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Papa Johns laying off workers and reducing hours.

  • bhiley77 said...

    Complain all you want about how its "inhumane", it's simply the way things are done here on planet Earth, and it's not going to change.

    Actually it is changing right now

    Also Planet Earth does not equal America

    Plenty of countries are destroying us on quality of life indexes and access to healthcare is a clear contributor to quality of life.

    The key argument here is whether my quality of life is more important than a full time employee at Papa Johns. To which I say I want the quality of life of America to be at the top. I would love to see our Gini coefficient to be closer to other developed countries. Not close to Chinas

    This post was edited by shortcbaseballa on 11/16/2012 at 2:24 PM

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  • thatdude16 said...

    im guessing at your job youre compensated wage wise greater then lesser employees, you should receive the same benefits.

    I don't agree at all but at this point it's neither here nor there.

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    DrStache

  • bhiley77 said...

    Oh good, everybody can stand in line to immigrate to those countries that "destroy" us on quality of life index. I take it you've already booked your flight to said country and are at the airport.

    And no, it's not changing right now. What's happening right now is people are losing their jobs because their employers can't afford to pay for their health care.

    No. I believe in this country and where we are going.

    What's happening now is that employers refuse to pay their employees health care.

    Read the Forbes study on Papa Johns. It's affordable. The CEO is more concerned about making a polotical statement than caring for his employees.

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  • psubills62 said...

    They all have the right to pursue health care. Nobody's preventing that.

    "Fair prices"...what is fair and who decides that? Is it fair that I never have to go to the hospital, but I have to pay rising premiums because tons of other people are making hundreds of claims that raise health care prices? I don't think that's very fair.

    you arent wrong, thats a valid issue, my point is that, i dont value myself as my job, im glad to make the money i do, im by no means well off, i worked hard in school to be where i am. i dont even champion 100% employer provided insurance, i think we should all pay in but i dont think its fair to say "well theyre just pizza makers" or " a delivery boy" i know a few people who purchase their own and it currently isnt cheap, because these people put in the hours they do, i believe the employer should have their back, even if its a 50/50 split. to simply reduce hours or totally layoff is wrong.to expect someone to get a basic, say, 120$ a month plan when making maybe 800$ a month isnt fair.

    thatdude16

  • Mr.Stache said...

    I don't agree at all but at this point it's neither here nor there.

    you believe that even your health benefits should be better, even though id imagine your actual take home pay exceeds other employees?

    thatdude16

  • bhiley77 said...

    Okay, we'll talk about Denny's instead. Denny's will have to pay $175,000 per store per year in health care costs, when not all of its stores even make $175,000 in profit per year. Got a Forbes article for me on that one?

    Like it or not, this is going to have to stop somewhere. You can't compensate an employee more then their worth and stay in business. If you think Papa John's and similar companies are just making political statements, be prepared to boycott more businesses then you don't.

    im okay with boycotting all those places.

    thatdude16

  • bhiley77 said...

    Then that person needs to get a better job so their life can be "fair". Or they can go without health insurance.

    youre a good person. you should be proud.

    thatdude16

  • bhiley77 said...

    Then that person needs to get a better job so their life can be "fair". Or they can go without health insurance.

    I completely agree

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  • thatdude16 said...

    youre just ignorant man, you make no credible argument so you resort back to some childish suggestion that no one is trending towards. grow up.howd that alabama loss taste?

    But requiring a pizza joint to pay for its workers healthcare is reasonable? How do you think fast food is so cheap? Profit margins in the food industry are razor thin, healthcare to all employees would do a serious number on those margins. You should reconsider who the ignorant one is.

    TroyTide

  • bhiley77 said...

    Then that person needs to get a better job so their life can be "fair". Or they can go without health insurance.

    Agreed.

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  • TroyTide said...

    But requiring a pizza joint to pay for its workers healthcare is reasonable? How do you think fast food is so cheap? Profit margins in the food industry are razor thin, healthcare to all employees would do a serious number on those margins. You should reconsider who the ignorant one is.

