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  • SimplyComplex said...

    She is fat. Don't have to tell me, lol. She has hip problems. She collapsed one day and couldn't walk for a couple hours.

    How old is she?

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  • R.A.T.T. said...

    You might really want to look at that. What are you doing to fix it? I rarely take my dogs to the vet anymore because it's overpriced BS. I honestly mean that. If you go to Tractor Supply Co. you can get exactly what the vets give your dogs for about 20% of the price. My wife's sister is a vet from out of state but she told me that her office buys their stuff from Tractor Supply Co.

    If your dog has worms go in and get you a $40 bottle of Ivermectin. Your probably going to need a little more than that and need to see a vet for heartworms but that is the best worm prevention medicine you can get. Look at the active ingredient on the heartworm box that will cost you $80 for six months for a dog your size. The $40 bottle of straight Ivermectin will last you damn near three years if you don't let air get to it for half the price and is more potent than the shit the vet sells you. It also works on any other type of worms your dog can get.

    Also for others that are struggling to provide the shots for their dogs or whatnot because the vet will charge you $50 just to check your dogs heartbeat and clip their nails, Tractor Supply also sells all the shots you need. Now that I breed them I have found this will save you hundreds per dog if you keep them. First shot is a 5-1 shot and the next three given in three week integrals will be 7-1 shots. After that you can take them to the vet to get a rabies shot that will cost around $16 if you tell them to skip the physical. All they do is check your dogs pulse, clip their nails and weigh them. They charge you serious money for that.

    P.S. The ivermectin will say it's for cattle and swine but it doesn't take much. It will also come in a package that will make you think your supposed to inject them with it but don't do it with dogs. All you have to do is literally give them, depending on weight, about 0.2 mL a month and you won't have worm issues. If you go over it's really not a huge deal. Pits and Bull Staff's inherently have issues with mange and I have had to give them over 1 mL or more a day for over a month so it's not going to kill them. There are a couple of breeds that don't do well with Ivermecting but can't remember them so check that out as well. I believe they are the Lassie type dogs but don't quote me on that.

    Will it work if he already has the worms in him though?

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  • What did you get right?
    -You do need to see a vet for heartworms
    -Ivermectin is the best medicine for worms. Its a very good medicine for worms, but the best, that's debatable and depends on the type of worm that is the issue.
    -don't inject ivermectin
    -don't give ivermectin to Lassie type dogs

    Thats about the extent of it

    bamadvm

  • theFightingtide said...

    Will it work if he already has the worms in him though?

    It would be part of what the vet would have to give you to clear up the heartworms. Regular worms would bite the dust on Ivermectin but heartworms are tricky. I haven't had a dog get them in over a decade. Your probably looking at a stout antibiotic and one or two more prescriptions as well for heartworms. I hate to tell you that but it's probably a fix that will take a few months and a grand if not more to clear up.

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  • R.A.T.T. said...

    How old is she?

    9. She has hip dysplasia.

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  • R.A.T.T. said...

    It would be part of what the vet would have to give you to clear up the heartworms. Regular worms would bite the dust on Ivermectin but heartworms are tricky. I haven't had a dog get them in over a decade. Your probably looking at a stout antibiotic and one or two more prescriptions as well for heartworms. I hate to tell you that but it's probably a fix that will take a few months and a grand if not more to clear up.

    Please stop. You are gunna cause someone to kill their dog.

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  • bamadvm said...

    What did you get right? -You do need to see a vet for heartworms -Ivermectin is the best medicine for worms. Its a very good medicine for worms, but the best, that's debatable and depends on the type of worm that is the issue. -don't inject ivermectin -don't give ivermectin to Lassie type dogs

    Thats about the extent of it

    I said that I got my dogs checked for heartworms when they get their rabies shot annually

    Outside of heartworms what type of worms won't Ivermectin take care of? Would love to hear this one.

    I do not inject ivermectin into my dogs. I actually put it in the syringes that they give you to feed it to them orally. That one came straight from a vet hoss. Actually got the syringes when one of my dogs got mange and he treated the dog with oral implementation of the ivermectin daily.

    I stated that I wasn't sure of the breed that Ivermectin is really bad for but there are a couple. Of course you could look it up if you don't believe me.

    Anything else?

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  • R.A.T.T. said...

    I said that I got my dogs checked for heartworms when they get their rabies shot annually

    Outside of heartworms what type of worms won't Ivermectin take care of? Would love to hear this one.

    I do not inject ivermectin into my dogs. I actually put it in the syringes that they give you to feed it to them orally. That one came straight from a vet hoss. Actually got the syringes when one of my dogs got mange and he treated the dog with oral implementation of the ivermectin daily.

