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9 months ago

BetterOff said...
His numbers are wrong brah. Look it up.

Yeah.
Posted it before I saw harbinaters.
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9 months ago

BetterOff said...
Top to Bottom (using conference rankings with a tie breaker being overall record from last year)
Okie St-----Wisconsin----Oregon----LSU----Clemson= LSU (easy choice) Kan St----MSU----Stanford----Alabama----Va Tech= Alabama (easy choice) Baylor----Michigan----USC----Georgia----FSU= USC (not as easy, but I think sort of obvious) OU----Penn St----Washington----Arkansas----UVA= Arkansas (easy choice) Mizzou----Nebraska----UCLA----S. Carolina----Ga Tech= S. Carolina (easy choice) Texas----Purdue----Cal----Auburn----W. Forest= Texas (slight edge probably) aTm----Iowa----Arizona St----Florida----NC State= toss up between aTm, Iowa, and Florida, IMO Iowa St----tOSU----Utah----Miss St----Miami= toss up between tOSU and Miss St, IMO Texas Tech----Northwestern----Oregon St----Vandy----UNC= Vandy (slightly ahead of NW last season) Kansas----Illinois----Wash St----Kentucky----BC= I am not picking, but I am eliminating Kansas and Wash St. Minnesota----Arizona----Tennessee----Duke= Tennessee (Best of the garbage, especially with Bray) Indiana----Colorado----Ole Miss----Maryland= Everyone too crappy to pick
When I look at last year, I think it goes SEC, PAC12, Big12, B1G, ACC.

did you really put Wake Forest in our league?
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9 months ago

BetterOff said...
Explain how Vandy would have gotten killed.
Florida squeaked by Vandy last year and beat tOSU. If Vandy and tOSU played last year 10 times, Vandy wins between 3 and 5 of them. Not to mention Vandy destroyed the team that finished one game back of Clemson in their division....the same Wake Forest that beat FSU.

Because Ohio State has about 30x the talent Vandy does.
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9 months ago

BetterOff said...
I wonder how much tOSU and Va Tech sucking it up against top opponents has killed the B1G and ACC records alone.

removing va tech wouldn't help acc at all in total (8-8), would a little in top 25 (4-8), and not that much in top 10 , despite the record (1-5) (acc is so bad here it would only go up to .333 win% as opposed to the current .267).
removing osu would really hurt the bigten in the total (18-12), would still hurt the bigten in the top 25 (7-6), and actually would do nothing for the top 10, despite the 2-5 record (.256 would actually stay exactly .256).
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maize&blue21 said...
Because Ohio State has about 30x the talent Vandy does.

Vandy comes to the Shoe in 2013.
I'd be more than happy to make a wager with BetterOff.
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9 months ago

devidee said...
Yeah.
Posted it before I saw harbinaters.

I still found the article interesting. I am with Harbinater. The differences in the conferences isn't that great. The SEC has been on top for a run now, but the other conferences are right there as well. The last few years the B1G has been bad, mainly because of Michigan, then tOSU last season...along with Iowa not staying at the level they were, but I think this year is going to be a strong year for the B1G. Michigan, Wisconsin, MSU, and tOSU all have a chance to be around or above the 10 win mark and Nebraska could supride people and get there as well. If MSU can take up the slack for Penn St going bye bye and stay at the top even with Michigan's return, the conference should do well.
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devidee said...
Vandy comes to the Shoe in 2013.
I'd be more than happy to make a wager with BetterOff.

The comparison was for 2011 only. Remember, you said I'm not stupid about a week ago.
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9 months ago

CptAUmerica21 said...
did you really put Wake Forest in our league?

Auburn's league? You say that like Auburn is more than a mediocre team without Cam.
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maize&blue21 said...
Because Ohio State has about 30x the talent Vandy does.

That talent didn't do much for them last year though. Talent with bad coaching and a struggling QB doesn't get you far. I never said Vandy was more talented last year, but if you look at the season, no way 2011 tOSU blows out Vandy and Vandy could have pulled off the win.
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BetterOff said...
That talent didn't do much for them last year though. Talent with bad coaching and a struggling QB doesn't get you far. I never said Vandy was more talented last year, but if you look at the season, no way 2011 tOSU blows out Vandy and Vandy could have pulled off the win.

If Braxton Miller had started the whole season at OSU, they would have won at least 8 games. I guarantee you Vandy would not have moved the ball against OSU and all OSU would have to do is just run the ball down Vandy's throat.
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maize&blue21 said...
Auburn's league? You say that like Auburn is more than a mediocre team without Cam.

