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Mr.Stache said...
Of course, of course. Myself and millions of other fiscal conservatives are wrong because we don't agree with your line of thinking. Typical. We don't need lower corporate taxes to bring more jobs. The wealthiest 1% don't really pay 90% of Taxes. I'm furious that I pay 20% on 100,000 while rich, whitey, job producer pays 10% on 1,000,000,000. Raising taxes on those that provide jobs always works.
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Grand Slam said...
That's hilarious. You don't know my views. The problem with people with your views is that you can't accept facts. Like the fact that raising or lowering the top rate has almost no effect on job creation whatsoever. However, lowering the top rate concentrates wealth even more so at the top. That kind of wealth disparity can threaten the entire democracy. You guys live in this dream world where everyone that doesn't make six figures is lazy and a leach. That's simply ridiculous. Most people work hard and want to make it. When you disparage those people, you can't win. Capitalism is demand based, not supply based. There has to be a demand for a product or service for it to sell, and a greater demand for it to sell more so that new jobs are created. The more people that do well the better we all do.
Having said that, I think we should cut corporate taxes, but that is a global competitiveness issue. Not a cutting taxes leads to jobs, which is and always has been bullshit.
This post was edited by DrStache on 11/7/2012 at 8:38 AM
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Mr.Stache said...
I glad you got that out. Really put me in my conservative place. Thank you for always being right. If I have any other opinions on life, government or religion I'll be sure to run it by you to verify those liberal bullets you just made. Clinton lowered taxes. Bush lowered taxes. Federal Revenue went up. More than anytime in history % wise. You state that I don't know your views but then to tell me " you people that make 6 figures consider everyone lazy and a leach that doesn't". Do you not see the hypocrisy in your post? I think a large portio of this country is lazy and are leaches. The numbers tell me it's true but if you're a hardworking, single mother who makes 25,000 a year and somehow manages to raise kids on that, I think that's heroic an amazing. I don't have a problem with entitlements or assistance. I was raised by a single mother, receiving food stamps, the whole works. Here's the thing....She worked her ass off. She worked 2 jobs and was going to college at 27( federal grant). You think i think she was a leach or lazy? lmfao. Her struggle was the best thing that ever happened to me. I have a problem with the ones who don't try and better themselves. Who collect a paycheck and do nothing more than that. You should too.
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Grand Slam said...
I'm no fvcking liberal. I told hold any opinions on your life or religion, I don't give a shit what you do with it. That assumption just shows how far right Republicans have gone. Cutting taxes doesn't lead to higher revenue. That's ridiculous. Clinton raised taxes and balanced the budget.
And I am extremely bothered by the people that actually don't try to make it and are content to get a handout, but those people are an extremely small percentage of the population. There's many more poor people who work hard and want to make it.
When you lambast deficits and then propose huge tax cuts, you're not a serious person.
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Mr.Stache said...
And just so we're clear. You did "freely" assume that people like me who make 6 figures a year think all people that don't are lazy and leaches. That's a HUGE reach and assumption, no? Do all people that don't make 6 figures assume this about those who do? I know I don't think Obama, who is worth well more than me ,thinks I'm Lazy or a leach.
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Republicans come off as hateful elitist. 90% of repubs are white, the party reaches out only to a shrinking base. FoxNews rhetoric does enthuse your base but it turns everyone else off. Sure msnbc is just as bad, but nobody watches/recites it.
To appeal to others they need to be what they say they are, SMALL GOVT. Removing the religion from their legislative process will open them up to a large group. They should rail on the war against drugs and talk about how it disproportionately harms blacks. Quit judging gay people and let god do it.
They have to get in touch and quit acting like everyone is lazy and food stamps is ruining the country. Military spending is a much bigger problem.
If you didn't fight for the country, stop supporting war so much. It's crazy that romney's religion helped him avoid war, yet it wont help him to not send other people's children. People hate that ish.
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bhiley77 said...
I don't think there's a single political fantasy more hilarious then Ron Paul being able to be elected president in today's America.
The Democrats could have just not campaigned, taken long vacations, and encouraged their supporters to donate to Ron Paul so he had more money to advertise his plans to dismantle social programs. The issues his supporters feel are slam dunks are only of interest to about 5% of the electorate.
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I don't think there's a single political fantasy more hilarious then Ron Paul being able to be elected president in today's America.
The Democrats could have just not campaigned, taken long vacations, and encouraged their supporters to donate to Ron Paul so he had more money to advertise his plans to dismantle social programs. The issues his supporters feel are slam dunks are only of interest to about 5% of the electorate.
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Vast majority of americans are conservative but won't vote for the supposedly conservative party.
Instead of accusing everyone of voting on race and welfare you should examine your party.
Ron paul would grab a ton of liberal voters too and completely destroy the dem base. He would restructure the parties in a way favorable to repubs.
But you guys are intent on winning by acting super conservative around repubs and moderate around dems.
This post was edited by Grand Slam on 11/7/2012 at 10:27 AM
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ilovelamp51 said...
Coming from someone who is a conservative Christian, I couldn't agree more. We are not a Christian nation anymore. Republicans need to accept that & re-adjust their focus or they will continue to get smoked. Our focus needs to be on this economy... creating jobs, minimizing expenses, knocking down this deficit, reducing the # of people on welfare, overturning obamacare, etc... Those are the real issues that are killing America right now. Who cares if gay people want to receive tax benfits or people want to smoke a joint legally?
Attack the issues that matter. Live your life how God leads you too. Leave the rest up to him.
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Vast majority of americans are conservative but won't vote for the supposedly conservative party.
Instead of accusing everyone of voting on race and welfare you should examine your party.
Ron paul would grab a ton of liberal voters too and completely destroy the dem base. He would restructure the parties in a way favorable to repubs.
But you guys are intent on winning by acting super conservative around repubs and moderate around dems.
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My family has owned/operated a citrus company for the past 40 years.. We employee about 200 people, own a decent amount of acreage & have done very well for ourselves. Unless things change, that is about to change drastically. Obamacare is going to drive people like us (small business owners) out of the industry. It really is scary.. I feel like 20 years down the road, a large majority will be working for the government, in our socialist, western Europe country.
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My family has owned/operated a citrus company for the past 40 years.. We employee about 200 people, own a decent amount of acreage & have done very well for ourselves. Unless things change, that is about to change drastically. Obamacare is going to drive people like us (small business owners) out of the industry. It really is scary.. I feel like 20 years down the road, a large majority will be working for the government, in our socialist, western Europe country.
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