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  • Lesticals said...

    Did I once say those 3 OL shouldn't be first team?

    Ummm....yes?

    Pedro Guerrero

  • Pedro Guerrero said...

    Ummm....yes?

    I don't think Les was trying to say that. He was saying Alabama fans would like the list because it is loaded with Alabama players.

    MildReTIDEation

  • MildReTIDEation said...

    I don't think Les was trying to say that. He was saying Alabama fans would like the list because it is loaded with Alabama players.

    That's an incredibly generous/creative interpretation. Here was his post in full:

    "It looks good to you.. I mean, 3 Bama OL on first team? Mingo 3rd team? Da'rick Rodgers over Justin Hunter? Corey Lemonier over Clowney?

    I could go on and on and on."

    He cites the inclusion of the 3 Bama OL on the first team as an example of the list being a joke, which clearly implies that he believes they "shouldn't be on the first team". Seems pretty unambiguous to me.

    Pedro Guerrero

  • Pedro Guerrero said...

    That's an incredibly generous/creative interpretation. Here was his post in full:

    "It looks good to you.. I mean, 3 Bama OL on first team? Mingo 3rd team? Da'rick Rodgers over Justin Hunter? Corey Lemonier over Clowney?

    I could go on and on and on."

    He cites the inclusion of the 3 Bama OL on the first team as an example of the list being a joke, which clearly implies that he believes they "shouldn't be on the first team". Seems pretty unambiguous to me.

    I think he ran two thoughts together. Based on his latter comment of "Did I once say those 3 OL shouldn't be first team?", I think he meant his sentence to be like the following:

    "It looks good to you.. I mean, 3 Bama OL on first team? (end first thought)

    Mingo 3rd team? Da'rick Rodgers over Justin Hunter? Corey Lemonier over Clowney? I could go on and on and on."

    You are completely ignoring the post where he denies your accusation. Why would he lie?

    This post was edited by MildReTIDEation on 5/24/2012 at 8:43 AM

    MildReTIDEation

  • MildReTIDEation said...

    I think he ran two thoughts together. Based on his latter comment of "Did I once say those 3 OL shouldn't be first team?", I think he meant his sentence to be like the following:

    "It looks good to you.. I mean, 3 Bama OL on first team?

    Mingo 3rd team? Da'rick Rodgers over Justin Hunter? Corey Lemonier over Clowney? I could go on and on and on."

    You are also completely ignoring the post where he denies your accusation. Why would he lie?

    This is so utterly ridiculous I don't even know where to begin. But I'm sure your e-friend will appreciate your logical gymnastics in his defense. If you truly believe what you just typed, you might wanna consider updating the username from "mild" to "severe".

    This post was edited by Pedro Guerrero on 5/24/2012 at 8:49 AM

    Pedro Guerrero

  • Pedro Guerrero said...

    This is so utterly ridiculous I don't even know where to begin. But I'm sure your e-friend will appreciate your logical gymnastics in his defense. If you truly believe what you just typed, you might wanna consider updating the username from "mild" to "severe".

    It's more ridiculous to ignore a direct response than to assume a forum post wasn't formatted correctly? Okie Dokie.

    You can continue to ignore Les's direct response to the accusation and consider yourself correct if you want. Or you can pull your panties up, stop being hypersensitive and use the all the information provided and come to a different conclusion.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MildReTIDEation on 5/24/2012 at 8:56 AM

    MildReTIDEation

  • MildReTIDEation said...

    It's more ridiculous to ignore a direct response than to assume a forum post wasn't formatted correctly? Okie Dokie.

    You can continue to ignore Les's direct response to the accusation and consider yourself correct if you want. Or you can pull your panties up, stop being hypersensitive and use the all the information provided and come to a different conclusion.

    lol Even accepting your gracious (and baseless) "reformatting" of Lesticals' post, it still doesn't read to say what you're oh-so-desperately trying to convince yourself it does. I mean, are you honestly contending that "It looks good to you.. I mean, 3 Bama OL on first team?" standing alone means anything other than 3 Bama OL should not be on the first team? Jesus Christ.

    As for his supposed denial, I think in the furor of trying to defend himself, the dumbass completely forgot he posted that. Funny that he's been conspicuously absent from the thread since that was pointed out (initially by awslacker).

