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Penn State fans are dumb. I know, not shocking.

  • MZizzle2 said...

    That wasn't the argument

    Good.

    You can't argue that Shazier isn't better than Mauti.

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  • devidee said...

    Good.

    You can't argue that Shazier isn't better than Mauti.

    I'll take Mauti over Shazier all day, I'd take Hodges over him too. You are always going to think that Shazier is better, no point in arguing with you.

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    I'll take Mauti over Shazier all day, I'd take Hodges over him too. You are always going to think that Shazier is better, no point in arguing with you.

    No.

    Shazier's stats say he is better.

    Your argument is based on emotion and Mauti being a pity case.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by devidee on 11/27/2012 at 12:02 AM

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  • devidee said...

    No.

    Shazier's stats say he is better.

    Your argument is based on emotion and Mauti being a pity case.

    Mauti was winning DPOY before his injury, most people thought that.

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    Mauti was winning DPOY before his injury, most people thought that.

    No. Most people didn't think that.

    I understand why he'll win. People feel sorry for the kid .

    Shazier had the better year. That's a fact..

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  • devidee said...

    No. Most people didn't think that.

    I understand why he'll win. People feel sorry for the kid .

    Shazier had the better year. That's a fact..

    Yes, most people actually did. I love how you bring up how PSU isn't LBU too and then run away from that argument.

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  • I am shocked by the people against all the allegations and penalties towards Penn State. Of course there are innocent people that are affected by this situation. But so are the children that were raped, abused, and pimped out. The governmental officials are to blame for not doing anything. Whom can they trust since then? Clean house and start over. Sucks, but is needed.

    Dendrobates

  • Dendrobates said...

    I am shocked by the people against all the allegations and penalties towards Penn State. Of course there are innocent people that are affected by this situation. But so are the children that were raped, abused, and pimped out. The governmental officials are to blame for not doing anything. Whom can they trust since then? Clean house and start over. Sucks, but is needed.

    Pimped out?

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    I'll take Mauti over Shazier all day, I'd take Hodges over him too.

    Based on what? Certainly not play on the field...soooooo

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    Pimped out?

    Didn't you hear about the children sex ring? just sickening......

    Dendrobates

  • Dendrobates said...

    Didn't you hear about the children sex ring? just sickening......

    That is a rumor with no evidence to support it. Just keep believing everything you hear and read on the internet.

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    That is a rumor with no evidence to support it. Just keep believing everything you hear and read on the internet.

    That is true, but of course it is all an investigation that is continually going on now.

    Dendrobates

  • Dendrobates said...

    That is true, but of course it is all an investigation that is continually going on now.

    And nothing has been found. Don't go spread things that aren't true.

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    That is a rumor with no evidence to support it. Just keep believing everything you hear and read on the internet.

    Why are you so against anyone presenting claims against it?

    Because Sandusky was a sick f**k, you think only he was the only one?

    Could very well be. But there is a lot to investigate, with a lot of power, politics, and people going on.

    Dendrobates

  • MZizzle2 said...

    And nothing has been found. Don't go spread things that aren't true.

    How is anything what I said not true? Sandusky alone was proven of those crimes.

    Dendrobates

  • Dendrobates said...

    Why are you so against anyone presenting claims against it?

    Because Sandusky was a sick f**k, you think only he was the only one?

    Could very well be. But there is a lot to investigate, with a lot of power, politics, and people going on.

    You are making the claim and acting like its true. I am all for investigating and I do think that more people were involved, but I don't think that Sandusky was pimping kids out to PSU donors or anything like that. The more that is investigated, the further it will get away from PSU.

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  • Dendrobates said...

    How is anything what I said not true? Sandusky alone was proven of those crimes.

    You said kids were pimped out, at this time you can't say that is a true statement. It is nothing more than a huge rumor.

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    You said kids were pimped out, at this time you can't say that is a true statement. It is nothing more than a huge rumor.

    I wouldn't be surprised if this was true, nothing would surprise me at this point.

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  • ejb5212 said...

