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Rank the Big Ten Recruiters

  • L_Himmler said...

    This is a meaningless ranking, because you aren't taking into account the effect that the coach's school has on his recruiting. Hoke wouldn't recruit this well if he were at Indiana, and Kevin Wilson wouldn't recruit this poorly if he were at Michigan. Ergo, ranking coaches' recruiting abilities based on the perceived quality of their classes is stupid.

    Party pooper.

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    Not sure about Lewis, but I think Allen ends up at ND.

    Agreed.

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    This is Michigan, fergodsakes.

    Never Lose Hoke

  • OmegaBuckeye said...

    2012 Urban 4 Hoke 7 2013 Urban 5 Hoke 2

    fixed it for you. We still have room for about 5 more recruits.

    So we can make up rankings now?

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  • Never Lose Hoke said...

    Vonn Bell and who else? I guess I could see TyQuan Lewis or Devon Allen. But I don't think either ending up at OSU.

    Vonn Bell favors Tenessee too.

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  • Brady Hoke said...

    So we can make up rankings now?

    OSU is 5 in the new Composite Rankings.

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    This is Michigan, fergodsakes.

    Never Lose Hoke

  • This is why I never "root" for scUM. Some people give me the well the BIG is better when scUM is better too crap. However, I don't have to hear stupid stuff like this when they have no success at all.

    Hoke puts in two good years, and you got a fan base arguing things like this. Please rank the top 5, 10, 15, 25 etc players each coach (Meyer, Hoke) has recruited in their careers. Please let me know which players you would take.

    Hoke is doing a great job. Please don't act like he is a HOF'er or something based on two years.

    BTW...I understand all fanbases do this. I don't have to listen to those other fanbases all the time though. It is also easier to laugh off ones in my own fanbase.

    reservemickey

  • Brady Hoke said...

    Vonn Bell favors Tenessee too.

    OSU and Tennessee are even

    Sgeason56

  • Never Lose Hoke said...

    Vonn Bell and who else? I guess I could see TyQuan Lewis or Devon Allen. But I don't think either ending up at OSU.

    Mitchell, Lewis, and Gibson.

    Sgeason56

  • Sgeason56 said...

    Mitchell, Lewis, and Gibson.

    Mitchell's an A&M lean, don't know about the other two

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  • reservemickey said...

    This is why I never "root" for scUM. Some people give me the well the BIG is better when scUM is better too crap. However, I don't have to hear stupid stuff like this when they have no success at all.

    Hoke puts in two good years, and you got a fan base arguing things like this. Please rank the top 5, 10, 15, 25 etc players each coach (Meyer, Hoke) has recruited in their careers. Please let me know which players you would take.

    Hoke is doing a great job. Please don't act like he is a HOF'er or something based on two years.

    BTW...I understand all fanbases do this. I don't have to listen to those other fanbases all the time though. It is also easier to laugh off ones in my own fanbase.

    Oh, you're using past stops as part of the argument. I thought they were asking currently.

    Worst case currently, Hoke at Michigan = Urbs at tOSU.
    Historically, Urbs at Florida > Hoke at Michigan.

    An argument can be made for Hoke currently also.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Oh, you're using past stops as part of the argument. I thought they were asking currently.

    Worst case currently, Hoke at Michigan = Urbs at tOSU. Historically, Urbs at Florida > Hoke at Michigan.

    An argument can be made for Hoke currently also.

    Please make the argument for Hoke then because I haven't seen anyone make one in this thread. Just team rankings from last year and this year from this site.

    Is that the only argument you have?

    reservemickey

  • reservemickey said...

    Please make the argument for Hoke then because I haven't seen anyone make one in this thread. Just team rankings from last year and this year from this site.

    Is that the only argument you have?

    Is this accurate? I read it recently.

    "Of the 16 recruits with both OSU and UM offers, 10 are Blue, and 6 are not. Hoke > Meyer"

    xxmgobluexx

  • reservemickey said...

    Please make the argument for Hoke then because I haven't seen anyone make one in this thread. Just team rankings from last year and this year from this site.

    Is that the only argument you have?

    Hoke is as good as or better than Meyer everywhere, but D line or CB.
    OL Hoke> Meyer
    LB Hoke> Meyer
    S Hoke> Meyer
    CB Meyer> Hoke
    DL Meyer> Hoke
    QB Hoke> Meyer
    backs Hoke=Meyer
    WR Hoke=Meyer
    TE Hoke=Meyer

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  • Urbz out recruited Hoke in two months last year/ nuff said

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  • Brady Hoke said...

