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Rank the top 10 coaches in College Basketball right now

  • Would post this on tGB but that doesn’t seem to get much traffic nowadays.

    1.Larry Brown

    2.K

    3.Jim Calhoun

    4.Izzo

    5.Pitino

    6.Boeheim

    7.Roy

    8.Donavan

    9.Cal

    10.Steve Fisher

    11 would be Self on my list.

    This post was edited by CWEBB on 5/13/2012 at 1:56 AM

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  • CWEBB said...

    Would post this on tGB but that doesn’t seem to get much traffic nowadays.

    1.Larry Brown

    2.K

    3.Jim Calhoun

    4.Izzo

    5.Pitino

    6.Boeheim

    7.Roy

    8.Donavan

    9.Cal

    10.Steve Fisher

    11 would be Self on my list.

    Just using your list

    1. Coach K

    2. Rick Pitino

    3. Jim Calhoun

    4. Larry Brown

    5. Billy Donovan

    6. Roy Williams

    7. Calipari

    8. Izzo

    9. Jim Boeh...

    10. Steve Fisher

    11. Bill Self

    This post has been edited 5 times, most recently by xxmgobluexx on 5/13/2012 at 10:12 AM

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  • Bill Self at 11? Are you kidding me? He'd be top 3 at least. He's broken records with how many games he's won over the past 6 years and doesn't look like he is slowing down.

    Hot Sauce

  • Hot Sauce said...

    Bill Self at 11? Are you kidding me? He'd be top 3 at least. He's broken records with how many games he's won over the past 6 years and doesn't look like he is slowing down.

    Put your list together. shrug

    xxmgobluexx

  • anyways...

    1. Coach K
    2. Calipari
    3. Self
    4. Izzo
    5. Matta
    6. Boheim
    7. Roy W
    8. Fisher
    9. Pitino
    10. Crean

    Hot Sauce

  • my mid major list

    1. Brad Stevens
    2. Mark Few
    3. Shaka Smart
    4. Stew Morrill
    5. Gregg Marshall
    6. Greg McDermott
    7. Dave Rose
    8. Randy Bennett
    9. Blaine Taylor
    10. Marvin Menzies

    Hot Sauce

  • Hot Sauce said...

    my mid major list

    1. Brad Stevens
    2. Mark Few
    3. Shaka Smart
    4. Stew Morrill
    5. Gregg Marshall
    6. Greg McDermott
    7. Dave Rose
    8. Randy Bennett
    9. Blaine Taylor
    10. Marvin Menzies

    I don't know enough about the mid majors, but I would put Few in front of Stevens for how long he has been keeping Gonzaga relevant.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    I don't know enough about the mid majors, but I would put Few in front of Stevens for how long he has been keeping Gonzaga relevant.

    I just value the two final fours.

    Hot Sauce

  • Hot Sauce said...

    anyways...

    1. Coach K 2. Calipari 3. Self 4. Izzo 5. Matta 6. Boheim 7. Roy W 8. Fisher 9. Pitino 10. Crean

    You have Matta ahead of Billy D? The same Billy who's won back to back titles at UF with back to back elite eights the last two years? The same Billy who beat Matta by alot in the title game, then beat them again in the final four the next year?

    Heres what he's done a UF.. keep in mind Ohio State was historically better than UF in basketball. Billy has elevated UF above OSU in every way.

    Billy has..

    Two national titles/played in three.. 2000/05/06
    Three elite eights
    Two sweet sixteens
    15 tourney's in 17 years. Longest tenured SEC coach and still under 50 years old.
    Imagine what he could have done starting at a program like OSU

    Show me what Matta has accomplished at a historically better program. He's a good coach, probably worthy of mention in the top 10, but how do you overlook Billy?

