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HobnailedBoots said...
MUrray threw more TD's than anybody in the SEC by a wide margin, so if you don't have him in the top 3, you're being a ridiculous homer.
Connor Shaw the best athlete of the group? Yeah, you ARE a ridiculous homer.
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goodnews said...
The only thing ridiculous is the obvious lack of understanding that you have of other SEC QB's and what really makes QB's great. WHo did UGA beat this year of significance? He choked on more than one occasion when it counted. SO, he doesn't deserve to be in the top-3 until he proves he's a man when it matters even if he pads his stats against average teams. And, not understanding Shaw's athleticism shows you don't know other QB's. Nice try though.
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FLOBama said...
I think the league has a lot of good quarterbacks next year but none of them are great. I think Wilson is clearly the best of the bunch if he returns. He won't have as many weapons next year and I think Arkansas will run the ball a lot more. I have never been sold on Murray, kid just blows up stats against weak teams. I have never seen him have a great game against a great team. Honestly, I think AJ and Bray are better than him and will both have better seasons next year.
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lol that makes complete sense. so the argument that he isn't clutch doesn't hold water. the argument he can't win the big games doesn't hold water. and now not even stats matter!
well since stats are for losers and you don't care what they say, you can ignore this:
24 Connor Shaw, QB 148.3
27 Aaron Murray, QB 146.4
thats 2011 QB efficiency rating homeslice. oh yeah and Shaw had his first starts this year.
Aaron Murray is a 4'11" girl judging by these pictures (pre- and post- midget toss)
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jkt360 said...
Stafford didn't really ever win the big games... some people who did: Leinart, Sanchez, Tim Tebow. Point being that your point is irrelevant. The people who make a living off of evaluating talent say Murray is legit. I know it's all opinion, but I would really question someone who uses this logic. Otherwise AJ McCarron and Jordan Jefferson were the best two in the SEC. Georgia's line is very sub par in the SEC. Follow that with a pretty lack luster run game, then yes he does struggle against teams that throw his blockers around like toothpicks and stops nearly all run attempts in the backfield. Connor Shaw being compared to Murray is laughable. I don't care what the stats say. Stats are for chumps and assistant coaches. Don't let numbers on paper dilute your common sense.
AJ Green caught passes from three different QB's. What did he say about Murray? He wouldm't be surprised if Murray won Heisman. I believe that your hate for UGA and need for numbers on paper for validation has clouded your ability to see talent.
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2011 SEC Passer Efficiency Rankings Post Bowl (of returning players)
SEC Rank - Name - rating (national rank)
1. Tyler Wilson (Arky) - 148.35 (22) 2. Connor Shaw (USCe) - 148.31 (23) 3. AJ McCarron (Bama) - 147.27 (25) 4. Aaron Murray (UGA) - 146.41 (26) 5. Tyler Bray (UT) - 144.80 (32) 6. James Franklin (Mizz) - 139.88 (38) 7. Tyler Russell (MSU) - 135.10 (52) 8. Clint Moseley (AU) - 133.10 (56) 9. Randall Mackey (Miss) - 118.39 (88) 10. Jordan Rodgers (Vandy) - 113.76 (96) 11. Morgan Newton (UK) - 93.10 (lower than 100)
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goodnews said...
I'm sorry, but I'm not really sure what your point is. You say talent evaluators say that Murray is legit. I said in my previous post that he's the most "talented" guy in the SEC. So we agree. But, talent alone does no a great QB make. And, I never compared Shaw to Murray. All I said is that Shaw is the best athlete amongst the group. None of the Qb's mentioned can run with Shaw. He's (Shaw) also shown an ability to throw the ball of late. I just think that after a little more experience he'll be very good. And, I have good reason to think that. And, don't talk to Gamecocks about O-Line's who struggle to pass block.
Also, "stats are for chumps and assistant coaches" but playing well (or not playing well) in big games doesn't mean much? I just don't know what to say. Please, before you question someone's logic or common sense check your own.
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Oh I can the same as when I LMAO at USCe fans using stats to compare AJ Green and Alshon. While your stats are an excellent measure of what a person has done, they are in no way valid when comparing talent of two individuals. While I would not dare say that Aaron and Connor didn't have comparable years last year, I will continue to LMAO when USCe fans come trying to make a case that he is comparable in talent.
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