    Hoke is as good as or better than Meyer everywhere, but D line or CB. OL Hoke> Meyer LB Hoke> Meyer S Hoke> Meyer CB Meyer> Hoke DL Meyer> Hoke QB Hoke> Meyer backs Hoke=Meyer WR Hoke=Meyer TE Hoke=Meyer

    Are you comparing players in this statement?

    reservemickey

  • reservemickey said...

    Are you comparing players in this statement?

    that they recruited yes

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Is this accurate? I read it recently.

    "Of the 16 recruits with both OSU and UM offers, 10 are Blue, and 6 are not. Hoke > Meyer"

    Things working in Hoke's favor on this.

    The scUM team is basically wide open for early playing time.
    He had an extra year to build relationships with these players. Many of them had a scUM offer before Meyer was even on the job.

    Edit: Didn't answer your question. I have no idea if that statement is accurate.

    This post was edited by reservemickey on 7/30/2012 at 3:08 PM

    reservemickey

  • reservemickey said...

    Things working in Hoke's favor on this.

    The scUM team is basically wide open for early playing time. He had an extra year to build relationships with these players. Many of them had a scUM offer before Meyer was even on the job.

    excuses

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  • Brady Hoke said...

    excuses

    You sound like a retarded douche ITT. Nobody but the biggest homer in the world sees this the way you do. You should really let this thread go, you sound like an idiot.

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  • FL Buckeye said...

    You sound like a retarded douche ITT. Nobody but the biggest homer in the world sees this the way you do. You should really let this thread go, you sound like an idiot.

    How am I the biggest homer. I tell it like it is, and don't lie and say that Urban Meyer's the best recruiter in the Big Ten when he just loads up on the DL and whatever scraps that Hoke didn't offer on the OL.

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  • Brady Hoke said...

    How am I the biggest homer. I tell it like it is, and don't lie and say that Urban Meyer's the best recruiter in the Big Ten when he just loads up on the DL and whatever scraps that Hoke didn't offer on the OL.

    Your guy has signed one class at Michigan. Urban's class was better than his, and he put that together in 6 weeks. Urban has earned the reputation of being one of if not the best recruiter in the sport. He did that by consistently pulling talent from around the country. Your guy hasn't done that yet. One day he may, but for now the guy has coached at Ball State and has recruited one pretty good class and has another very good class working.

    I'm not an Urban guy, I'm a Tress guy. I don't even like Urban, but the facts are clear as day on this. If you don't want to see them you're a homer.

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  • So the fact Urban Meyer has had a higher ranked class then Hoke every single year they've both been coaches doesn't mean anything? Currently Hoke has a #2 ranked class and Meyer a # 5 ranked class, but as your aware signing day is still six months away and UM has more recruits committed to date.

    Let's also overlook the other important criteria for a coach which is on field performance. Hoke just went over .500 for his career this last season and has never beaten a top 15 ranked team. Meyer onnthe other hand has a stellar on field record.

    Can speculate and break down any way you want, but Hoke has never signed a higher ranked class so to rank him higher is being a homer... Oh wait, only UM fans think it...

    OrlandoBuckeye

  • This thread in a nutshell: Michigan fans like Hoke, Ohio State fans like Meyer. Both sides are trying to prove the other wrong.

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    This is Michigan, fergodsakes.

    Never Lose Hoke

  • OrlandoBuckeye said...

    So the fact Urban Meyer has had a higher ranked class then Hoke every single year they've both been coaches doesn't mean anything? Currently Hoke has a #2 ranked class and Meyer a # 5 ranked class, but as your aware signing day is still six months away and UM has more recruits committed to date.

    Let's also overlook the other important criteria for a coach which is on field performance. Hoke just went over .500 for his career this last season and has never beaten a top 15 ranked team. Meyer onnthe other hand has a stellar on field record.

    Can speculate and break down any way you want, but Hoke has never signed a higher ranked class so to rank him higher is being a homer... Oh wait, only UM fans think it...

    He spent most of those years at a terrible MAC program, and Urban spent most of his time at Florida and Utah who ave more resourves than BSU.

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  • Never Lose Hoke said...

    This thread in a nutshell: Michigan fans like Hoke, Ohio State fans like Meyer. Both sides are trying to prove the other wrong.

    It's one thing to like your coach. If I were yall, I'd be very happy to have him. To say he is the better recruiter, when the other guy has a much longer and more successful history than the other is just being an idiot.

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