    I stated that I wasn't sure of the breed that Ivermectin is really bad for but there are a couple. Of course you could look it up if you don't believe me.

    Anything else?

    I think you misread my post. Those were the things you got right not wrong.

    bamadvm

  • bamadvm said...

    Please stop. You are gunna cause someone to kill their dog.

    Go fvck yourself. You like talking like I don't know anything but this comes straight from my sisters wife who is also a vet. I'm assuming that your one as well and pissed that I'm telling someone that Ivermectin is good for worms. Shocker!!!!!!

    Let me guess? You don't give your puppies 5-1, then 7-1 shots three times in a twelve week process once every three weeks do you? I would say after 30 or so dogs being fully healthy and a vet as a sister in law giving me the thumbs up would prove I'm not completely retarded. Keep ripping people off though.

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  • bamadvm said...

    I think you misread my post. Those were the things you got right not wrong.

    What else did I say other than getting 5-1 or 7-1 shots from Tractor Supply? Don't lie because it's the same damn thing vets use.

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  • SimplyComplex said...

    9. She has hip dysplasia.

    I'm sorry to hear that. Those are the hip problems that I've heard are real bad in English Bulldogs I was discussing with the guy earlier. Actually there are several large breed dogs with that problem sadly. I hope she isn't in a lot of pain.

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  • Hskr4Life23 said...

    those of you with English bulldogs, have you had any medical issues? I want an English Bulldog, but I keep reading that the medical costs of them are just outrageous, and since I'm still a student I can't afford to have a dog in and out of the vet.

    They have very bad heart issues

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  • R.A.T.T. said...

    I'm sorry to hear that. Those are the hip problems that I've heard are real bad in English Bulldogs I was discussing with the guy earlier. Actually there are several large breed dogs with that problem sadly. I hope she isn't in a lot of pain.

    Thanks for the wishes. She isn't it that much pain, but she struggles and limps when she runs. I just hope she goes peacefully. Hate to see her in pain.

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  • SimplyComplex said...

    Thanks for the wishes. She isn't it that much pain, but she struggles and limps when she runs. I just hope she goes peacefully. Hate to see her in pain.

    I don't want to touch on a hot button issue, and as long as she's not in real pain it's not that bad, but would you put her down if it got real bad? Again before the dvm over here wants to talk smack for the sake of talking it, I'm not real familiar with hip dysplasia in dogs. I've heard it only gets worse though. I wish your dog the best all the same and hope she lives the next few years relatively peacefully.

    Have they put her on any type of painkillers?

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  • R.A.T.T. said...

    Go fvck yourself. You like talking like I don't know anything but this comes straight from my sisters wife who is also a vet. I'm assuming that your one as well and pissed that I'm telling someone that Ivermectin is good for worms. Shocker!!!!!!

    Let me guess? You don't give your puppies 5-1, then 7-1 shots three times in a twelve week process once every three weeks do you? I would say after 30 or so dogs being fully healthy and a vet as a sister in law giving me the thumbs up would prove I'm not completely retarded. Keep ripping people off though.

    You are making ivermectin out to be a much safer drug than it is. There are literally tons of toxicity cases out there from people just like you that took it on themselves to dose their dogs with ivermectin. "Lassie dog's" are hypersensitive to ivermectin but so are australian shepherds, whippets, some spaniels, etc... Ivermectin also is dosed in several different concentrations so .2mls per dog isn't always the same depending on the formulation. Also no studies have been done on large animal formulation ivermectin on the prevention of heartworms. Ivermectin clears the body in approximately two days when formulated in that manner.

    "Your probably looking at a stout antibiotic and one or two more prescriptions as well for heartworms."- there is only one drug that can kill adult heart worms and that is melarsamine. That is not a really stout antibiotic.

    I do give puppy shots in 3 week intervals not integrals.

    Why is it that the most ignorant are often the most vocal.

    bamadvm

  • SimplyComplex said...

    Thanks for the wishes. She isn't it that much pain, but she struggles and limps when she runs. I just hope she goes peacefully. Hate to see her in pain.

    to cheer up this thread a bit ....

    that sounds like my girlfriend . cheers

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  • R.A.T.T. said...

    I don't want to touch on a hot button issue, and as long as she's not in real pain it's not that bad, but would you put her down if it got real bad? Again before the dvm over here wants to talk smack for the sake of talking it, I'm not real familiar with hip dysplasia in dogs. I've heard it only gets worse though. I wish your dog the best all the same and hope she lives the next few years relatively peacefully.

    Have they put her on any type of painkillers?