    1. Izzo - Dude makes final four every year it seems. MSU isn't the same type of program as many of the others.
    2. Boheim - Unique, tough teams. Always good.
    3. Coach K - Most accomplished. Made Duke, Duke.
    4. Billy D - Accomlished most in shortest amount of time. Took over the worst of all these programs.
    5. Self - Does it every year, without as many AA's
    6 Roy W - Underachieved at UNC a bit too much to be higher. Think he wins title if Marshall doesn't get hurt
    7.Pitino - Done it for a long time, but at two great programs
    8. Crean - Not yet, but he's gonna do big things at Indiana. Helps to have all those built in advantages at a Bball school
    9. Calipari - Best use of the system. Best program in nation. Still says something being able to get those freshmen to play the way they do.
    9. Shaka Smart /Stevens- Gonna move up this list as they moves up the coaching ranks. VCU and Butler have done amazing things with these guys.
    10. Matta - Recruits elite talent, wins alot. Needs to get over the hump.

    swampchomp615

  • swampchomp615 said...

    You have Matta ahead of Billy D? The same Billy who's won back to back titles at UF with back to back elite eights the last two years? The same Billy who beat Matta by alot in the title game, then beat them again in the final four the next year?

    Heres what he's done a UF.. keep in mind Ohio State was historically better than UF in basketball. Billy has elevated UF above OSU in every way.

    Billy has..

    Two national titles/played in three.. 2000/05/06
    Three elite eights
    Two sweet sixteens
    15 tourney's in 17 years. Longest tenured SEC coach and still under 50 years old.
    Imagine what he could have done starting at a program like OSU

    Show me what Matta has accomplished at a historically better program. He's a good coach, probably worthy of mention in the top 10, but how do you overlook Billy?

    1. Izzo - Dude makes final four every year it seems. MSU isn't the same type of program as many of the others.
    2. Boheim - Unique, tough teams. Always good.
    3. Coach K - Most accomplished. Made Duke, Duke.
    4. Billy D - Accomlished most in shortest amount of time. Took over the worst of all these programs.
    5. Self - Does it every year, without as many AA's
    6 Roy W - Underachieved at UNC a bit too much to be higher. Think he wins title if Marshall doesn't get hurt
    7.Pitino - Done it for a long time, but at two great programs
    8. Crean - Not yet, but he's gonna do big things at Indiana. Helps to have all those built in advantages at a Bball school
    9. Calipari - Best use of the system. Best program in nation. Still says something being able to get those freshmen to play the way they do.
    9. Shaka Smart /Stevens- Gonna move up this list as they moves up the coaching ranks. VCU and Butler have done amazing things with these guys.
    10. Matta - Recruits elite talent, wins alot. Needs to get over the hump.

    I'd rank Billy Donovan over Matta but how is winning by 9 a lot? We only went to The 2007 Final Four, we didn't go in 2006? So Tom Crean who's best finish in the B1G thus far is 5th, ranked ahead of Matta? Has Ohio State underachieved? Not really...They did in 2011 but this years team exceeded expectations and made it to the Final Four with no outside shooting. Let's see Matta has been to 2 Final Fours with 2 sweet 16's only one first round loss and a NCAA tourney snub that resulted in a NIT championship, but Tanning bed Crean is a better coach? Hey, it's your opinion and that's cool.

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  • Billy D turned a nothing program into a title winner which was pretty impressive. Right now, I'm not sure if he can get back to the level of the 06/07 teams. The last two years have had lucky tournament runs and the three years before that were very mediocre.

    Hot Sauce

  • Hot Sauce said...

    Bill Self at 11? Are you kidding me? He'd be top 3 at least. He's broken records with how many games he's won over the past 6 years and doesn't look like he is slowing down.

    That’s why I had to include him at 11 on my list. He’s a great coach, but he doesn’t have the accolades the other guys have on this list have. I had a hard time placing him on my list because of that. He could really be anywhere from to 7 to 11 on my list.

    You don’t think Brown is a top 10 coach in CBB right now?

