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aubie25 said...
Like this entire thread isnt basically a flame. You have a few idiots ranting on about the SEC oversigning, but they just ignore how teams in their own conference do the same thing Big 10 fans want to get on their soapbox about not oversigning. How dare me pointing out they do things a lot worse
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OHSethIO said...
Ok, so how about this... they have 88 kids on the roster, 17 seniors/graduated, and 34 commits, so what does that equal? 105.... so they have to cut 20 people (not counting the juniors who go pro, and potential drop outs/transfer)
LIKE I SAID, I'm not hating on them... they FOUND A LOOP HOLE! and I would do the exact same thing if I was them.
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Macdaddy7930 said...
Exactly. Riddle us this Big 10.
From '09-12 (four recruiting classes) the following teams signed:
Michigan = 94 (have 22 committed this year and still recruiting) OSU = 92 (19 committed and Urban still recruiting) Illinois = 90 (have 27 committed this year already) Minnesota = 96 (have 13 committed this year so far) Indiana = 93 (Have 19 committed)
Where are all these players going? Don't see too many Hoosiers and Gophers getting pumped into the NFL early. Very mysterious.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
Suspended then transferred is Sabanbonics for getting crunched by the numbers.
Michael Bowman, Ronald Carswell Suspended as 'Bama Begins Bowl Preparation - Roll 'Bama Roll
Put this in the category: Wide receivers Michael Bowman and Ronald Carswell have been suspended, as announced by Nick Saban in his evening press conference. Per Cecil...
www.rollbamaroll.com Alabama football: Darrington Sentimore, Keiwone Malone suspended indefinitely; Robby Green dismissed
Five players have left the Crimson Tide since the end of the 2010 season.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
It looks like it's mostly a Southern thing
Players Signed 2008-2012 (The last 5 Years) ---------------------------------------------------------- Alabama 146/139 depending on the source Ole Miss 142 Arkansas 139 Auburn 134 South Carolina 132 Oklahoma St 132 Miss State 130 Florida St 126 Kentucky 126 Louisville 125 Kansas St 124 Washington 124 LSU 123 North Carolina 121 ================= Above 120 is quite a bit for 5 years considering that an avg of 21 puts you at 84 over 4 years, so over 5 years it would put you at 105 players (Add in the the usual attrition of a few each year and teams that stayed under 120 probably didn't over sign much)
Arizona St 120 Michigan 118 Arizona 118 Texas A&M 117 Tennessee 116 Oklahoma 116 Oregon 116 UCLA 116 Ohio St 113 Clemson 110 Oregon St 110 Georgia 108 Missouri 108 Florida 107 Notre Dame 104 Stanford 103 USC 101 Texas (somewhere around the 100-110 range but I don't have their numbers right now)
where did you get these majical numbers ? some publicatons NSD list of L.O.I.'s i assume.
am i right ? i'll go ahead and laugh now before you respond ...with a yes
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Macdaddy7930 said...
From 2009-'12 recruiting classes, Bama has signed 103.
2009: (Signed 28) Transfers (6) - Bowman, Marrow, Moore (transferred for Texas), Sentimore (suspended then transferred), P. Smith, Woodson NFL (3) - Carpenter, Dre K, T. Rich Medical (2) - K. Kelly, McKeller
2010: (Signed 26) Failed to Qual (3) - Belue, Dial, A. Hill Transfers (4) - Carswell (suspended then transferred), C. Grant, Malone(suspended then transferred), P, Sims (Transferred to UVA) Grad/Other (2) - B. Lewis, J. Williams (baseball) NFL (1) - Menzie
2011: (Signed 23) D. Carter (kicked off/transferred), Douglas (RIP)
2012: (Signed 26) Dixon (transferred), B. Hill (JUCO)
Out of the 103 signed, 25 are no longer on the team bringing the total to 78.
We have seven guys that are fifth year SR's from the '08 class, bringing our total to 85.
The tears on this board are so sweet.
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Crimson_Ghost said...
facts...well done.
i crack up when idiots try to scream "oversigning" & they dont have a clue how the 25 / 85 rule even works, its free comedy.a little food for thought...
*when EVERY team must be within the 25/85 guidelines at ALL times it makes the term "oversigning" mathematically impossible from the start
*then they drivel NSD L.O.I. numbers over x amount of years
- and havent a clue that NSD #'s do not in any fashion reflect the # of kids in the class that actually enrolled on a scholarship.sounds eerily similar to the occupy quacks
"A political call, the fall guy accord...We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train..."
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Crimson_Ghost said...
facts...well done.
i crack up when idiots try to scream "oversigning" & they dont have a clue how the 25 / 85 rule even works, its free comedy.a little food for thought...
*when EVERY team must be within the 25/85 guidelines at ALL times it makes the term "oversigning" mathematically impossible from the start
*then they drivel NSD L.O.I. numbers over x amount of years
- and havent a clue that NSD #'s do not in any fashion reflect the # of kids in the class that actually enrolled on a scholarship.sounds eerily similar to the occupy quacks
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Are you an honest to god idiot or are you just funning us? Most schools have a huge number of juniors and seniors that have never started and may never see the field in a meaningful way. Every one of them counts against the 85 player limit. Texas was always that way. So instead of taking 25-28 players they take 15. At Alabama every single one of them would have been forced to transfer, taken a medical redshirt, etc. It has meant that they have gotten the equivalent of an extra recruiting class every 3 to 4 years. The 25/85 rule does nothing to stop this. It doesn't apply at all times. It applies at the start of fall practices. have noticed more turnover of players at Texas in the last 2 years. Bad luck? Or an infusion of SEC coaches?
"A political call, the fall guy accord...We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train..."
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getmyjive11 said...
You should guarantee the scholarship for 4 years where a school simply can't cut the kids who aren't getting it done on the field. You also shouldn't be able to sign 35 guys knowing that some won't make it. I have no problem with "back signing" or greyshirting, but signing too many kids and then telling some that there wasn't enough room WAY after signing day is BS.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by PTCcock195 on 12/12/2012 at 7:20 PM
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Are you an honest to god idiot or are you just funning us? Most schools have a huge number of juniors and seniors that have never started and may never see the field in a meaningful way. Every one of them counts against the 85 player limit. Texas was always that way. So instead of taking 25-28 players they take 15. At Alabama every single one of them would have been forced to transfer, taken a medical redshirt, etc. It has meant that they have gotten the equivalent of an extra recruiting class every 3 to 4 years. The 25/85 rule does nothing to stop this. It doesn't apply at all times. It applies at the start of fall practices. have noticed more turnover of players at Texas in the last 2 years. Bad luck? Or an infusion of SEC coaches?
Bama has "forced" several out
Brandon Moore - starter/2deep at Texas ring a bell ?
Darrington Sentimore - sarter at Tennessee
Dez Hood (AJ's fav prep target)- forced to sign a big $ deal w/ MLB.
Zo Lawrence the only player not named Patrick Peterson that i ever seen cover Julio Jones 1 on 1 (repeated team violations)
Corey Smith- starter WVUi would call this culling the dead wait
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