    No you're fine. I actually had to put down my coherent dogs puppies a few years back. He would take stuff (hats, gloves, toys etc.) and take them behind the coach and would growl, snarl, and bite people who tried to take it from him. My mom was about to give birth to my sister and we didn't want the dog to bite the baby, so we had to put him down.

    If things get real bad, I'd like to put her down just to save her the suffering.

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  • Crimson_Ghost said...

    to cheer up this thread a bit ....

    that sounds like my girlfriend . cheers

    Haha, great one. +1

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  • SimplyComplex said...

    Thanks for the wishes. She isn't it that much pain, but she struggles and limps when she runs. I just hope she goes peacefully. Hate to see her in pain.

    If she isn't in much pain now may be the ideal time to do something about it. I would try some omega-3 vitamins/fish oil(you can get a bottle that will last you for 4-6 months for $10-15) and some glucosamine/chondroitin tablets which you can get OTC (just call your vet and I'm sure they will help you figure out the dosage).

    Adequan would probably be the absolute best treatment you could do at this time but it is expensive. It basically acts in a similar manner to chondroitin but it is more effective. It will allow the joint to reform cartilage where damaged and will improve the joint fluids ability to act as a lubricant. Who knows, maybe you have a tractor store near you that has a sale for it I'm sure its legit.

    bamadvm

  • bamadvm said...

    You are making ivermectin out to be a much safer drug than it is. There are literally tons of toxicity cases out there from people just like you that took it on themselves to dose their dogs with ivermectin. "Lassie dog's" are hypersensitive to ivermectin but so are australian shepherds, whippets, some spaniels, etc... Ivermectin also is dosed in several different concentrations so .2mls per dog isn't always the same depending on the formulation. Also no studies have been done on large animal formulation ivermectin on the prevention of heartworms. Ivermectin clears the body in approximately two days when formulated in that manner.

    "Your probably looking at a stout antibiotic and one or two more prescriptions as well for heartworms."- there is only one drug that can kill adult heart worms and that is melarsamine. That is not a really stout antibiotic.

    I do give puppy shots in 3 week intervals not integrals.

    Why is it that the most ignorant are often the most vocal.

    Actually I stated that Ivermectin dosing was based on weight and that there were "several" breeds that were suspect to it's use and that it needed to be looked up. Also Tractor Supply Co. (at least the one were I get it) only sells the 1% sterile solution which is exactly what the vets prescribe. I also stated that the only reason that I ever gave my dog the large dose daily was straight from a vets mouth and it was for the treatment of mange and not worms. I want to say that for worm treatment (in dogs that can handle invermectin) it's somewhere around 0.1 ml per 20 lbs or so a MONTH. During the two dogs I had with mange (demodectic) I had to give them 1.5 mL per day but they were big dogs. I don't understand how you get pissy for me saying "lassie" breeds but then following it up with "there are several more breeds" in the same fvcking statement.

    I also said that the stout antibiotic and a couple of medicines were in my experience (which is limited) but that the guy HAD to get adviced from a licensed vet when it came to heartworms. Simple worms are one thing and I have no idea what to do with heartworms. Hence my telling him he had to go to a vet for that.

    Thanks for letting me know that it was interval and not integral though. Maybe read what is being posted before you jump on someone's ass for being ignorant. If you would have just read the damn posts you would get exactly what I just posted AGAIN.

    This post was edited by RATT on 2/15/2012 at 10:26 PM

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  • This post was edited by CR Tider on 2/15/2012 at 10:17 PM

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  • SimplyComplex said...

    Haha, great one. +1

    Man I really wish your dog the best. I'm sure dvm really does know what he's talking about so I would take his advice when it comes to the hip dysplasia. I've heard those vitamins for joint pain can do wonders but I've never had a dog with the problem so I wouldn't know. It certainly makes sense and I'm sure he does know more about that than I do.

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  • R.A.T.T. said...

    Man I really wish your dog the best. I'm sure dvm really does know what he's talking about so I would take his advice when it comes to the hip dysplasia. I've heard those vitamins for joint pain can do wonders but I've never had a dog with the problem so I wouldn't know. It certainly makes sense and I'm sure he does know more about that than I do.

    Thank you. I'll have to try them out. She's doing fine now. She's just had some incidents where she has collapsed or just can't flat out move.

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  • A link for some of the breeds that Ivermectin is NOT good for.

    Ivermectin Toxicity in Dogs | eHow.com

    Ivermectin Toxicity in Dogs. Ivermectin is used as a de-womer, a heartworm preventive and a treatment for infections and mites. It appears in medications such as Ivomec, Heartgard and Heartgard Plus, and Milbemycin. Although a relatively safe medication, some dogs and some breeds are sensitive to it and toxicity can occur which can lead to death if...

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