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  • azvalleybuckeye said...

    You're so uneducated on this topic it is almost comical.

    The "AR-15" 'NATO' round is a .223.

    For your own reference before you call people "uneducated"

    Dumb Dumb. Lol.

    .223 Remington vs. 5.56 NATO - TheFirearmsForum.Com

    .223 Remington vs. 5.56 NATO Technical Questions Information

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  • rms02d said...

    Lol.

    It was designed to "wound" with the use of a full metal jacket round. Unfortunately what it was designed for and the way it works are two different things

    In testing it oscillates, yaws and cavitates, so the damage from a .223 round is devastating. It "wounds" because it goes through the front and back with a full metal jacket bullet.

    Also the .223 Remington and the Nato round are not the same. Maybe you could research that and educate me.

    But yeah Im uneducated.

    Also, I thought using "Machine Guns" in quotes made it clear that it wasn't my terminology. Lol. Your missing my point while failing to educate me about ballistics.

    you HAVE to be slow.

    The PROJECTILE is the same as a .22LR. The difference is velocity. The "NATO" round you speak of is a 5.56x45.

    You tell me, gun expert, which was a 22LR and which was this dreaded NATO round.

    Do you know the definition of projectile? The difference in them is not full metal jacket.. it is a rim fire round and a centerfire round. You are F'ng clueless.

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  • azvalleybuckeye said...

    you HAVE to be slow.

    The PROJECTILE is the same as a .22LR. The difference is velocity. The "NATO" round you speak of is a 5.56x45.

    You tell me, gun expert, which was a 22LR and which was this dreaded NATO round.

    Do you know the definition of projectile? The difference in them is not full metal jacket.. it is a rim fire round and a centerfire round. You are F'ng clueless.

    Not going to take a lecture about guns from someone that tells me the .223 Remington is the same as the NATO round.

    Posting a photo telling me to differentiate the size of a .223 vs .22 hole in a sheet of paper is pretty silly also.

    What happens once each bullet goes thru the paper and into human tissue?

    This post was edited by rms02d on 3/21/2013 at 12:35 AM

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  • rms02d said...

    For your own reference before you call people "uneducated"

    Dumb Dumb. Lol.

    dee dee dee. as I said, the velocity is different, NOT the projectile.

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  • rms02d said...

    Not going to take a lecture about guns from someone that tells me the .223 Remington is the same as the NATO round.

    deflect, deflect! designed to kill!!!

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  • rms02d said...

    Not going to take a lecture about guns from someone that tells me the .223 Remington is the same as the NATO round.

    Posting a photo telling me to differentiate the size of a .223 vs .22 hole in a sheet of paper is pretty silly also.

    What happens once each bullet goes thru the paper and into human tissue?

    I'd rather be hit by the dreaded NATO round than a .22 magnum.

    Doubt that you'd understand, but not surprised that you don't.

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  • azvalleybuckeye said...

    The "AR-15" 'NATO' round is a .223.

    ^^^^^This is what we are arguing about. The .22 Magnum is completely different than a .22 LR so I fail to see why you bring that into this discussion

    Nobody is arguing about the difference in size between a .22 and .223 projectile. The NATO round and the .223 Remington are different rounds. The casings are slightly different, but the Projectile is the same.

    You contradicted that, hence my response.

    This is a stupid thread.

    rms02d

  • rms02d said...

    ^^^^^This is what we are arguing about. The .22 Magnum is completely different than a .22 LR so I fail to see why you bring that into this discussion

    Nobody is arguing about the difference in size between a .22 and .223 projectile. The NATO round and the .223 Remington are different rounds. The casings are slightly different, but the Projectile is the same.

    You contradicted that, hence my response.

    This is a stupid thread.

    I said they have different velocities. They are ALL a .22 caliber projectile.

    I would rather be hit with the dreaded NATO round than the lower velocity .22 magnum.. dwarfed by your .22lr even.

    BTW the dimensions of a .223 and the 5.56 are the same, the difference in the casings comes into play with cylinder walls to handle the higher pressure. (higher velocity)

    edit: for someone as slow as yourself, I should have specified that by cylinder walls difference. the 5.56 is thicker internally, as I said, the actual external dimensions are the same

    This post was edited by azvalleybuckeye on 3/21/2013 at 1:03 AM

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  • azvalleybuckeye said...

    You're so uneducated on this topic it is almost comical.

    The "AR-15" 'NATO' round is a .223. It is NOT designed to kill humans, it is designed to wound. As I said, the actual projectile is the same as a .22.. so no, YOU don't be stupid.

    Idc why someone equally as uneducated as you call the cops. Aurora and Sandy hook "assault rifles" were not "machine guns" they were semi-auto .223 rifles. (never left the car in sandy hook)

    Actually the NATO round is the 5.56. Which is almost identical to the .223 but not.

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  • the difference between the two is not in the projectile itself, but the casing (and the seating of the projectile)

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  • shavisimo2 said...

    If you think that's splitting hairs, then I don't know what to tell you. Posting something like "Republicans/Democrats are terrible" has the consequence of a stupid facebook argument. Posting a child with a gun has a reasonable chance to end with the police investigating. That's not splitting hairs.

    Why does it matter what type of gun it is? He's not looking down the barrel, or handling it in an unsafe condition...

    Holding a gun, does not warrant a police investigation in anyway...

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  • OHSethIO said...

    Holding a gun, does not warrant a police investigation in anyway...

    you would think, right?

    the worst part about it is that while tacitly, we have these rights, the rampant revocation of these rights through "felony" convictions is staggering.

    states constantly expand felony classifications to include more and more things, which then creates a revocation of these rights.

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