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i love it when bible "scholars" ignorantly argue invalid points.

christ says to worry ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS... to worry about what is going on in your life...by saying that, do not worry about the speck in your neighbor's eye, as well as he who is without sin... as well as all the rest...

here's what you do, then, since you and all you "christians" wanna tell everyone else what to do, find me where christ says to go force your views on everyone else?

i will be waiting a long time

you "christians" want to be in control of everyone else's morality.

YES THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO MARRY. YOU CANNOT DECIDE WHO DOES AND WHO DOESN'T

seriously, most of us hate christians because of shit like this... you all are worried about everyone else while you all let your own church rot in the hypocrisy of your rightness...

christ was concerned only with the church. his only concern was to make the church, and the church being holy and etc. make his concern your own. i thought you people would usher in the end of the world, you know, since you are saved and all...

I've always wondered this: If homosexuality is a sin and you manage to prevent a gay person from engaging in any homosexual activity are they free of sin? In their minds they are still gay but they're not being with members of the same sex. I subscribe to the school that you can't save someone from themselves, you can't force them to change or be like you. That's something that comes from within. And quite frankly, I see no reason to ask these people to change.

i believe it is a sin.

i believe homosexuality is a sin. but why should i be worried about it? the bible does not tell me to pass laws to stop people from sinning. Christ, in all of his teachings, tells us that he wants us to BE FREE from sin... he wants us to love our wives so much that we would not even LOOK at another woman with lust and all... his teaching deals with us on a personal level and with us as a church.

NOWHERE does he talk about how we should rule the earth with our morality. ignorant, squawky christians that are all worried about everyone else's problems and not worried about themselves. CHrist says in the bible that as a man i should love god, love my neighbor, and love my wife and family. he also tells me if i make the secks with a man, it is a sin. BUT SO IS HAVING IMPURE THOUGHTS...

christians love to just pick and choose what they find is sin, because they feel like they know what;'s right. churches being politically active is not even biblically based.

each person has enough stuff to worry about on their own, much less anyone else... well, each person but goodnews. he is without sin, right?

that's what i was saying...

i love how people all wish for what the founding fathers "wanted" or "meant"

well, they were all rich white guys, who wanted all the wealth for themselves, so check...

agreed

Hey Dick . Its not only the Christians that are keeping the gays from marrying each other its the LAW ; you have to know that there are people that arent Christians that maybe dont believe in a GOD that dont believe that gay marriage is right either . How did this become a Christian bashing session when we are talking about gay marriage and the legality of it . period . Why i personally dont think that it should be legalized is my business not yours - i dont have to explain myself to anyone let alone you . By the way if there are bible scholars on this board they wouldnt be involved with posts like this b/c it would be to easy to get upset about somebody attacking them b/c of their religious beliefs . I am not telling anyone what to do much less you but it doesnt mean i dont feel a certain way about issues as i am sure you do as well . President Obama is not a man i would support in any way . period ; it doesnt mean the guy is a bad guy or even wrong it just means that his views are contrary to mine . If you like the man or gay marriage .GREAT , support them , scream it out to whomever will listen but please leave the poor Christian bashing to someone that knows what the heck they are talking about

Every person I know that doesn't want gay marriage is Christian. Every person I know that want to see it include both atheists and religious people(including Christians),

Then you must not know any Hasidic Jews or Muslims. But really, what point are you making?

Didn't the Pilgrim's flee England because they thought a certain religion was too prevalent in government and they thought they were not getting the freedom they deserved?
Have we come full circle?

The rights and wrongs we have decided over human history have changed and have been decided by human beings alone. Through trial by error, we've accumulated some rights and wrongs that haven't changed much. Truth can be subjective, especially truths derived from an entity that can't be proven to be true in it's own right.

I had a roommate that was a trust fund baby and was a very religious person. We had a few discussions and he believed that God was all knowing and all powerful, placing everything in your life for a reason. Every person did everything according to a master plan. I was put in his life to question his faith and make it stronger.
His relatives were Jewish. I held back until he started complaining about me keeping a car in his driveway for 3 weeks waiting to be fixed by my friend who owed me over a $2,000 in court costs and lawyer fees and was down on his luck. He had no way of repaying me with money. I had a friend loaning me a car I could drive to work while my car needed fixing who understood that I was letting my friend fix my car. One night, my trust fund baby roommate complained about my car that wasn't fixed being in his driveway and said I needed to rely on myself for my problems while his parents basically paid for everything. I started up the debate again and said that if everything is according to God's plan, then Hitler was just following God's plan and the Holocaust was all according to God's plan. His mind got blown and he dropped it.

The Bible has influenced all our laws and foundational documents. Most other religions are pro-traditional marriage. Still, your right that we shouldn't impose our beliefs on others' All i've ever said is that I have a right to be against gay-marriage, and that doesn't make me a bigot.

Not sure you're correct there