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DPGators said...
As a Rays fan I enjoy what we got We needed a bat and he could be a great compliment to Longo
Royals u het a great pitcher in Shields ans a good pitcher in Davis Bit Shields is a FA in 2014 and we weren't re signing him over Price
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Hskr4Life23 said...
The more I think about it the less I like it for the Royals. They have been building for all these guys to come up to the Majors and now they are ready so they trade a big chunk of them.
I guess they like who they have and feel like a pitching staff is a bigger need to win now. Which is true cuz the staff sucked.
Have a bad feeling Myers is going to be another of those players that Royals fans think back and just cry that he should be in KC.
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freernnur5 said...
That could end up happening with Myers. He has great potential, and I think he is under team control through 2018 at a cheap price so the Rays must love that end of the deal.
The Royals have some good pieces and needed some starting pitcher help. This might be one of those moves to get them out of rebuilding for the future mode.
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andy88c said...
This is an absolutely incredible deal for Tampa. But that doesn't mean it's not a good deal for KC.
Shields is getting paid $9 mil this year (2013) and has a club option for $12 mil next year. Then he is an FA. Tampa is a team running on a $65 million or so payroll. That's a) too expensive for them and b) they definitely would not re-sign him (look at Upton, Crawford). Longoria is the franchise player.
Wade Davis was a former top prospect who hasn't really cut it as a starter, but was really, really good out of the pen last year (hitters hit below .190 against him). But again, he will cost $2.8 mil in 2013 and then 4.8 mil. in 2014. If he doesn't turn into a starter, Tampa would prefer not to pay a reliever, even that good of one, $4.8 mil. So there is some calculated risk in trading Davis.
The return is huge and the thing with getting youth is that under baseball rules, you get them under team control for six years before they hit FA, unless they negotiate for deals that extend years for less money (Tampa did this with Longoria and also Price, I think).
Wil Myers might be the best hitting prospect in baseball. Odorizzi has now been traded twice, which is interesting, maybe concerning. Montgomery is an ex-top prospect (might've been the best pitcher in their system two years ago), but he's a lefty, still only 23 and has a wicked changeup. Leonard was picked in 2011; he did hit well last year.
If anyone can harness arms it's Tampa. Their park helps. Baseball America had Wil Myers listed 1st in their Royals Top Prospects and Odorizzi 5th. Myers is a top-10 prospect in baseball--maybe top-5.
With all of that said (sorry for length), it's not necessarily a bad trade for KC if they think their team can win now. They pretty much made it clear this offseason that Myers was available for an ace. And they got their ace. They're spending a lot of $ right now and don't really seem to have a hard budget, so paying Shields next two years isn't a concern. See if change if scenery helps Davis. They set out what they accomplished to do, I guess. Myers and lesser prospect for Shields was probably on or near the table at the trade deadline this past season.
So for the Royals, it depends significantly on Moustakas, Hosmer, and Cain in my opinion. The kids have a lot of potential and Moustakas and Hosmer were really highly rated. Hosmer was great his rookie 2011, but not last year. Butler is a hoss and a modern day Edgar Martinez...Gordon is solid, too. The rest of them have to step up.
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