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Premier positions in College football

  • #1. without a doubt and no homer, #1 has to be the starting QB at USC. Every starting QB sans 1 this millennium was taken in the 1st round, the one who wasn't was taken in the 5th round.

    Starting RB at Alabama. In back to back drafts the first RB taken, was the former starter at Bama.

    OT at USC. In back to back drafts the first linemen taken was a tackle out of USC. Also the 2 starting LT's prior to this were both drafted in the 2nd round.

    corner at LSU. Back to back drafts LSU's top cover man was the first DB taken in the NFL draft.

    Want to put TE at Miami, but I think we are too far removed from Shockey, and Private Winslow

    QB at Michigan, though Rich Rod screwed this up, but Hoke should have it back.

    Other positions just from a purely recruiting perpsective:

    RB/WR hybrid at USC, ie the next Reggie Bush

    RB/WR hybrid in Urban's offense, ie the next Percey Harvin

    Jack Linebacker at Bama.

    Tazer position at Oregon

    QB at Notre Dame used to be considered the #1 premier position in all of college football, but those days are long gone.

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  • lb at bama, imo, not just jack.

    and this goes back a ways. lee roy jordan, woodrow lowe, barry kraus, cornelius bennett, derrick thomas are all still well recognized studs from the 60's to late 80's. hell even in the 90's you have dwayne rudd and keith mccants went top 5 in the draft and was an AA before sucking in the nfl at de and then ruining his life with drugs.

    then you have the new crop, starting with demeco ryans, then mcclain, and now hightower, and upshaw.

    and the roster is stacked with talent at lb, so i expect some more in the next few years.

    for oline, wisky needs to be mentioned. they've had a 1st rounder each of last 2 drafts, and had 5 total oline drafted last 2 years, 4 in early rds (top3).

    theharbinater

  • LB at PSU and DL at PSU for sure and I'd say that TE at PSU is going to become a premier position with O'Brien.

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    LB at PSU and DL at PSU for sure and I'd say that TE at PSU is going to become a premier position with O'Brien.

    USC, Bama, and Miami have put out a better crop of LB'ers the past 10 years than Penn St.

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  • So has FSU imo

    Certainly had more LB's drafted than Penn St these last 10 years

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    USC, Bama, and Miami have put out a better crop of LB'ers the past 10 years than Penn St.

    Maybe so, but PSU has produced many great linebackers and continues to do so and it is definitely a premier position. If a LB has talent and goes to PSU you can almost guarantee he will get drafted.

    I'd say Bowman, Hali, Wake, Lee, Connor and Posluzsny is a pretty good group of LB's the past few years.

    This post was edited by MZizzle2 on 5/30/2012 at 12:05 PM

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    #1 has to be the starting QB at USC. .

    This is the only position that isn't even up for debate. The starting QB at USC is the hottest ticket in the NCAA.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    USC, Bama, and Miami have put out a better crop of LB'ers the past 10 years than Penn St.

    i don't think this is mutually exclusive, though.

    it can mean a lot for both schools. and psu certainly has a strong historical reputation for lb's.

    theharbinater

  • theharbinater said...

    i don't think this is mutually exclusive, though.

    it can mean a lot for both schools. and psu certainly has a strong historical reputation for lb's.

    Yes, but it is more history, and less a current trend. You don't see the elite nationally ranked LB'ers all rushing to get into Penn St.

    This is why I left Wisconsin off my list, they develop O-linemen really well, but usually are pulling Nationally elite Linemen into their school over a USC, Stanford, Alabama, etc....

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  • I'd remove the USC Reggie Bush role - I can't really think of anyone at USC that mimicked his style or success. I'd add USC WR to that list instead - so many 1st round picks under Carroll - Smith, Williams, Jarrett and the greats like Keyshawn, Swann, Conway.

    I'd also pine for CB at Michigan due to the legacy of Woodson. Also had some other greats fill that position until recently - Law, Jackson, Hall.

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  • OL used to be a pipeline. Just about every position was tarnished by the Callahan era here, but that and DL is coming back.

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  • UMPat said...

    I'd remove the USC Reggie Bush role - I can't really think of anyone at USC that mimicked his style or success. I'd add USC WR to that list instead - so many 1st round picks under Carroll - Smith, Williams, Jarrett and the greats like Keyshawn, Swann, Conway.

    I'd also pine for CB at Michigan due to the legacy of Woodson. Also had some other greats fill that position until recently - Law, Jackson, Hall.

    nobody has duplicated his success, and that is why I put that under a recruiting perspective. They still tell players they could be the next Reggie Bush (on the field only of course). It used to be ridiculous how many prospects that they would tell that too. Not as much anymore, but still there.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    They still tell players they could be the next Reggie Bush (on the field only of course).

    maybe that's the problem. biggrin

    theharbinater

  • LSU-NoVa said...

