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a2brutus said...
why is it when msu or osu beats u guys it was a very poor r.r team, but when u guys beat the worst team in the last 80 yrs for osu its a great win for the program?
no flame here, but in the rivalry a win is a win....pryor was 4-0 against um (ok 3-0 save last yr)....
if u want to play the "we sucked that/those yrs then isnt denard's win last yr tainted?"
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maize&blue21 said...
It's because the defense were among the worst in all of college football and the offense was nothing more than run Denard.
The reason we brag is because that OSU team wasn't actually that bad stats wise, they just couldn't score when they needed to.
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RockyRaccoon said...
A large part of this could be "what might have been".
With the Julio vs Green debate...had Green signed with Alabama and Julio with UGA, I think their stats would have been reversed and we'd still be debating who the #1 WR in that class was. 1 and 1A, imo.
What do you do with Terrelle Pryor? Had he signed with Michigan instead of OSU, he'd have had better stats, but wouldn't have won quite as much. Do you value the wins or the stats? Even with his abbreviated career, he has to be in the Top 10.
Who is the best OL from the class? Kalil or Barrett Jones?
LaMichael James had the best statistics at RB of anyone. It is interesting how the game has changed. 20 years ago, had he been so close to the Rushing Record, there would have been enormous national pressure for him to stay and break the record. Now, it was hardly a thought outside of Eugene and many didn't realize he had such a legitimate shot.
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a2brutus said...
why is it when msu or osu beats u guys it was a very poor r.r team, but when u guys beat the worst team in the last 80 yrs for osu its a great win for the program?
no flame here, but in the rivalry a win is a win....pryor was 4-0 against um (ok 3-0 save last yr)....
if u want to play the "we sucked that/those yrs then isnt denard's win last yr tainted?"
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
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Never Lose Hoke said...
Normally I wouldn't call the OSU win a great win for the program, but since it hadn't happened in a while, it was good to get it off our backs. And I'm not saying that the wins against RR's teams shouldn't be counted equally, but to say that Pryor should be the #1 re-ranked prospect in 08' because he was 4-0 over a poor team is idiotic.
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maize&blue21 said...
It's close, but Green has those long ass arms and can literally catch any ball within a garage's distance away from him. Jones is very good, but also deals with injury issues.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Alonzo Harris on 7/4/2012 at 11:19 PM
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maize&blue21 said...
It's close, but Green has those long ass arms and can literally catch any ball within a garage's distance away from him. Jones is very good, but also deals with injury issues.
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Alonzo Harris said...
You forgot Nick Perry, 1st round DE and top 50 prospect out of HS. Rated higher than Upshaw in both.
Edit didn't mean to quote you
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maize&blue21 said...
It's close, but Green has those long ass arms and can literally catch any ball within a garage's distance away from him. Jones is very good, but also deals with injury issues.
This post was edited by RockyRaccoon on 7/4/2012 at 11:44 PM
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thejumper5 said...
The best guys at each position from the '08 class, IMHO:
QB--Luck, RG3 RB--James, Ingram WR--Blackmon, AJ Green TE--Rudolph OL--Kalil, Jones DL--Bowers, Dareus LB--Arthur Brown, Hightower DB--Peterson, Mark Barron
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RockyRaccoon said...
I think Green has displayed better "ball skills", but Jones has displayed better toughness and was a "winner" at the college level. Green seems more "fluid" while Jones might be considered "stiff". Until his last year at Alabama, Jones' hands were less sure than Green's, but Jones became more "acrobatic" in his last season with his athleticism on display more and more and his hands became a strength.
Even now, in looking back at what was, it is incredibly difficult to separate the two. I don't think it is even possible to say one is better than the other. It comes down to preference more so than anything else that can actually be measured.
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RockyRaccoon said...
I think Green has displayed better "ball skills", but Jones has displayed better toughness and was a "winner" at the college level. Green seems more "fluid" while Jones might be considered "stiff". Until his last year at Alabama, Jones' hands were less sure than Green's, but Jones became more "acrobatic" in his last season with his athleticism on display more and more and his hands became a strength.
Even now, in looking back at what was, it is incredibly difficult to separate the two. I don't think it is even possible to say one is better than the other. It comes down to preference more so than anything else that can actually be measured.
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Re-Rank the 2008 Class