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  • ksredmill said...

    I put etc referring to whoever from that crowd is still involved. I just threw out the biggest names from the past honestly. I too have my doubts of many of them being involved these days...just speaking in generalities.

    Yeah I understood. Just those guys don't have uch say anymore. McWhorter, Ranes, and JJ are our new big dogs probably. Lowder has seemed to stay away from this search right now. People obviously will listen to Dye but he's not making any real decisions.

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  • rolBAMAballs said...

    Patterson, fisher, Petrino IMO would be definite good hires that would make auburn a top 10 team. Petrino has shown he can really make gold out of mud on offense regardless of his recruiting

    The others would be a wait and see

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  • kitemac said...

    I want to get a feel for what other fans would think about a potential hire at Auburn. I don't care about off the field type stuff. Just purely on how you thing the coaches would do in the SEC against your team and other in conference. Basically tell me why this or that hire would concern you or you just love because you think it's a bad fit. Keep the opinions of if we could or if we should hire out of it. Just purely on how you think it would affect you guys. So the list would be:

    Gus Malzahn Jimbo Fisher Bobby Petrino Jeff Fisher Kirby Smart Fedora Mora Jr Gary Patterson

    They are facing likely probation. The new coach must be mature enough to deal with all that comes with that.

    Malzahn makes sense but I think Fisher brings the level of maturity and stability to get through the storm

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  • DawginKY said...

    They are facing likely probation. The new coach must be mature enough to deal with all that comes with that.

    Malzahn makes sense but I think Fisher brings the level of maturity and stability to get through the storm

    We are?

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  • I would say the strongest likely candidates are

    Mora
    Patterson
    Fedora (very underrated coach)

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  • DawginKY said...

    They are facing likely probation.

    lol. Just like for Cam. When will you guys learn?

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  • DawginKY said...

    They are facing likely probation. The new coach must be mature enough to deal with all that comes with that.

    Malzahn makes sense but I think Fisher brings the level of maturity and stability to get through the storm

    Lol. No we aren't. Stop being a punk little girl.

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  • CptAUmerica21 said...

    Lol. No we aren't. Stop being a punk little girl.

    So, everything is tucked away just as neatly as it was two years ago? You know this for sure?

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  • Grand Slam said...

    So, everything is tucked away just as neatly as it was two years ago? You know this for sure?

    Hey, we have a pretty good and civil thread going here. Lets not derail it. I'm all for the occasional flame and there are several threads going now that would be great for that, but lets keep this one going.

    bamadvm

  • It would be absolutely stupid if Auburn hired anyone other than Petrino. He's available. He's the best coach of the bunch. Easy choice.

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  • Mr.Stache said...

    It would be absolutely stupid if Auburn hired anyone other than Petrino. He's available. He's the best coach of the bunch. Easy choice.

    I kind of agree. That would be the smart move, IMO. That's also why I question the search committee they've put together. Seems like they are trying to find someone that will "fit in" again too much to me.

    I kind of like the idea of hiring an outside firm of some sort and letting them come up with 5 or 6 names and then see why or why they aren't the guys that the school has come up with. I just can't see the end result of something like that being anything other than Bobby Petrino is the best guy for the job from an on the field perspective and that includes Patterson, IMO. Patterson still has not proven that he can compete at the highest level. Petrino has proven that he can have top 10 type teams at Arkansas. Now, just make the decision on whether you are willing to deal with the PR issues until he coaches his first game. We all know that people are going to have their jokes until the season starts, but once that happens it is all about results, IMO.

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  • BetterOff said...

    I kind of agree. That would be the smart move, IMO. That's also why I question the search committee they've put together. Seems like they are trying to find someone that will "fit in" again too much to me.

    I kind of like the idea of hiring an outside firm of some sort and letting them come up with 5 or 6 names and then see why or why they aren't the guys that the school has come up with. I just can't see the end result of something like that being anything other than Bobby Petrino is the best guy for the job from an on the field perspective and that includes Patterson, IMO. Patterson still has not proven that he can compete at the highest level. Petrino has proven that he can have top 10 type teams at Arkansas. Now, just make the decision on whether you are willing to deal with the PR issues until he coaches his first game. We all know that people are going to have their jokes until the season starts, but once that happens it is all about results, IMO.

    PR issues only scratch the surface. Anyone that hires Petrino has to know that their own lively hood at Auburn rests on Petrino cleaning up his act. One misstep and he's gone along with everyone involved in hiring him. That's why I wouldn't touch him. He's the easy choice as far as knowing what you're getting on the football field. Off the field is another story all together.

    This post was edited by DrStache on 11/28/2012 at 4:31 PM

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  • bhiley77 said...

    I think the biggest problem is recruiting. There's a certain type of player/parent who would just cross him off their list entirely. Given the competition for recruiting in the region that's going to matter.

    For a year or two maybe, but even that would go away in time. Look at Clinton's approval ratings not long after office. I also think the number that would isn't that high.

    BetterOff

  • bhiley77 said...

    Everybody on auburn's perspective coaching list has been given a complimentary subscription to auburn undercover, so they know that no matter how much smoke there seems to be there will never ever ever be any fire. You bammers really need to grow up.

    Just making sure. I worry about major.

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  • luciano 22 said...

    Gary Patterson -5 conference championships, 8 ten win seasons, 2010 Rose bowl champions and a #2 finish, 116–34 career record.

    Bobby Petrino - 2 Conference Championships, 4 ten win seasons, 2006 Orange bowl victory, Highest finish 2011 #5, 75 -26 career record.