    So has FSU imo

    Certainly had more LB's drafted than Penn St these last 10 years

    True. Give PSU some credit though here. You send the the level of talented players FSU, USC, Bama, and Miami have gotten and people would be talking more about Penn St's linebackers than they already do.

    They develop good LBs.

    reservemickey

  • DBs recently.

    And DL as usual.. Had someone off the DL drafted every year for 12 straight years.

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  • reservemickey said...

    True. Give PSU some credit though here. You send the the level of talented players FSU, USC, Bama, and Miami have gotten and people would be talking more about Penn St's linebackers than they already do.

    They develop good LBs.

    I am not attempting to disparage the proud heritage of Penn St linebackers. Just looking at things in a more condensed setting.

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  • reservemickey said...

    True. Give PSU some credit though here. You send the the level of talented players FSU, USC, Bama, and Miami have gotten and people would be talking more about Penn St's linebackers than they already do.

    They develop good LBs.

    Exactly

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    #1. without a doubt and no homer, #1 has to be the starting QB at USC. Every starting QB sans 1 this millennium was taken in the 1st round, the one who wasn't was taken in the 5th round.

    Starting RB at Alabama. In back to back drafts the first RB taken, was the former starter at Bama.

    OT at USC. In back to back drafts the first linemen taken was a tackle out of USC. Also the 2 starting LT's prior to this were both drafted in the 2nd round.

    corner at LSU. Back to back drafts LSU's top cover man was the first DB taken in the NFL draft.

    Want to put TE at Miami, but I think we are too far removed from Shockey, and Private Winslow

    QB at Michigan, though Rich Rod screwed this up, but Hoke should have it back.

    Other positions just from a purely recruiting perpsective:

    RB/WR hybrid at USC, ie the next Reggie Bush

    RB/WR hybrid in Urban's offense, ie the next Percey Harvin

    Jack Linebacker at Bama.

    Tazer position at Oregon

    QB at Notre Dame used to be considered the #1 premier position in all of college football, but those days are long gone.

    you forgot Jimmy Graham from Miami.... so Miami is def still TE U

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    I am not attempting to disparage the proud heritage of Penn St linebackers. Just looking at things in a more condensed setting.

    Give me your list of good Bama, Miami. USC, and FSU linebackers in the league right now

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Yes, but it is more history, and less a current trend. You don't see the elite nationally ranked LB'ers all rushing to get into Penn St.

    This is why I left Wisconsin off my list, they develop O-linemen really well, but usually are pulling Nationally elite Linemen into their school over a USC, Stanford, Alabama, etc....

    Two years ago we had the following LBs based on stars:

    G. Hodges - 4 star
    K. Fortt - 4 star
    M. Mauti - 4 star
    B. Gbadyu - 4 star
    D. Royer - 4 star
    M. Yancich - 4 star
    N. Stupar - 4 star
    G. Carson - 4 star
    M. Hull - 4 star
    C. Colasanti - 4 star
    Also we had FB M. Zordich, 4 star, who was originally a LB

    Only Colasanti and Gbadyu are no longer on the team.

    When you add the great NFL players like Poz, Bowman, Lee, Wake and Hali, and add the fact that PSU had the most amount of LBs in the NFL on active rosters last year, I don't know how you could say that we are down at the position.

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    Give me your list of good Bama, Miami. USC, and FSU linebackers in the league right now

    USC: Clay Mathews, Brian Cushing, Rey Mauluga, Kaluka Maiava, Keith Rivers, Recently retired Willie McGinest, and the late Junior Seau. Just drafted in the 1st round Nick Perry.

    Miami: Ray Lewis, DJ Williams, Jonathan Vilma, Colin McCarthey. Just drafted in the 3rd round Sean Spence

    Bama is more up and coming, and I never really mentioned FSU though of course they have had some great one's.

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  • LBU is Bama. Historically and presently. PSU coined it without the talent to back it up.

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    Two years ago we had the following LBs based on stars:

    G. Hodges - 4 star K. Fortt - 4 star M. Mauti - 4 star B. Gbadyu - 4 star D. Royer - 4 star M. Yancich - 4 star N. Stupar - 4 star G. Carson - 4 star M. Hull - 4 star C. Colasanti - 4 star Also we had FB M. Zordich, 4 star, who was originally a LB

    Only Colasanti and Gbadyu are no longer on the team.

    When you add the great NFL players like Poz, Bowman, Lee, Wake and Hali, and add the fact that PSU had the most amount of LBs in the NFL on active rosters last year, I don't know how you could say that we are down at the position.

    None of those guys are those elite impact LInebackers though. No Manti Teo's or Vontaze Burfit types. Most are regional kids, it is not like Penn St is a destination for a star backer out of CA, Tx, or Florida. Even the regional star this year, Jaylon Smith is not considering Penn St.

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  • Theta Sigma said...

    LBU is Bama. Historically and presently. PSU coined it without the talent to back it up.

    USC and Miami are both great than Bama currently. As far as how these guys perform at the highest level (NFL). Bama is on their way to that status, but not there yet.

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