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Ramifications of secession movement in Texas

  • Ego Trip said...

    Everyone that signs a petition should get banished to a deserted island.

    Here you go!

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-everyone-signed-petition-deport-everyone-signed-petition-withdraw-their-state-usa/GxpFk43q?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl

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  • devidee said...

    This...

    So lose the state of Texas, but gain the State of Austin? I could live with that.

    We are both atheists. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours

    OmegaBuckeye

  • Landohusker said...

    I will move to Texas if they seceed.

    Yes sir .... I'll second that

    Man_A _War

  • kitemac said...

    OU seems like they would probably be hurt the worst outside of Texas in recruiting.

    The fear of this happening must be why Stoops is going National with recruiting and slowing down in Texas...lol

    oufisherman

  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Oklahoma fans would have to go through customs every year for the Red River Rivalry.

    What if Mexico invaded? Would the U.S. help or be pissed and not help?

    Remember the Alamo...dome?

    Pretty sure most OU fans live in Texas, I do...lol

    oufisherman

  • Stouds1 said...

    Here you go!

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-everyone-signed-petition-deport-everyone-signed-petition-withdraw-their-state-usa/GxpFk43q?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl

    I think that is for your pea brained desire. I love Old Glory.

    Ego Trip

  • How long after Texas secession can we label them a 3rd world country?

    Jack Passion

  • Jack Passion said...

    How long after Texas secession can we label them a 3rd world country?

    9 Months. Thats about how long it will take them to crumble.

    ShanePitt3

  • ShanePitt3 said...

    9 Months. Thats about how long it will take them to crumble.

    I would give it a couple years, but yeah, it'll be a quick decline.

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  • OmegaBuckeye said...

    So lose the state of Texas, but gain the State of Austin? I could live with that.

    I would love that. Best possible outcome.

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  • Basically, this article lays out the major reasons why Texas would crash and burn if it tried to secede.

    Let the South secede

    Let the South secede. If Texas wants to go, let it -- but make sure it pays us back the billions it took from us first.

    americablog.com
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  • CMXI said...

    I would give it a couple years, but yeah, it'll be a quick decline.

    Do you honestly think that? Forget about us being on tBB. Serious discussion: I think Texas would do extremely well.

    They could establish energy independence, food independence. Fresh water will be a colossal issue for everyone within 25 years but they'd have coastline for de-salinization.

    Anyone saying they'd get overrun with liberal minded hispanics is not wise. They'd straight up build a wall and likely make everyone prove English literacy within a year of immigrating or something like that and basically liberal ideas would just be outlawed. Liberals would call that everything shy of a new form of Cuba but it is the way it is.

    Thoughts? I am just going to respond to you.

    fsufsu

  • Ok, just saw the link. Would still like to hear your account.

    fsufsu

  • TroyTide said...

    No I am not, I do have to live here you know and I graduate in a year. But it will happen...just watch.

    Aha!

    Another well informed voter following the masses of the informed college students that don't even have a clue of what happens after college.

    You are at Alabama which makes you a Republican. If you were at Oregon, you'd be a Democrat.

    Not speaking just to you, but to all college students.

    BetterOff ●

  • JC Shurburtt said...

    OK, so I voted for Romney this time. I voted Obama last time and Kerry and Gore before that. I'm as independent as they come.

    But this type of crap just shows you how both parties do nothing but grandstand just to get re-elected.

    So ok we have serious issues right now. Rick Perry go make an ambiguous statement neither supporting nor completely condemning a nut job.

    Same reason Obama was re-elected- let's paint Romney as some money grubbing miser that would just as soon take a leak on a poor person as give him a dollar for soup. Everybody buys it because everybody is broke.

    Reagan and Clinton were the two best presidents during my lifetime because they went to work for the good of the country every day. I think George W. Bush, though I never voted for him, did the best he could given some challenging decisions he had to make. Not saying they were the right ones, mind you, but he acted on what he thought was right.

    The rest of these clowns, including Bohener the Suntan Man, Harry Reid and his nude Cowboy art festival, Mitch I am a Turkey personified McConnell and everybody's favorite liberal gal Nancy Pelosi are some if the most spineless, self-absorbed, ridiculous, cartoon-like leaders in the history of our country. They are nothing but power-hungry ideologues whose sole purpose is to get re-elected.

    That's not to mention the legions of wharf rats that make up the staffs and advisors for our so-called leaders.

    For example, I don't think Barack Obama hates white people and is out there waiting to cry racism at every turn (even though race relations are infinitely better than they ever have been)...but Eric Holder is!

    Same thing with John Ashcroft and his crusade against nude statues in the W years.

    We need to get back to leadership and we need to start electing smart people. Likewise we need those smart people to appoint and elect (like for House speaker, etc.) smart people.

    Otherwise this country is going to continue its decline regardless of what the American people want because we are going to continue to be given two horrible choices. The most electable will continue to be favored over the "best leader".

    Anyway, I just cover college football recruiting. What do I know? I will say I still believe in this country and believe in the American dream because I've lived it to date. I hope to continue to and hope future generations can as well. I think if we start electing leaders rather than politicians, that dream will stay alive.

    God bless you all and may God bless the United States of America.

    I'm going to make a radical suggestion. I'm certain it will get flamed. The US needs to pay its elected officials more.

    There are really smart people in this country who could do great things on Washington, but most can't be distracted from their own self interests because of the drastic reduction in pay they'd be taking. The president of the United States has a salary of $400,000 per year. Do people not think this job is worth more than that? It is essentially the most important job in the world, and he makes about 1/40th what the worst commissioner in professional sports makes.

