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Phil Steele picks Florida State to win national title

  • tlhwg said...

    What was so great about the 2009 OL? We had the #1 Rushing O (see link I posted above) that was lead by Jermaine Thomas.

    I can't even put into words how hard im laughing at you right now

    And finished #1 in what ?

    Trickett's best year at FSU was 08' when FSU had the 34th best run game in america

    This post was edited by LSUNoVa97443 on 5/25/2012 at 1:49 PM

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  • LSU-NoVa said...

    I can't even put into words how hard im laughing at you right now

    If you reject S&P statistics, what do you accept?

    p.s. my personal opinion is that FSU is 1 of (approx) 4 teams that can win the title, i.e., the winner of the Pac12, SEC & B12. (Not confident that a B1G team can win a championship)

    tlhwg

  • Lulz at your link too, anything that rates a run game ranked 43rd in america #1 is not worth understanding

    That team was 7-6, sucked total ass and could not run on anybody good

    That is all i care about, not some bullshit mathmatical equation that doesn't tell the real story

    Jermaine Thomas is also top 5 most hated player ever for me, that faggot never ran the ball well at FSU unless we were playing some homo ass team that isn't even woth mentioning

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  • if they faced lsu or bama in the title game their offense couldnt do a damn thing imo

    TravisFLAx8

  • tlhwg said...

    If you reject S&P statistics, what do you accept?

    Reality

    I watch football with my own eyes and that FSU team, OL, run game... Whatever u want to call it.... That team was gay, from OL to everything else

    Calling that OL good is just stupid to me, we were 7-6

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  • FLA_Travis said...

    if they faced lsu or bama in the title game their offense couldnt do a damn thing imo

    There is no doubt about it

    We would to score on defense and ST's

    That would be the only way we coupd reach the endzone

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  • tlhwg said...

    If you reject S&P statistics, what do you accept?

    p.s. my personal opinion is that FSU is 1 of (approx) 4 teams that can win the title, i.e., the winner of the Pac12, SEC & B12. (Not confident that a B1G team can win a championship)

    Its borderline insanity that you think this FSU team could win it all

    I sure as hell have no idea what you have seen that makes you believe it

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  • LSU-NoVa said...

    Reality

    I watch football with my own eyes and that FSU team, OL, run game...

    Re *watching* games, I would substitute "appearance(s)" where you wrote "reality".

    Anyways (just to have a broader understanding of your opinions of FSU's OL, e.g., player talent, coaching abilities, etc.) where do you expect FSU's OL to rank in 2013 and 2014?

    tlhwg

  • LSU-NoVa said...

    There is no doubt about it

    We would to score on defense and ST's

    That would be the only way we coupd reach the endzone

    I honestly think you guys could get hot and get there.

    That's basically all you have to do because from there, it's who shows up that night prepared after a month. Good teams fall flat on their face all the time in the NC: LSU '11, Texas '09, OSU '06, OU '04,

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  • LSU-NoVa said...

    Its borderline insanity that you think this FSU team could win it all

    I sure as hell have no idea what you have seen that makes you believe it

    Yes, FSU had 4 losses in 2011, but only 1 (OU) was not close (read: > 7 points). FSU lost 4 games by an average of 5 points--no blowouts (see 2011 ACC champs for comparison.) And we were plagued by injuries at *every* O starter position.

    And FSU returns 18 starters, will have one of the best Ds in the country, has a 5th year Senior QB, has 7 legit WRs & has a weak schedule. Don't forget about our STs.

    This post was edited by tlhwg on 5/25/2012 at 2:18 PM

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  • tlhwg said...

    Re *watching* games, I would substitute "appearance(s)" where you wrote "reality".

    Anyways (just to have a broader understanding of your opinions of FSU's OL, e.g., player talent, coaching abilities, etc.) where do you expect FSU's OL to rank in 2013 and 2014?

    Those should be the years we actually have a great OL

    But i still need to see it to believe

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  • tlhwg said...

    Yes, FSU had 4 losses in 2011, but only 1 (OU) was not close (read: > 7 points). FSU lost 4 games by an average of 5 points--no blowouts (see 2011 ACC champs for comparison.) And we were plagued by injuries at *every* O starter position.

    And FSU returns 18 starters, will have one of the best Ds in the country, has a 5th year Senior QB, has 7 legit WRs & has a weak schedule. Don't forget about our STs.

    So what ? I never said we would suck, but we aren't national title contenders

    That isn't changing no matter what your homerish ways tell you

    This post was edited by LSUNoVa97443 on 5/25/2012 at 2:20 PM

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  • tlhwg said...

    well every OL who will see any PT at all this year all has *some* game time experience. And don't forget who our OL personnel practice against... the best DL in the country.

    I definitely don't think your doubts are unreasonable, but I'm not worried about the OL whatsoever (as long as they stay relatively healthy). I see us taking a big step forward on the OL this year. Remember how good our OL was in 2009 when it was composed of true Sophomores (Datko, Sanders, Spurlock), except the 2012 sophomores are more talented than the 2009.

    Sorry, our OL has never been all that good under Trickett. He improved it some, no doubt. Jimbo's first year was probably our best for OL, but they had tons and tons of experience. They were still small and could get manhandled at times.

