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ReasonableDoubt said...
The problem with the republicans is not that 90% of blacks voted for obama. Your problem is that 90% of your voters are white. Play the race card all you want, but those same black people will likely vote for the next dem candidate regardless of race.
It's awfully hypocritical to be offended by a large percentage of blacks voting so one sided but completely ignore that repub party is only white people.
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dpfenny said...
Many illegals have no desire to become citizens. They want to work, make money for their families and return home. The US takes in approx 1 million immigrants every year. Those that want to stay could get in line like everyone else. We do need a guest worker program for the illegals though.
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xxmgobluexx said...
Holy crap, you really think people it is that difficult for people work their way up. As I have stated many times, it isn't just about work, it is personal choices along the way. Ones that may drag someone down.
People in poverty can work themself out of poverty. Here is something we agree on, it is hard to work yourself out of the situation. Shocking, I know. It takes hard work, effort, perseverance... To get yourself out of that situation, but it can be done.
You give those don't work to much credit, and don't give enough credit to those that work themself up the food chain.
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xxmgobluexx said...
Holy crap, you really think people it is that difficult for people work their way up. As I have stated many times, it isn't just about work, it is personal choices along the way. Ones that may drag someone down.
People in poverty can work themself out of poverty. Here is something we agree on, it is hard to work yourself out of the situation. Shocking, I know. It takes hard work, effort, perseverance... To get yourself out of that situation, but it can be done.
You give those don't work to much credit, and don't give enough credit to those that work themself up the food chain.
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CMXI said...
I would LOVE for you to give hard evidence as to how that influx of Hispanics will cause welfare and the costs of Obamacare to go "through the roof." Seriously. If you're going to make assertions like that, you should be able to back it up.
As a matter of fact, you say "do the math." Why don't you do it for me? Use this math to prove your point.
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vtfan_90 said...
The Gov't is to blame partially. They make it way to easy: like unemployment you are supposed to apply for 2 jobs a week or whatever the requirement is. All you have to do is apply to places you are not qualified for and you will never get a job. Nobody ever checks up on that.
The Gov't just hands out money left and right to people and have no idea where the money ends up. Pathetic really pisses me off thinking about it.
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xxmgobluexx said...
Here is a personal experience of mine, that must be rare and never happen anywhere else. My wife has a nurse that applies for a job every week. List her name as Pocahontas. List Disney movies as references.
She does her minimum, to get her minimun.
Go Blue and Go Titans!
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azvalleybuckeye said...
If anything that should make you strive to better yourself so that if/when you decide to reproduce your offspring aren't in the same situation.
Why should I feel bad for someone else's poor decisions.
A crack head mother would make me work my ass off to get away from that life.
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I started working straight out of high school for a rebar manufacturer. Started in the shop bending rebar and worked my way into an office job. By 22 I was the top project Manager the company had. By busting my ass im the youngest guy that had ever made it to P.M. in the company's existence.
Background so you don't think im some snobby rich kid. My father was a drug addict and my mother was a single mom working at a nursing home making $11 an hour.
So yes I agree with this statement if you are willing to work hard you will get somewhere in life.. your road may be rougher than other but you will gain something.
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xxmgobluexx said...
For sure. The opportunity is still there for anyone willing to work for it.
And it isn't just work for it. I worked with plenty of guys that busted their balls, only to piss away their earnings in a weekend at the bar in Georgia while their wife struggles to pay the bills back home in Michigan. Those guys disgusted me.
Others worked hard all day, went back to the motel and saved their money so that they had more out of life than a memory and an itching dick from a night at bar.
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azvalleybuckeye said...
Did you not just say you were in a similar situation and turned out okay?
I had great parents. Both made 6 figures. Didnt help me.
I got in a lot of trouble as a juvenile, ended up having to drop out of high school. I didnt ask for anyone's help, I worked and still work my ass off everyday.
I'm now 24, ops/marketing mgr for a global sat comms company. I own my own house and a BMW M5. Not because someone felt sorry for me, no hand outs here.
Work ethic, its sadly a missing component in today's society.
Edit: nvm I see that was someone else, either way. Its a decision you have to make. You either want to live a better life and do something about it, or sit back and go to waste. That's your decision, giving hand outs is only clouding judgement on said decision.
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CliftonHokie09 said...
How far do you think those people can go through life working like that? Having a work ethic is great, but there are other factors that are going to prevent those in the lower class from significantly improving their lives in employment namely lack of education and training. While the world needs ditch diggers, there isn't a whole lot of career growth as a ditch digger. Most hourly jobs are like that, which limits their ability to work their way through a field. I mean a janitor at a hospital isn't going to become a doctor because they work at a hospital. Why not provide incentives for them so they can take night classes at the community college. Incentives like lower taxes, affordable education through assisted loans, etc. If you're a higher income individual, shouldn't you take pride that your taxes are helping your fellow Americans?
This post was edited by azvalleybuckeye on 11/7/2012 at 2:52 PM
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I started working straight out of high school for a rebar manufacturer. Started in the shop bending rebar and worked my way into an office job. By 22 I was the top project Manager the company had. By busting my ass im the youngest guy that had ever made it to P.M. in the company's existence.
Background so you don't think im some snobby rich kid. My father was a drug addict and my mother was a single mom working at a nursing home making $11 an hour.
So yes I agree with this statement if you are willing to work hard you will get somewhere in life.. your road may be rougher than other but you will gain something.
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Leppycole said...
The math is done
Www.census.gov
I get get it - you're a Dem fanboy like: IPhone Fanboy, Droid Fanboy, Mac/PC fanboy - statistics and common logic are your kryptonite so you lock it on a lead box and act like its not there......
Obama had 11% more of the women vote, 90% of the black vote, 80% of the Hispanic vote and 100% of the Muslim American vote. He played the sheep herder and marched his sheep away from the economic issues, away from the costs of Obamacare and away from the growing unemployment rate - he marched all you sheep to the fresh pile of oats held in the bucket of free hand outs and meaningless social issues.
I applaud how he manipulated all of the educated and non educated dems
Next question.
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