The Blue Board

I'm serious. Walk me through how Obamacare forces you to pay whatever amount you're claiming it forces you to pay. If it's as bad as you say it is, it shouldn't be hard to point to the relevant provisions of the law and walk me through the subsequent calculations.

Repubs need to realize that everyone is not rich. Also, everyone is not intimidated by the idea that if you make rich republican business owners mad that they will take their jobs and run. This is America. These people love money. They are not taking their jobs anywhere. In fact, their are hundreds of thousand unfilled jobs in America right now. The problem is those jobs require an education. The minimum wage jobs are the jobs that dominate the jobless rate numbers. Those jobs are created when people spend money. The middle class is the biggest spenders. They have not been spending because they have been held hostage by high insurance premiums and high fuel cost. Some of you act as if you were born in an outhouse and are completely clueless of what you are surounded by. The sad part is a lot of republicans vote republican because they fear the rich. The rich would not be rich without the common man.

The problem isn't that Republicans need to realize the not everyone is rich. It's that Republicans need to realize that not everyone can become rich. Hard work is not always going to help. There is always going to be a lower, middle and upper class in a democratic capitalistic society. And there are going to be limitations to the lower and middle class that the upper class will not have to worry about in trying to work their way up the class structure. The lower and middle class are going to have less access to education, training, resources, and frankly time to be able to work their way to prosperity.

This, this, this. The American dream is all well and good, but America is a tiered society, not a country of temporarily down-on-their-luck millionaires. Right now, there is a large portion of the country that will never be "rich" - or anything close to it. Our task as a country should be to recognize this fact and do what we can to increase mobility rather than burying our heads in the sand and crowing about the "American Dream" and the "land of opportunity."

Technology and productivity gains are going to make reaching full employment harder and harder.

Maybe I am in the minority with personal experience, but I disagree. My grandfather grew up on a farm and then started a construction company from scratch that is still in business today. My dad (a son-in-law) grew up a poor kid on the wrong side of the tracks, turned that business into a mutli-million dollar business.

Maybe times have changed, but hard work by the most influential men in my life laughs at what you claim.

Don't forget virtual employment either. The company I work for does web design and advertising and we all work from home and interact via Skype and share files over FTP. We can do the quality and amount of work that bigger firms do and sign the same big name clients. I'm not saying agencies like BBDO are going anywhere, but smaller shops are signing the Coca-Cola's and AT&T's of the world now, and they're doing it with fewer people and lower overheard since they don't pay for office space. I think you'll start to see a lot of industries go this way, the ones that it can work for obviously.

And with all of the multi-million dollar construction companies in place that your grandfather and father built, where's the room for someone else to start one? There's a lot of market saturation in things like this; there simply isn't room for most people, regardless of hard work, to do what they did. I'm not saying it's impossible, don't get me wrong, but there's a lot more luck involved in today's world when it comes to making it big IMO. You've obviously got to work hard, but you also must be in the right place at the right time when the opportunity arises.

You are a fool and will regret your misunderstanding of changing landscape of the "Divided States of America"

Make sure you and your children learn Spanish - the "hand out" party an it's entitled followers will send this country into the next Great Depression.

Follow a census report - the country will be dominated by Hispanics coming across the boarder in as short as 20 years.

You are so consumed with "ha ha my team won" that you were willing to give the county away.

Congrats - you got what you voted for

There is a market saturation, with what he does now. But he didn't start out doing the type of work he does now. He started out small, very small. He adapted to what work was available. It took him 30 years to get to the point where the company is now.

How many multi-million (adjust for inflation) dollar construction companies were already in existence while his was coming up?

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From my understanding, Obamacare requires companies to pay for 25% of the cheapest medical plan offered to a minimum of 25% of it's employees (this is just for the employee and not their family).
The actual cost to each company will depend on the various plans offered (how much is the cheapest one) and how many employees they employ.

My company pays 40% of the medical premium for all employs. It still costs each employ around 125.00 per week. If what you're saying is true, that's not gonna be good if the health costs don't go down drastically.