    Read the Forbes article and then get back to me about those margins

    Although I assume you will quit readying midway through

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Start by getting rid of everything you own that was made in China, as I'm sure not a single person who built any of your electronics or stitched any of your clothing has healthcare.

    I went to Michaels's (a chain craft store) with my wife last weekend. She was looking for craft supplies, I was checking the back of the products for where they were produced. The only American made products I found was some moss and some angry birds ribbons. There was some rope made in Madagascar, something made in Taiwan and everything else I remember was from China. Made me want to puke.

    xxmgobluexx

  • bhiley77 said...

    Then that person needs to get a better job so their life can be "fair". Or they can go without health insurance.

    Absolutely! Ughhh, I hate it when people choose to have crappy jobs. Why aren't you out there making 50 an hour with your high school education. Profiting off of human suffering is the way to go, and if you don't believe that then you're nothing but a bleeding heart liberal!

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  • TroyTide said...

    But requiring a pizza joint to pay for its workers healthcare is reasonable? How do you think fast food is so cheap? Profit margins in the food industry are razor thin, healthcare to all employees would do a serious number on those margins. You should reconsider who the ignorant one is.

    man "pizza joints" make a lot more money then youre aware of, alot........

    thatdude16

  • thatdude16 said...

    man "pizza joints" make a lot more money then youre aware of, alot........

    Papa Johns is not a "Pizza Joint"

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    I went to Michaels's (a chain craft store) with my wife last weekend. She was looking for craft supplies, I was checking the back of the products for where they were produced. The only American made products I found was some moss and some angry birds ribbons. There was some rope made in Madagascar, something made in Taiwan and everything else I remember was from China. Made me want to puke.

    not to kick off an entirely sperate argument but manufacturing jobs started disappearing under a certain president who made it tax friendly to send them overseas. it makes me sick as well and i buy local every chance its feasibly possible.

    thatdude16

  • This thread is absolute Gold!

    I've seen alot of 'political' threads in my time on TBB, but never have I seen such ignorance or contempt for the most fundamental principles of free market capitalism in one place.

    I have rarely witnessed anything more unintentionally hilarious than a bunch of uninformed college kids earnestly opining on something they know absolutely nothing about: real world operation of a business.

    Good luck securing investors/capital for your business enterprise premised upon internalizing taxes and other cost increases. roflmao

    Kudo's to the OP for drawing out all of the children who have absolutely no clue what it means to be the CEO of a business.

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  • Mr.Stache said...

    Lmao. Of course when it comes to the job market. I earn my company much more than Bobby the pizza boy. therefore I make and receive more. It's a business, it's not personal.

    Multiply "Bobby the pizza boy" by 10,000 then go ahead and remove him. Without "Bobby", Papa has no business.

    Nole27

  • shortcbaseballa said...

    Papa Johns is not a "Pizza Joint"

    if you scroll up, i was quoting it to mock his calling papa johns, a huge chain that makes millions, a "pizza joint"

    thatdude16

  • TroyTide said...

    You don't get health benefits at a minimum wage job.

    There weren't labor laws in the 20's either.

    Nole27

  • bhiley77 said...

    Complain all you want about how its "inhumane", it's simply the way things are done here on planet Earth, and it's not going to change.

    No, that's how things were done here in America. The majority of the 'civilized" world sees the intrinsic value in it's citizens.
    Thankfully, in our country, that's now changed.

    This post was edited by Nole27 on 11/16/2012 at 3:07 PM

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  • roflmao

    DV from some fag whose delicate sensibliites were offended by my prior post.

    Save yourself a lifetime of aggravation in the real world, and just get "Born To Lose" tattoo'd on your sloping simian forehead now, and report to the nearest encampment under local Interstate overpass.

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Okay, we'll talk about Denny's instead. Denny's will have to pay $175,000 per store per year in health care costs, when not all of its stores even make $175,000 in profit per year.

    Raise costs. It's that easy.

    Nole27

  • Jeff4SC said...

    I completely agree

    Of course the racist agrees.

    Nole27

  • Anybody arguing about "full time" employees proves you have no idea about how healthcare will be paid.

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