puts you at 84 over 4 years, so over 5 years it would put you at 105 players (Add in the the usual attrition of a few each year and teams that stayed under 120 probably didn't over sign much)
Arizona St 120 Michigan 118 Arizona 118 Texas A&M 117 Tennessee 116 Oklahoma 116 Oregon 116 UCLA 116 Ohio St 113 Clemson 110 Oregon St 110 Georgia 108 Missouri 108 Florida 107 Notre Dame 104 Stanford 103 USC 101 Texas (somewhere around the 100-110 range but I don't have their numbers right now)
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Macdaddy7930 said...
From 2009-'12 recruiting classes, Bama has signed 103.
2009: (Signed 28)
Transfers (6) - Bowman, Marrow, Moore (transferred for Texas), Sentimore (suspended then transferred), P. Smith, Woodson
NFL (3) - Carpenter, Dre K, T. Rich
Medical (2) - K. Kelly, McKeller2010: (Signed 26)
Failed to Qual (3) - Belue, Dial, A. Hill
Transfers (4) - Carswell (suspended then transferred), C. Grant, Malone(suspended then transferred), P, Sims (Transferred to UVA)
Grad/Other (2) - B. Lewis, J. Williams (baseball)
NFL (1) - Menzie2011: (Signed 23)
D. Carter (kicked off/transferred), Douglas (RIP)2012: (Signed 26)
Dixon (transferred), B. Hill (JUCO)Out of the 103 signed, 25 are no longer on the team bringing the total to 78.
We have seven guys that are fifth year SR's from the '08 class, bringing our total to 85.
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aubie25 said...
The numbers dont reflect the numbers of players who actually got into school. Auburn had 21 players admitted in 2009, 30 players in 2010, 24 players in 2011, and 18 players in 2012. Four or five of the 30 players admitted in 2010 were jucos, so they only had two years of eligibility to start with. However, we wouldnt want actually facts to get in the way of your idiotic rants
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Yes, that's the point! The Big Ten schools don't sign 10 players that are questionable academically knowing that most will not make it. But hey, if one does, that low-three star kid who didn't even get on the field yet to prove himself and GTFO. What, he already moved into his dorm? Too bad! SEC baby!
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Yes, that's the point! The Big Ten schools don't sign 10 players that are questionable academically knowing that most will not make it. But hey, if one does, that low-three star kid who didn't even get on the field yet to prove himself and GTFO. What, he already moved into his dorm? Too bad! SEC baby!
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Yes, that's the point! The Big Ten schools don't sign 10 players that are questionable academically knowing that most will not make it. But hey, if one does, that low-three star kid who didn't even get on the field yet to prove himself and GTFO. What, he already moved into his dorm? Too bad! SEC baby!
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aubie25 said...
Like this entire thread isnt basically a flame. You have a few idiots ranting on about the SEC oversigning, but they just ignore how teams in their own conference do the same thing Big 10 fans want to get on their soapbox about not oversigning. How dare me pointing out they do things a lot worse
Word.
Oregon State is one of the worst offenders, yet I don't see them dominating the PAC12, nor being called out. Odd.
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