    Reality.

    first year in a BCS conference and he is 7-4 took last week's texas choke to get there or he'd be staring 6-6 in the eyes, just never have thought much of his product on the field at TCU. that rose bowl win was one of the worst coaching performances I've ever seen. Why did a power running team decide to become pass happy in their bowl game? (Wisky) idk, i just don't believe all the hype on patterson

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  • GM- 8/9 win SEC head coach. That's really not terrible, but it's not what AU is looking for. Would be a bad hire

    Jimbo- I thought this was a better hire a month ago. I don't think he is going to get an offer from a big name school. At least, not this year. Very good recruiter though that was a big name before he went ot FSU.

    Petrino- Good coach, terrible PR nightmare. Like it or not, if he becomes your head coach it will seal AU's thuggish and out of control AD image. I think it that would be fine as though as long as you embrace it. Saying, look, we know he was a POS, but we are going to give him another chance and see what happens, is the way to go IMO. Trying to justify what he did would be a mistake.

    He is going to be a different kind of coach than AU is used to. His offense stops the clock and either scores quick or punts the ball quick. That means your defense will be playing the equivalent of 5 quarters in stead of 4 like most teams. That means that they are on the field longer. That means that they will give up more points, more yards, and not statistically be in the top int he country. It also means that you will need depth especially along the DL. That's the key in this league and you have to keep them fresh. When you are playing an extra quarter a week than everyone else it becomes even more important. He's also going to need an elite QB who can throw and make good decisions. He has struggled everywhere he has been without one. I would expect him to try and sign a JUCO QB to ease the transition. Without one, it might be two+ seasons til he can be competitive in the West.

    Fisher- Best name of the list, not happening at all though

    Fedora- Not sure about him

    Mora Jr.- West Coast guy, but a solid motivator and X's and O's coach.

    Patterson- Will stay in Texas, very good coach though

    **** If I was the AD I would have gotten back to power football. That is what is wining this league. You have t ask yourself if Petrino can be more successful that Spurrier. Because that is what he is going to have to do to win the West and the SEC. Petrino is probably the best option available at the moment though and at this point I don't think AU has much to lose in hiring him. It's hard to ruin their reputation of public opinion very much worse. I think you guys are going to have to give your defensive coordinators a break. It won't be their fault that you will give up more points and yards than a lot of other teams. Petrino's offense puts them behind the 8ball. But i have no doubt they will be sacrificed as the sacrificial lambs as soon as all knowing Bobby Petrino struggles his first two years. Good hire, not great, but he will have a chance at AU to prove he belongs in the elite category. At this point I do not believe he will be considered for that category anytime soon. We will see though.

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  • luciano 22 said...

    Isn't Petrino's signature win against Jim Grobe in the Orange bowl?

    What about giving Jim Grobe a call? I know his stock isn't the highest? He seems to have very well coached teams and never had a history of off the field issues.

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  • AUScoregasms said...

    Agreed, anyone that comes to the SEC running a base defense of 4-2-5 will get run off the field regularly

    South Carolina has done well with it.

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  • kitemac said...

    I want to get a feel for what other fans would think about a potential hire at Auburn. I don't care about off the field type stuff. Just purely on how you thing the coaches would do in the SEC against your team and other in conference. Basically tell me why this or that hire would concern you or you just love because you think it's a bad fit. Keep the opinions of if we could or if we should hire out of it. Just purely on how you think it would affect you guys. So the list would be:

    Gary Patterson gets atleast a call then...

    Sonny Dykes
    Todd Berry

    This post was edited by Crimson_Ghost on 11/28/2012 at 7:25 PM

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  • AUScoregasms said...

    Agreed, anyone that comes to the SEC running a base defense of 4-2-5 will get run off the field regularly

    you do realize that is basically Bama's nickle package, right ?

    and while the Tide list a base34 they run nickle more than not & i dont recall them being run on at all much less regularly. shrug
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  • To be honest with you the whole list is pretty much mediocre from my standpoint. I was telling a friend tonight, that there just isnt that slam dunk hire available. All these coaches are fine coaches but there isnt that curb appeal available right now. I know everyone has their opinions but I would rather take a non proven guy, (coordinator from the NFL or college, maybe even another coach at a small school) and give him a shot. If you were to hire the biggest name on that list and he backfired, that would send the fan base into a direct nose dive for hopelessness. If the unproven guy fails then there are greener pastures and it was so called "expected" anyways. Whether any AU fan admits it, they are in a tough position right now with all their rival schools having such great success and there they are right smack dab in the middle of them.

    The Truth67011

  • AUScoregasms said...

    first year in a BCS conference and he is 7-4 took last week's texas choke to get there or he'd be staring 6-6 in the eyes, just never have thought much of his product on the field at TCU. that rose bowl win was one of the worst coaching performances I've ever seen. Why did a power running team decide to become pass happy in their bowl game? (Wisky) idk, i just don't believe all the hype on patterson

    not really fair to look at the record this year...their star QB decided to go full retard after the 4th game and was dismissed from the team. He's been playing a frosh at QB ever since...the guy can flat coach.

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  • Strong. That's the only name Awburn needs to go after besides Patrino.

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  • luciano 22 said...

    Gary Patterson -5 conference championships, 8 ten win seasons, 2010 Rose bowl champions and a #2 finish, 116–34 career record.

    Bobby Petrino - 2 Conference Championships, 4 ten win seasons, 2006 Orange bowl victory, Highest finish 2011 #5, 75 -26 career record.

    Reality.

    I would rather have a coach that has proven himself in BCS conferences.

    Dan Hawkins was very successful at Boise St. Now he does radio and cameos in a couple shows on ESPN.

    For every Urban Meyer that makes the move from a non-AQ conference to a BCS conference, there are many that fail. I would just like to see Patterson have somewhat near the same success in the Big12 before I put him on the same level as Petrino. So far he is looking at a 7 win season and a possible losing record in the Big12 unless TCU can beat Oklahoma.

    BetterOff