    And no hypersensitivity here, pal. I just couldn't resist calling out his idiocy since he so perfectly teed it up. Seems to me the sensitivity is all yours -- you sure have gone to great lengths to apologize for your e-friend.

    This post was edited by Pedro Guerrero on 5/24/2012 at 9:11 AM

    Pedro Guerrero

  • kitemac said...

    BTW anyone saying this list sucks because of Lemonier over Clowney are kidding themselves. Clowney maybe better but if he is he didn't show it last year and at the very least it is very close.

    How did Clowney not show it last year? He played like half our plays and had ~10 sacks and like 5 FF.

    mpcoan

  • kitemac said...

    I don't have a problem with most of the lis except a big problem with Duron Carter. Tell me even if he was going to be on an SEC team this year what would make him be anywhere in the all sec teams. He hasn't played since 2009. That year he didn't have a year that blows anyone out of the water. Has he even practiced with Bama this spring? This would be like saying C. Patterson on UTk should be on this list. He's actually played on a team in the last few years though.

    BTW anyone saying this list sucks because of Lemonier over Clowney are kidding themselves. Clowney maybe better but if he is he didn't show it last year and at the very least it is very close. Duron Carter hasn't played since 2009. He's taken off two seasons and somehow he is supposed to be that good?

    For NFL purposes Clowney > Lemonier but I can see why Lemonier was ahead of him on this list. I don't necessarily agree but I understand.

    BMoney41747

  • Pedro Guerrero said...

    lol Even accepting your gracious (and baseless) "reformatting" of Lesticals' post, it still doesn't read to say what you're oh-so-desperately trying to convince yourself it does. I mean, are you honestly contending that "It looks good to you.. I mean, 3 Bama OL on first team?" standing alone means anything other than 3 Bama OL should not be on the first team? Jesus Christ.

    As for his supposed denial, I think in the furor of trying to defend himself, the dumbass completely forgot he posted that. Funny that he's been conspicuously absent from the thread since that was pointed out (initially by awslacker).

    And no hypersensitivity here, pal. I just couldn't resist calling out his idiocy since he so perfectly teed it up. Seems to me the sensitivity is all yours -- you sure have gone to great lengths to apologize for your e-friend.

    "I mean, are you honestly contending that "It looks good to you.. I mean, 3 Bama OL on first team?" standing alone means anything other than 3 Bama OL should not be on the first team? Jesus Christ."

    Uhhh, yes, obviously I am. That statement does not gauge the merit of the players in any way, shape, or form. It is simply stating that a Bama fan would be happy with 3 players on the first team OL and nothing else. You are simply projecting your preconceived feelings on it.

    "As for his supposed denial, I think in the furor of trying to defend himself, the dumbass completely forgot he posted that. Funny that he's been conspicuously absent from the thread since that was pointed out (initially by awslacker)."

    Again, you are ignoring the facts and projecting your own feelings here. You are basing your opinion on what you THINK he feels, not what he ACTUALLY said.

    And no hypersensitivity here, pal. I just couldn't resist calling out his idiocy since he so perfectly teed it up. Seems to me the sensitivity is all yours -- you sure have gone to great lengths to apologize for your e-friend.

    Great lengths? E-friend? I'm not sure I have ever even conversed with Lesticals, nor do I tend agreed with him frequently. I am just calling you out for being insecure and assuming he is a liar (which he has never seemed to be). I think it is amusing that you can't see the forest from the trees. You are a typical fan.

    MildReTIDEation

  • I've never liked Phil Steele's magazine. It's big, but there's no way to trust its reliability when one person is the final say for so many teams. You can't realistically tackle that many teams and do a good job with one person.

    ASBamaguy

  • mpcoan said...

    How did Clowney not show it last year? He played like half our plays and had ~10 sacks and like 5 FF.

    Lemonier had 9.5 sacks. Clowney had 8. Guess it might have not been great to say Clowney didn't show it last year. I still think Lemonier is better right now and I don't see how it couldn't be argued that Lemonier is better.

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  • MildReTIDEation said...

    "I mean, are you honestly contending that "It looks good to you.. I mean, 3 Bama OL on first team?" standing alone means anything other than 3 Bama OL should not be on the first team? Jesus Christ."

