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BetterOff said...
I see your point. I just figure that in every major conference, a top level DE would at least see 2 or 3 offensive tackles that could challenge them. Sure, they would have a lot of mismatched opponents as well. It's why I always would judge player on what they did when matched with other elite talents. Of course, this season a lot of top DL talent got shoved around by Bama's OL, so maybe don't pay that much attention to that type of elite competition.
On that topic, I have never seen an OL like the one we had. 2 guys that could have been starting for a lot of NFL teams, another that could have started for a handful, and a true So LT that will probably be the best of the bunch. Our pitiful little RG never get talked about or mentioned and he'll be a mid-rounder or so next year as well.
Having said that, they make RBs look downright amazing as well, which is why although Lacy is being talked about at possibly the first RB selected now, he is still going to have a great combine to secure that position, IMO.
Bama's O-Line
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BetterOff said...
Actually doing a little research into today's NFL could help a little bit.
Top 20 QBs in passer rating
SEC 4
Big12 3
B1G 3
ACC 3
FCS 3
PAC12 2
MAC 1
MWC 1
BE 0Top 20 RBs by yards
SEC 5
Big12 3
PAC12 3
ACC 2
CUSA 2
BE 2
Indy 1
MWC 1
B1G 1Top 30 WRs by yards
ACC 6
FCS 5
Big12 5
SEC 5
B1G 3
CUSA 2
MWC 1
MAC 1
BE 1
Indy 1
PAC12 0Top 10 TE by yards
ACC 3
PAC12 2
B1G 2
SEC 1
Big12 1
BE 1Myth Busted, IMO
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
Yup, you aren't the only surprised that the Pac12 running backs avg 4.5 ypc compared to only 4.0 for the SEC in the NFL the last 2 years.
I wonder why SEC backs struggle so much in the NFL nowadays. Especially guys like Ingram and Richardson. 3.9 and 3.6 ypc just doesnt cut it.
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gamecockguy12 said...
Same reason Reggie bush sucked in NO. They are a passing team that cant run block. He averaged under 4 YPC his first three years. PAC 12 rbs aren't better prepared and neither are SEC backs. It's RB, you either have it or you don't. Easiest position to project and other than the outstanding goats, it has a lot to do with your line and passing game. I just lmao at you spending so much time coming up with crazy stats to support arguments that most people don't give two shits about. You have no life.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
Over the last 2 NFL seasons.
Taking the 12 SEC running backs with the most carries/yards.12 SEC RB's
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3,557 carries
14,505 yards
4.1 yards per carryPAC 12 RB's
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3,366 carries
15,011 yards
4.5 Yards per carryOver the last 2 NFL seasons there are only 4 SEC and 4 Pac12 running backs that
each have over 300 carries and over 1300 yards. (The best 4 from each)
SEC 4
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1,794 carries
7,434 yards
4.1 yards per carryPAC 4
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1,989 carries
9,073 yards
4.6 yards per carryThis year, of running backs who gained at least 250 yards,
only 3 SEC backs averaged as much as 4.0 yards per carry.
Ridley 4.4
Tate 4.3
Foster 4.1The rest all under 4.0 ypc
Green-Ellis 3.9, Ballard 3.9, Ingram 3.9, Moreno 3.8,
F. Jones 3.6, Richardson 3.6, Hillis 3.6, McFadden 3.3.Of RB's who gained more than 250 yards,
the PAC had 7 of 9 average 4.0 yards or more per carry
A few examples are;
Forsett 5.9, Lynch 5.0, Jones-Drew 4.8, Bush 4.3, S.Jackson 4.1.Almost half of a yard per carry better over the last 2 NFL seasons. That is a gigantic difference.
So we can put the "SEC better prepares RB's for the NFL" Hogwash to bed.Blue chip high school running backs in the south should take notice of this.
The numbers show that former Pac12 RB's are averaging a half yard per carry more than their SEC counterparts in the NFL, which means in the coming years, NFL teams will continue to draft what has been successful,
and more and more will draft Pac12 running backs.So, elite RB's, come on out to the west coast and increase your chances of big time NFL success.
This post was edited by gamecockguy12 on 1/11/2013 at 10:12 AM
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Jos Mit said...
Without looking at the numbers i would have to say look at YAC. There will be a difference between the pac-12 RBs and the SEC RBs, that will help people understand the difference in the YPC numbers. The SEC is better fitted for big backs, while the pac-12 is better fitted for scat backs with high end speed. Therefore you will see a higher YPC from Pac-12 RBs, but SEC RBs will have better YAC. Depending on the system (Ingram), Oline, and being the only legit playmaker on your team (Richardson) all come into play. Bigger RBs will choose to play in the SEC because of the style of play. The NFL will draft a RB by his style of play, and if he fits their system. They sometimes fail to do that and pick Ingram to run behind a pass blocking Oline. Its not about which one prepares you more, its about what system you think you may fit in better. And if you look at our RBs you will see the type we like, big, physical, combined with being a rare athlete (Richardson, Ingram, Coffee, Lacy, Yeldon, Fowler, Jones, Henry, Tenpenny, Drake). There are exception as we may see next year with Dee Hart, but as we have seen he has not seen the field very much and mainly due to injuries.
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Playing in the SEC or Pac12 better prepares RB's for the NFL ?