    Please, for your own sake, don't get too confident about this team while Trickett is coaching the OL. You will only be disappointed. I still think we win the ACC due to weak schedule though.

    Marshall Nole

  • Alonzo Harris said...

    I honestly think you guys could get hot and get there.

    That's basically all you have to do because from there, it's who shows up that night prepared after a month. Good teams fall flat on their face all the time in the NC: LSU '11, Texas '09, OSU '06, OU '04,

    If we get there and play an LSU or Bama we would get the shit beat out of us and USCw is certainly capable of beating us down as well

    People don't realize how unproven our OL is i guess, i watch it every game and i remember how terrible it was

    We have no depth and injuries will happen, this OL can't handle any team that is elite

    You will see

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  • Yep, he's lost it.

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  • phil steele is a moron

    jbhtide

  • Marshall Nole said...

    Sorry, our OL has never been all that good under Trickett. He improved it some, no doubt. Jimbo's first year was probably our best for OL, but they had tons and tons of experience. They were still small and could get manhandled at times.

    Please, for your own sake, don't get too confident about this team while Trickett is coaching the OL. You will only be disappointed. I still think we win the ACC due to weak schedule though.

    Both Marshall Nole & LSU-NoVa, y'all have defeatists/pessimistic attitudes, which (again) isn't unreasonable given the lost decade. But you do realize that the 2012 team will be the best FSU team since at least 2004?

    tlhwg

  • rms02d said...

    With a competent OL and no injuries to key players, FSU could have easily have gone undefeated heading into the ACC championship last year.

    Almost Half of EJs 40 sacks were the result of missed assignments among a young OL. It wasn't a case of them getting physically beaten every time. With another year in the system for all the OL on the roster, it isn't impossible for the OL to drastically improve.

    So it isn't ridiculous for anybody to talk of FSU as a legit title contender given the schedule for this season.

    EJ isn't Cam Newton but he doesn't half to be when you have a elite defense, which FSU has.

    75% of Steeles MNC picks finish the season in the top 5. Obviously luck plays a key role in 1-2 games a year for any MNC team, but if Steele picks FSU, it at leasts means FSU is probably a legitimate top-5 team.

    Its amazing how shell-shocked some FSU fans have become. FSU will be very good this year, so just accept it.

    IF LSU can play in the MNC game with such an embarrassing offense, why can't FSU?

    Its not impossible.

    lol at you homers, so god damn clueless

    Shell shocked ? Get out of here bro, you are a homer and some of us aren't

    Drastically improve ? Did you watch the spring game ? Our OL is still pretty terrible and a few injuries and we are back to playing bums who aren't good at all

    We have 5 maybe 7 players who are capable of playing right now and playing average to well

    That is a pathetically low number

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  • The FSU oline was good in 2010.... other than that under Tricket ( don't care what stats say ) was pathetic.... games are won and lost in the trenches and the dline is ready and has been ready.... time for Tricket to earn that check.... oh and also I can't stand zone blocking another reason I say Tricket is on a short leash....

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  • LSU-NoVa said...

    lol at you homers, so god damn clueless

    Shell shocked ? Get out of here bro, you are a homer and some of us aren't

    Drastically improve ? Did you watch the spring game ? Our OL is still pretty terrible and a few injuries and we are back to playing bums who aren't good at all

    We have 5 maybe 7 players who are capable of playing right now and playing average to well

    That is a pathetically low number

    Just to see how much we differ, what are your predictions on the following:
    1. W/L record
    2. Which games are losses

    Yes/No:
    3. Win the Atlantic?
    4. Win the ACC?
    5. Post-season BCS bowl?

    (I already know you don't think we play in the Championship)

    tlhwg

  • ilovelamp51 said...

    Very easy schedule

    but dont they play Wake, NC State, & Clemson ? blank

    Crimson_Ghost

  • Crimson_Ghost said...

    but dont they play Wake, NC State, & Clemson ? blank

    Wake and Clemson have been bigger pains then NCSU.....

    Get your facts straight before trolling

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  • tlhwg said...

    Just to see how much we differ, what are your predictions on the following:
    1. W/L record
    2. Which games are losses

    Yes/No:
    3. Win the Atlantic?
    4. Win the ACC?
    5. Post-season BCS bowl?

    (I already know you don't think we play in the Championship)

    Still very early but i see us at 11-3

    2 regular season losses.... Don't know who to, something tells me one of the instate rivals bite us this year

    I think we win the ACC, but i thought that last year too

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  • FSUgoNoles24 said...

    The FSU oline was good in 2010.... other than that under Tricket ( don't care what stats say ) was pathetic.... games are won and lost in the trenches and the dline is ready and has been ready.... time for Tricket to earn that check.... oh and also I can't stand zone blocking another reason I say Tricket is on a short leash....

    It wasn't though, only against shit teams did they play well

    Against VT in the ACC title game we averaged 1.7 per carry and that VT team lost to JMU at home

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  • LSU-NoVa said...

    It wasn't though, only against shit teams did they play well

    Against VT in the ACC title game we averaged 1.7 per carry and that VT team lost to JMU at home

    Not debating that, but that was by far our best unit... and Hudson was the glue, he made that unit....

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