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    CWEBB

  • Before I look at other people's lists:
    1. John Calipari
    2. Bill Self
    3. Steve Fisher
    4. Mark Few
    5. Rick Pitino
    6/7. Mike Krzyzewski/Roy Williams
    8. Tom Izzo
    9. Jamie Dixon
    10. Bob Huggins

    Honorable Mention: Jim Calhoun, Jim Boeheim, Scott Drew, Sean Miller, Bo Ryan (banghead), Brad Stevens, Thad Matta

    I'm probably forgetting someone obvious.

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    thejumper5

  • K
    Self
    Williams
    Petino
    Calipari
    Izzo
    Donavan
    Boeheim
    Huggins
    Matta
    Few

    Added Few at 11 for what he has done at a tiny school.
    Just off the top of my head before looking at everyone else.

    BetterOff

  • CWEBB said...

    You don’t think Brown is a top 10 coach in CBB right now?

    It depends on what do you mean by right now. Do you mean, at this moment, if you had to choose a coach to lead your program, or do you mean based on their career resume to this point? Based on resume? Sure. Based on the former? Absolutely not.

    ASBamaguy

  • ASBamaguy said...

    It depends on what do you mean by right now. Do you mean, at this moment, if you had to choose a coach to lead your program, or do you mean based on their career resume to this point? Based on resume? Sure. Based on the former? Absolutely not.

    I see where you’re getting at. Although I don’t expect to stay long at SMU I do think that it’s going to be his last job, and he will at least build a program and get them to maybe an Elite 8. But if you gave me a championship caliber team, and told me to pick a coach to lead them for one season. My choice would be LB.

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  • Larry Brown hasn't coached CBB since the 1980's, so I would wait to see how good he is now.

    Hot Sauce

  • CWEBB said...

    I see where you’re getting at. Although I don’t expect to stay long at SMU I do think that it’s going to be his last job, and he will at least build a program and get them to maybe an Elite 8. But if you gave me a championship caliber team, and told me to pick a coach to lead them for one season. My choice would be LB.

    Larry Brown will never get SMU to an Elite 8. I seriously doubt he ever gets him out of the first weekend of the tournament. He's a good basketball coach, but you have to have talent also, and I don't see him getting enough of it to a place like SMU. This program hasn't even been to the tournament since 1993.

    ASBamaguy

  • ASBamaguy said...

    Larry Brown will never get SMU to an Elite 8. I seriously doubt he ever gets him out of the first weekend of the tournament. He's a good basketball coach, but you have to have talent also, and I don't see him getting enough of it to a place like SMU. This program hasn't even been to the tournament since 1993.

    We’ll see. I think coaching matter’s a lot more now in the Tourney than talent used too, since the pool is so watered down because of EE’s. I don’t think the recent run of MM’s or non BCS schools making the FF is a coincidence either. He might have some trouble making it out of the BE though.

    This post was edited by CWEBB on 5/13/2012 at 8:39 PM

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  • swampchomp615 said...

    You have Matta ahead of Billy D? The same Billy who's won back to back titles at UF with back to back elite eights the last two years? The same Billy who beat Matta by alot in the title game, then beat them again in the final four the next year?

    Heres what he's done a UF.. keep in mind Ohio State was historically better than UF in basketball. Billy has elevated UF above OSU in every way.

    Billy has..

    Two national titles/played in three.. 2000/05/06
    Three elite eights
    Two sweet sixteens
    15 tourney's in 17 years. Longest tenured SEC coach and still under 50 years old.
    Imagine what he could have done starting at a program like OSU

    Show me what Matta has accomplished at a historically better program. He's a good coach, probably worthy of mention in the top 10, but how do you overlook Billy?