And in what world can Michigan talk in?
Not this one.
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CptAUmerica21 said...
did you really put Wake Forest in our league?

I just lined up the conference standings top to bottom. Obviously I would think Auburn was better since they beat UVA that finished ahead of WF.
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MrWoodson said...
The stats clearly show the SEC is not better top to bottom. But what they also show is, at least over the past six years, the SEC has been consistently better at the very top. IMO LSU was the best team in the country last year. Alabama should not have been in the title game (that is where the bias came in), but last year does not change the fact that the best team from the SEC beat the best team from the B10, P12 and B12 in the five BCSCGs prior to that. Until someone knocks off the best SEC team in a high profile game, the general perception of SEC superiority will continue. And we only have ourselves to blame.

What say ye B1Gs about the discrepancy against the SEC in bowl matchups? Like B1G Co-Champ playing SEC #5 (Sec West #4) and getting beaten by 42? Or that those records were compiled with teams ranked higher within their own conference than the SEC teams? I mean, if you eek out a win over the SEC #6 and you're the B12 #2 or #3, did you just disprove the quality of the SEC?
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maize&blue21 said...
If Braxton Miller had started the whole season at OSU, they would have won at least 8 games. I guarantee you Vandy would not have moved the ball against OSU and all OSU would have to do is just run the ball down Vandy's throat.

Dude just stop. You just went full retard. Vandy isn't Vandy anymore. The only two teams in the SEC that are HORRIBLE are Kentucky and Ole Miss.
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BetterOff said...
I just lined up the conference standings top to bottom. Obviously I would think Auburn was better since they beat UVA that finished ahead of WF.

Didn't notice... I just saw Wake and AU and was like "com'on man"
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Since the inception of the BCS, the SEC has been crowned national champion 57.14 percent of the time. That's a stunning turnaround when compared with an undisputed national title rate of 10.42 percent over the half-century prior.
This statement says all I need to know about this guys credibility.. he gives a percentage of the BCS era and then goes on to talk about the last 50 years?
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rolBAMAballs said...
how much do you think vandy loses by?

In the 14-17 range.
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CptAUmerica21 said...
And in what world can Michigan talk in?
Not this one.

The one where Michigan has the most wins and went 11-2 last season. You guys keep doing your thing though, squeaking out wins against average opponents and getting blown out by good teams.
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CptAUmerica21 said...
Dude just stop. You just went full retard. Vandy isn't Vandy anymore. The only two teams in the SEC that are HORRIBLE are Kentucky and Ole Miss.

No, if I went full retard I would have said that Auburn is a good team.
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maize&blue21 said...
If Braxton Miller had started the whole season at OSU, they would have won at least 8 games. I guarantee you Vandy would not have moved the ball against OSU and all OSU would have to do is just run the ball down Vandy's throat.

Vandy's run defense was better than tOSU's last season and considering that Vandy had 199 yards rushing against a very good UGA defense I don't think they would have had a problem against tOSU on offense.
Considering Penn St, who averaged the same rushing yard per game as Vandy put up 239 yards, Florida who averaged 30 yards less, put up 141 yards, and Miami, who averaged 21 yards less than Vandy put up 240 yards, I don't think you can say Vandy wouldn't be able to move the ball.
Vandy had an outstanding RB last year in Zac Stacy.
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Vandy's run defense was better than tOSU's last season and considering that Vandy had 199 yards rushing against a very good UGA defense I don't think they would have had a problem against tOSU on offense.
Considering Penn St, who averaged the same rushing yard per game as Vandy put up 239 yards, Florida who averaged 30 yards less, put up 141 yards, and Miami, who averaged 21 yards less than Vandy put up 240 yards, I don't think you can say Vandy wouldn't be able to move the ball.
Vandy had an outstanding RB last year in Zac Stacy.

Transitive property argument?
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maize&blue21 said...
No, if I went full retard I would have said that Auburn is a good team.

Auburn have more National Championships in the last 60 years must really sting then.
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devidee said...
Transitive property argument?

Just to show that tOSU wouldn't have steamrolled them, not to show tha Vandy would win. I think tBB handbook says you can use transitive property to show a game wouldn't be a blowout, but you can't use it to show who would win.
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Auburn have more National Championships in the last 60 years must really sting then.

lulz.
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