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Did they simply work hard, or did they work hard in a profession/industry that leads to profit? That's the difference.

The only reason this country is divided is because people like you can't accept a changing demographic of a country famed for being a melting pot.

Viewing an influx of Hispanic citizens as a sign of the end times is, frankly, insulting and racist. I welcome anyone who wants a better life for themselves into America, and I think so much of the strength of our country is built on the acceptance of immigrants of all races, sexes, ages and creeds.

Your intolerance and xenophobia will only continue to make you a miserable person until you let go of such outdated and ignorant prejudices.

You're missing my point. I have no doubt he competes with other companies, but there's a big difference between him coming up when there were 3 or 4 other competitors and trying now if there are, say, 20 other competitors.

I'm not saying lead anyone by the hand, but don't be naive and act like hard work assuredly equals wealth. It will equal success, no doubt, but it takes more than just hard work to make it big.

Again, those are your personal experiences. If those experiences were the rule, the economy would be in much better shape.

He competed with a ton of companies when he first started. They can ramble on forever on different companies doing various types of work that they competed with in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. Now the competition is more selected, but that is due to the size and type of work he built his company into.

The competition to get started is no different than what he started with. ( he started from nothing, built from scratch) It isn't just hard work, it is a business sense, management... But hard work is a major player.

It's totally different. But again, no one is telling people not to work hard. We're just trying to get people to accept the fact that even if you work hard, it doesn't mean you're going to become rich.

Think about it, if you told the laziest of the lazy moochers that they could continue mooching and net a measly $15,000 or whatever a year or work their tails off (which we know they don't want to do) but could become millionaires, you don't think most of those moochers would do jus that? Don't be cynical about it, they would.

The problem is this country needs the lower and middle class in order to be capitalistic. That means it needs people, hard working people, willing to make a lot less money than you or me being janitors or mechanics or... you get the idea.

This is the "you're racist" excuse Libs pull constantly. You don't know me outside of this board, but quick to label me racist. Thats hilarious. I''m not racist - I don't like you. Not your race, not your beliefs. "You don't like me cause of my race" - no I don't like you cause you're an ass.

I don't care if you are black, white or Mexican -I don't like that I work 50+ hours a week and lazy ass system workers that are sitting on their ass all day doing drugs, watching Jerry springer, playing Xbox all day only to get off your ass to go collect welfare. If that is you and you are black, white or Mexican - I don't like you personally.

Oh - by the way - I'm Cherokee Indian, full blood, family never took a nickel of assistance. Take your melting pot shit and stuff it up your ass. You melted into my people's land.

You're soft

You still have yet to explain why an influx of Hispanic immigrants is a bad thing for America. Based on your last post, it would seem that you're implying that such an influx would result in an increase in "lazy ass system workers" - an observation which is patently racist. If you're implying something else, I welcome your explanation.

Also, congratulations, you're Cherokee, good for you. If you're still angry about any immigrants coming to the Americas, that would go a long way to explaining your xenophobic rants.

Yea, I will take my personal experience on that also. My wife is Mexican-American. You can work your way up, it is up to you. Once again, other factor come into play, not just the "work" involved. Many personal choices along the way.

Exactly. Other factors include: where you are born/grow up, your parents' socioeconomic status, your family situation, your educational history (influenced by where you grow up), the culture surrounding your childhood, your race, your religion, and the political climate at different formative points in your life.

There are many millions of people who work hard merely to subsist, who will never get rich, and there are a lot more of those people than there are those who work equally hard and become rich. I think that's as equally indisputable as hard work not necessarily resulting in riches.

Study economics - the influx will cause welfare and the costs of Obamacare through the roof. The US is over populated as modern medicine is extending life expectancy beyond capacity. The largest generation in the history of the US will begin to retire in 2013 - the costs to this nation to take care of those who took care of us will alone bankrupt the economy if we continue down the "borrowing from other countries" mentality - do the math.

Start thinking beyond the length of your nose.

History loves to repeat itself - when the influx of Mexicans start kicking you off your land - don't come crying to me

I like a lot of what he says, then he says something about a zombie apocalypse. dude is a loony.

His theory on The Gold Standard is breath taking.