    1. Izzo - Dude makes final four every year it seems. MSU isn't the same type of program as many of the others.
    2. Boheim - Unique, tough teams. Always good.
    3. Coach K - Most accomplished. Made Duke, Duke.
    4. Billy D - Accomlished most in shortest amount of time. Took over the worst of all these programs.
    5. Self - Does it every year, without as many AA's
    6 Roy W - Underachieved at UNC a bit too much to be higher. Think he wins title if Marshall doesn't get hurt
    7.Pitino - Done it for a long time, but at two great programs
    8. Crean - Not yet, but he's gonna do big things at Indiana. Helps to have all those built in advantages at a Bball school
    9. Calipari - Best use of the system. Best program in nation. Still says something being able to get those freshmen to play the way they do.
    9. Shaka Smart /Stevens- Gonna move up this list as they moves up the coaching ranks. VCU and Butler have done amazing things with these guys.
    10. Matta - Recruits elite talent, wins alot. Needs to get over the hump.

    I'm with you on Billy D. If only for the fact you said he has three elite 8's but only two sweet 16's. That's hard to do. biggrin

    Seriously, back to back NC's needs to be in a too 5-7 list no matter what.

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    DWags

  • Any list that doesn't have Thad Matta on it is bogus! The only thing he hasn't done yet is win a National Championship and that is coming.

    superpup

  • D.Wags said...

    I'm with you on Billy D. If only for the fact you said he has three elite 8's but only two sweet 16's. That's hard to do. biggrin

    Seriously, back to back NC's needs to be in a too 5-7 list no matter what.

    It makes perfect sense.. Those sweet sixteens I counted were where our season ENDED in the sweet sixteen.. If you count up all the sweet sixteens, it would be 7, but five went beyond that round.

    In other words, nearly half the years he's been at UF, we've made the sweet sixteen or better.

    This post was edited by swampchomp615 on 5/14/2012 at 2:46 AM

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  • Buck that said...

    I'd rank Billy Donovan over Matta but how is winning by 9 a lot? We only went to The 2007 Final Four, we didn't go in 2006? So Tom Crean who's best finish in the B1G thus far is 5th, ranked ahead of Matta? Has Ohio State underachieved? Not really...They did in 2011 but this years team exceeded expectations and made it to the Final Four with no outside shooting. Let's see Matta has been to 2 Final Fours with 2 sweet 16's only one first round loss and a NCAA tourney snub that resulted in a NIT championship, but Tanning bed Crean is a better coach? Hey, it's your opinion and that's cool.

    I'm just looking at what he's doing with Indiana. They were the only team to beat last years natl title winner UK, during the regular season.

    That school is so rich and proud with tradition, but has been down for so stinkin long. He overachieved this year, and has a top two class coming in as well. I guess its more of a projection.

    I do think Matta has done a good job there at OSU. He could easily be ahead of Crean at this juncture. I just have a feeling IU is about to take off.

    My bad on the OSU thing. We played them twice that same year. Beat them the first game by 20 somethng when they were number one, then beat them again for the title. UCLA was the team UF beat in the other title game, then beat again in the final four.

    Point is, there aren't many, if any coaches who have accomplished as much as Billy during his tenure at UF. The three natl title games alone is a big deal, nevermind the elite 8's, sweet sixteens, and consecutive tourney appearances. Prior to Billy arriving at UF, we had made the sweet sixteen ONE TIME, and had made the tourney only half as many times as he's already been. When I say UF was mediocre, thats an understatement. He's still not even 50 years old as he took over a age 32. He's already on the short list of greatest SEC coaches of all time. Imagine if he coaches another say... 12 years. Resume= ridicky

    swampchomp615

  • Refuse to put Calipari on my top 10. I don't think he's that good a coach. When you're that good at talent evaluation and recruiting, you don't have to be.

    I'd probably go:

    1. K
    2. Calhoun
    3. Pitino
    4. Izzo
    5. Smart
    6. Donovan
    7. Boeheim
    8. Few
    9. Self
    10. Roy

    Seriously though, watch out for Crean at Indiana, as another poster ITT mentioned.

    EnterTheOcho

  • Roy Williams not having more titles is criminal. That guy should win them in his sleep with the way he recruits. Not sure I'd even have him Top 10.

    mpcoan