    Uhhh, yes, obviously I am. That statement does not gauge the merit of the players in any way, shape, or form. It is simply stating that a Bama fan would be happy with 3 players on the first team OL and nothing else. You are simply projecting your preconceived feelings on it.

    "As for his supposed denial, I think in the furor of trying to defend himself, the dumbass completely forgot he posted that. Funny that he's been conspicuously absent from the thread since that was pointed out (initially by awslacker)."

    Again, you are ignoring the facts and projecting your own feelings here. You are basing your opinion on what you THINK he feels, not what he ACTUALLY said.

    And no hypersensitivity here, pal. I just couldn't resist calling out his idiocy since he so perfectly teed it up. Seems to me the sensitivity is all yours -- you sure have gone to great lengths to apologize for your e-friend.

    Great lengths? E-friend? I'm not sure I have ever even conversed with Lesticals, nor do I tend agreed with him frequently. I am just calling you out for being insecure and assuming he is a liar (which he has never seemed to be). I think it is amusing that you can't see the forest from the trees. You are a typical fan.

    Wow. You're either hopelessly intellectually dishonest or profoundly stupid. In either case, continuing to deconstruct the utter nonsense you've posted would be the ultimate exercise in futility. Carry on, message board hero.

    Pedro Guerrero

  • Pedro Guerrero said...

    Wow. You're either hopelessly intellectually dishonest or profoundly stupid. In either case, continuing to deconstruct the utter nonsense you've posted would be the ultimate exercise in futility. Carry on, message board hero.

    I expected you to quit.stretcher Thanks for your concession.

    MildReTIDEation

  • Well I don't know who else would be first team OL. Of course it looks good when you have that many on first team.

    Goodness it's not that big of a deal

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    Danielle Hunter, Jamario Rasco, Anthony FREAK Johnson.. DL wrecking crew of 2013.

    Lesticals

  • Lesticals said...

    Well I don't know who else would be first team OL. Of course it looks good when you have that many on first team.

    Goodness it's not that big of a deal

    To be fair, if you look at draft boards, Fluker is considered at this point a top-3 tackle and Jones and Warmack are both considered top 5 interior linemen nationally. So it stands to reason they would be among the very best in the SEC.

    ASBamaguy

  • Michigan 22 and ND 21 in his rankings.

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    NDPhilly

  • ASBamaguy said...

    To be fair, if you look at draft boards, Fluker is considered at this point a top-3 tackle and Jones and Warmack are both considered top 5 interior linemen nationally. So it stands to reason they would be among the very best in the SEC.

    Fluker and Jones deserve first team.. I'm just not familiar with the other guy.

    Also (this isn't toward you Asbamaguy) who gives a shit if I did in fact not agree with those 3 on first team?

    Lighten up people it's an opinionated thread.

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    Lesticals

  • Lesticals said...

    Fluker and Jones deserve first team.. I'm just not familiar with the other guy.

    Also (this isn't toward you Asbamaguy) who gives a shit if I did in fact not agree with those 3 on first team?

    Lighten up people it's an opinionated thread.

    Heh heh. Now who's conceding? J/k Les..more directed toward the mildly retarded around here.

    "If 'pro' is the opposite of 'con' what is the opposite of 'progress'?" -- Paul Harvey

    awslacker

  • awslacker said...

    Heh heh. Now who's conceding? J/k Les..more directed toward the mildly retarded around here.

    I hear you man.

    I'm usually the only lsu guy on here so I have to argue with 100 bammers.

    Just glad most Bammers on here are good guys unlike Rivals.

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  • awslacker said...

    Heh heh. Now who's conceding? J/k Les..more directed toward the mildly retarded around here.

    Sometimes I argue purely for the sake of entertainment. I will get DEEP on a topic without any true feelings towards it. On slow work days, I will pick the most active topic and "get involved". The side of the argument I choose is irrelevant as long as the conversation continues.

    MildReTIDEation

  • See this thread and that Spartan thread for today's demonstrations.

    MildReTIDEation

  • MildReTIDEation said...

    See this thread and that Spartan thread for today's demonstrations.

    I'd rather find out things like this...

    There's a A Native American lake named Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg meaning: "You fish on your side, I fish on my side and no one fishes in the middle".

    Much more interesting, no?

    "If 'pro' is the opposite of 'con' what is the opposite of 'progress'?" -- Paul Harvey

    awslacker