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Sir Mix A Lot said...
I don't think this all happened because of that report. the sanctions and everything else came down due to travesty of moral character at PSU. IMO it was a coverup to protect PSU football irregardless of wethter Joe was part of it or not. The athletic director was involved. We've had this disussion before, and you're going to say Spanier despised footbally, etc. It is my opinion that this was covered up to protect football because PSU football was the biggerst driver of spirit and $$ at PSU, and it was protected at litterally all costs.
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getmyjive11 said...
The NCAA sanctions certainly happened because of the report. Emmert said that specifically.
As for "protecting the image", if Joe Paterno hands over Sandusky, do you really think they would take a hit? Really? What would people be angry at PSU for.... doing the right thing? I just never understood that line of thinking.
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Sir Mix A Lot said...
The sanctions didn't happen because of the report. If PSU hadn't hired Freeh, the NCAA would still have taken their pound of flesh. This was the biggest scandal of my lifetime in college athletics, the NCAA wasn't going to stand idly by and say they didn't have jusrisdiction.
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The sanctions didn't happen because of the report. If PSU hadn't hired Freeh, the NCAA would still have taken their pound of flesh. This was the biggest scandal of my lifetime in college athletics, the NCAA wasn't going to stand idly by and say they didn't have jusrisdiction.
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Fatarat said...
Just listened to Jay Paterno on Mike and Mike. Golic went at him pretty hard and you could tell he was annoyed with Paterno rationalizing and justifying Joe and his superior's response to the report from McQueary. Paterno kept saying, "According to PA law at the time, Joe did what was required." Golic asked him, as a parent, if he thought in hindsight Joe and PSU did enough to help that kid, and the turd wouldn't even answer that question.
I don't think what went on, cover-up or not, deserved sanctions. It wasn't a football issue. The sanctions were a reaction to the sensationlistic nature of what was being alleged. But listening to this guy refusing to concede that anybody did anything wrong, constantly pointing to the benefit of hindsight, is not something I want to hear on the radio.
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CMXI said...
I recognize that it must be incredibly difficult to come to terms with the fact that your father (especially a guy held up as a paragon of virtue by an entire state) could possibly screw up a situation like Joe Paterno did, but seriously, the Paterno family just needs to stay out of the media. Nobody's changing their minds on this, regardless of how many interviews or new investigative reports come out.
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CMXI said...
I recognize that it must be incredibly difficult to come to terms with the fact that your father (especially a guy held up as a paragon of virtue by an entire state) could possibly screw up a situation like Joe Paterno did, but seriously, the Paterno family just needs to stay out of the media. Nobody's changing their minds on this, regardless of how many interviews or new investigative reports come out.
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getmyjive11 said...
I think that the issue at hand is whether Paterno covered this up or not. I myself have an issue with him not taking MM straight to police, but what he did is legal and "correct" per PA state law. So putting that to the side (since he followed proper protocal), did he cover this up? There isn't anything that points to that.
Sooo... I'm not saying your mind should change, but this needs to be put in a perspective. If what he did was merely kick the information up to his superiors, that is not the most terrible thing in the world... not even close. It is disappointing, but not heinous. It was a very poor choice.
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getmyjive11 said...
I think that the issue at hand is whether Paterno covered this up or not. I myself have an issue with him not taking MM straight to police, but what he did is legal and "correct" per PA state law. So putting that to the side (since he followed proper protocal), did he cover this up? There isn't anything that points to that.
Sooo... I'm not saying your mind should change, but this needs to be put in a perspective. If what he did was merely kick the information up to his superiors, that is not the most terrible thing in the world... not even close. It is disappointing, but not heinous. It was a very poor choice.
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CMXI said...
"Cover up" becomes an issue of semantics though - I don't think anyone disputes that Paterno did all that was legally required of him, so we're not talking about any sort of legal definition. It comes down to a moral issue - if you believe that Paterno had a moral obligation to do more than he did, then you probably believe he "covered up" to an extent by not telling someone else about what he knew was going on. Alternatively, if you believe that he did all he was morally required to do, then you probably believe there wasn't any sort of cover up.
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cockfool said...
Kicked it up the chain of command huh? It's amazing that prior to this scandal, Joe Paterno WAS Penn St. He was the most powerful, popular and revered man at that school and Penn St. fans would have had it no other way. Now....why Joe was just a football coach. Powerless really. What more could he do but tell his boss of an anal rape in the showers on campus? Who in Happy Valley would have listened to Joe Paterno anyway?
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