    I wouldn't be surprised if this was true, nothing would surprise me at this point.

    People still shouldn't speak like its the truth to make PSU look even worse, when nothing has been proven.

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    You are making the claim and acting like its true. I am all for investigating and I do think that more people were involved, but I don't think that Sandusky was pimping kids out to PSU donors or anything like that. The more that is investigated, the further it will get away from PSU.

    Are you one of those people who still thinks that the NCAA wanted to take out Penn State for this crap? You are sounding like it.

    All you have to do it google about the "possible pimping" crimes of him. Yes, they are ALLEGATIONS! The point is, you have several people making these claims. People that have gone to the public, gone to TV shows, to report their stories. With everything that has gone on, it's almost not a surprise by the increased sick crimes that may have been committed. They have not been proven true, but are still being investigated on.

    I just have issues with people who think this is behind the times, and clean now that someone has been sentenced. It has already taken this long, for this sick perv to be committed. It is easy to suspect, and think, that he was not alone to go "undetected" and "hidden" for this long,

    There is a lot we don't know, and is still being investigated for sure. But, these allegations need to be taken seriously, and not dismissed so easily, after such an already heinous crime has been proven.

    Dendrobates

  • MZizzle2 said...

    People still shouldn't speak like its the truth to make PSU look even worse, when nothing has been proven.

    People still shouldn't dismiss it like it may not have happened.

    Dendrobates

  • Dendrobates said...

    Are you one of those people who still thinks that the NCAA wanted to take out Penn State for this crap? You are sounding like it.

    All you have to do it google about the "possible pimping" crimes of him. Yes, they are ALLEGATIONS! The point is, you have several people making these claims. People that have gone to the public, gone to TV shows, to report their stories. With everything that has gone on, it's almost not a surprise by the increased sick crimes that may have been committed. They have not been proven true, but are still being investigated on.

    I just have issues with people who think this is behind the times, and clean now that someone has been sentenced. It has already taken this long, for this sick perv to be committed. It is easy to suspect, and think, that he was not alone to go "undetected" and "hidden" for this long,

    There is a lot we don't know, and is still being investigated for sure. But, these allegations need to be taken seriously, and not dismissed so easily, after such an already heinous crime has been proven.

    I don't think the NCAA should have done anything to PSU if that is what you are asking.

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  • Dendrobates said...

    Are you one of those people who still thinks that the NCAA wanted to take out Penn State for this crap? You are sounding like it.

    All you have to do it google about the "possible pimping" crimes of him. Yes, they are ALLEGATIONS! The point is, you have several people making these claims. People that have gone to the public, gone to TV shows, to report their stories. With everything that has gone on, it's almost not a surprise by the increased sick crimes that may have been committed. They have not been proven true, but are still being investigated on.

    I just have issues with people who think this is behind the times, and clean now that someone has been sentenced. It has already taken this long, for this sick perv to be committed. It is easy to suspect, and think, that he was not alone to go "undetected" and "hidden" for this long,

    There is a lot we don't know, and is still being investigated for sure. But, these allegations need to be taken seriously, and not dismissed so easily, after such an already heinous crime has been proven.

    He's not dismissing the allegations, he's asking they not be stated as fact until after there is some evidence.... Any evidence.

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    I don't think the NCAA should have done anything to PSU if that is what you are asking.

    I disagree, but understand where you are coming from.

    Unfortunately, the people responsible covered up a serious crime. Something has to be done. It just is. There is pretty much no way to justify it, by the type of crime.

    Ultimate...life is hard and seldom fair. It just is.

    Dendrobates

  • ejb5212 said...

    He's not dismissing the allegations, he's asking they not be stated as fact until after there is some evidence.... Any evidence.

    We know that Sandusky was proven guilty. We know that PSU has covered up some of the allegations against him in the previous years.

    Right now, we have the evidence of victims who are claiming they were in a sex ring, partially based on Sanduskys actions. Those are the facts right now. That is what I am talking about. If I misspoke about that before, I apologize. But that is what I am referencing. It is currently still an open investigation.

    Dendrobates

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