    Yes, I realize there are ancillary benefits, but I still think the job is not attractive to the right type of leader.

    EarshotCock ●

  • JC Shurburtt said...

    I guess the Lomghorn Network would be a nationwide channel at that point.

    not really...

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  • BetterOff said...

    Aha!

    Another well informed voter following the masses of the informed college students that don't even have a clue of what happens after college.

    Not speaking just to you, but to all college students.

    I think you meant to quote BLF.

    This post was edited by Clemson on 11/15/2012 at 7:01 AM

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  • TroyTide said...

    If the economy is better in four years I will reevaluate my economic and political opinions regarding economics. But unfortunately it won't be. Liberals don't understand money...at all.

    I ma not glued to an ideology just like it is a religion and I have changed my mind many times in the past and likely will again. But when it comes to economics it's just not something the left understands. So I have little hope.

    let's all ask the country's best economist, Allen Greenspan, how much he understands economics...

    ALAN GREENSPAN: Well, remember that what an ideology is, is a conceptual framework with the way people deal with reality. Everyone has one. You have to -- to exist, you need an ideology. The question is whether it is accurate or not.

    And what I'm saying to you is, yes, I found a flaw. I don't know how significant or permanent it is, but I've been very distressed by that fact.

    REP. HENRY WAXMAN: You found a flaw in the reality...

    ALAN GREENSPAN: Flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works, so to speak.

    REP. HENRY WAXMAN: In other words, you found that your view of the world, your ideology, was not right, it was not working?

    ALAN GREENSPAN: That is -- precisely. No, that's precisely the reason I was shocked, because I had been going for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well.

    hmmm... so, the country's top economist has a fundamental flaw in his ideology? shooot... well, Al, what was this flaw?

    And, Mr. Chairman, I know -- I agree with you in the fact that there were a lot of people who raised issues about problems emerging, but there are always a lot of people raising issues, and half the time they're wrong. And the question is, what do you do?

    I mean, you point out quite correctly that the Federal Reserve had as good an economic organization as exists, and I would say, in the world. If all those extraordinarily capable people were unable to foresee the development of this critical problem, which undoubtedly was the cause of the world problem with respect to mortgage-backed securities, I have to -- I think we have to ask ourselves, why is that?

    And the answer is that we're not smart enough as people. We just cannot see events that far in advance. And unless we can, it's very difficult to look back and say, why didn't we catch something?

    well, damn... that's crazy, Al...

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  • Clemson said...

    I think you meant to quote BLF.

    Nah. He wouldn't fit under that category. He would fit into the category of a college student from a prodominanat Republican school that went to a music festival and came back a Democrat.

    I was mainly pointing that most college students are dependants and really don't quite understand the cause and effects of politics on the economy and in the business forum.

    They are easily swayed to one side or the other based on what they feel is "cool" or based off prejudice notions from friends and family. I for one much like many of my college friends have done complete 180s on our views since the days of fraternity houses and circus traveling days of following the music scene.

    BetterOff ●

  • so you know...

    good ole peter schiff wants you to read this:

    Peter Schiff: Market-Crushing Treasury Collapse To Hit Around 2013 - Forbes

    Peter Schiff, who accurately predicted the 2008-9 financial crisis, expects artificially low interest rates to exacerbate massive capital imbalances in the financial system that will lead to a bond market collapse.

    www.forbes.com
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  • BetterOff said...

    Nah. He wouldn't fit under that category. He would fit into the category of a college student from a prodominanat Republican school that went to a music festival and came back a Democrat.

    I was mainly pointing that most college students are dependants and really don't quite understand the cause and effects of politics on the economy and in the business forum.

    They are easily swayed to one side or the other based on what they feel is "cool" or based off prejudice notions from friends and family. I for one much like many of my college friends have done complete 180s on our views since the days of fraternity houses and circus traveling days of following the music scene.

    I agree with most of this.

    The cool thing now for college students is to be as liberal as possible, and anyone who is not, is just an ignorant racist. yada yada.

    Most of the people that I went to undergrad with that are liberals, don't really understand how the world turns, as they have never had to fend for themselves. When they are in their 30's and have a mortgage, two kids, and a real job, they may understand what I've been trying to tell them for years.

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  • GoingLightBarny said...

    so you know...

    good ole peter schiff wants you to read this:

    I'm kinda shocked you would endorse Schiff.

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    Clemson ●

  • Clemson said...

    I'm kinda shocked you would endorse Schiff.

    why?

    not one poster ever listened to what I really believe.

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  • GoingLightBarny said...

    why?

    not one poster ever listened to what I really believe.

    I don't know. I guess I just figured you for a Keynesian.

    And correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you were a big supporter of Obama. Just about every economic policy that Schiff believes in, goes completely against the current administration.

    This post was edited by Clemson on 11/15/2012 at 7:34 AM

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  • Clemson said...

    I don't know. I guess I just figured you for a Keynesian.

    And correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you were a big supporter of Obama. Just about every economic policy that Schiff believes in, goes completely against the current administration.

    no, i did not vote for anything national.

    i do not, because i reject both choices.

    i am not a keynesian, though i am fiscally moderate in some ways, i am conservative in others.

    I do not believe that business should exist without sensible regulation, and that laissez faire policies work in the end.

    the hogs line up at the trough for every election, and most supporters of candidates are merely puppets. the wealthiest 1% and the corporations are as much of a problem, or more, than the poor.

    funny how what George Washington said in his farewell address has been eating this country alive, and the carpetbaggers profit off of it.

    i am more a realist, than anything. i tend to agree with "the economist's" view on Romney, who is a failure waiting to happen, as he would just accelerate the policies of Bernanke...

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