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shavisimo2 said...
Yep. The defense would call them as character witnesses only and ask them the questions like: "How long did you know him?" "how did you know him?" "In that time, did he have a reputation for honesty?"
That's about it. If they call them, he won't ask them anything more than those simple questions because he doesn't want them saying anything more. But I doubt he wants them on the stand at all. I would never call a witness for my side if I thought the witness could end up crying on the stand against my client. Especially an elderly woman.
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It came out in the original story actually. Joe recieved a vague story from McQuery - where Mike was not at all specific in what he told Joe - he then met with two people - his boss Tim Curley, and Gary Schultz - he's the Director of Campus Police. Penn State policy is to report to him any legal issues that occur on campus that revolve around PSU employees. He told them what Mike told them, and then told them to meet with McQuery himself later on. When McQuery testified, he said talking to Schultz was like talking to the DA.
Mike and Joe did what they should have...Penn State failed them, just like they failed the children.
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to be clear, Schultz is not a Cop...he MANAGES the cops. It's like you or me walking up the director of corporate security, and telling them of a crime you thought you witnessed.
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Defend the guy all you want. Did Joe Pa report it directly to his boss? You bet he did. That one instance, he is in the legal clear in my book. He did what he legally should have
Here in lies the issue. These allegations were around for at least what 10 years about Sandusky? And guess who stayed around campus? Guess who was given access to the FOOTBALL facilities? Sandusky.
Don't give me the bs about being emetrius status at penn state. Go use the the Rec center showers for your little fun. Because Joe Paterno had the absolute power to quietly tell Jerry Sandusky don't you f'in step a foot near my football program and guess what there is no way Sandysky would have been anywhere near that program
In my opinion Joe knew something. He knew Sandusky allegedly molested little boys. And if you aren't 100% certain these accusations are false and you have no legal obligations to Sandusky, then cut him loose
Joe Pa may have done the 'right' thing legally but unless someone shows evidence otherwise that Sandusky may have been falsely accused, Joe Pa was absolutely wrong morally 100 out of 100 times. He could have done way more and therefore IMO he deserved his firing
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getmyjive11 said...
It doesn't matter what power you think Paterno had, you are wrong. Over the last 10-12 years Paterno did not have the power he once had. Spanier and the BOT took control of everything except the football program. Jerry's access to facilities (including the football facilities) fell outside the football program's control.
You can believe whatever you want, but don't be pissed off when PSU fans tell you that you don't know what you are talking about.
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I really don't have a huge problem with what JoPa did. I have more of a problem with the people he did report it to. Only thing more JoPa could have done was to tell the board either he is never allowed on campus or I walk and tell me story to the media. Puts him in a tough spot though if he wasn't sure exactly what happened though.
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It doesn't matter what power you think Paterno had, you are wrong. Over the last 10-12 years Paterno did not have the power he once had. Spanier and the BOT took control of everything except the football program. Jerry's access to facilities (including the football facilities) fell outside the football program's control.
You can believe whatever you want, but don't be pissed off when PSU fans tell you that you don't know what you are talking about.
This post was edited by Phil Brikma on 6/5/2012 at 9:55 PM
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Defend the guy all you want. Did Joe Pa report it directly to his boss? You bet he did. That one instance, he is in the legal clear in my book. He did what he legally should have
Here in lies the issue. These allegations were around for at least what 10 years about Sandusky? And guess who stayed around campus? Guess who was given access to the FOOTBALL facilities? Sandusky.
Don't give me the bs about being emetrius status at penn state. Go use the the Rec center showers for your little fun. Because Joe Paterno had the absolute power to quietly tell Jerry Sandusky don't you f'in step a foot near my football program and guess what there is no way Sandysky would have been anywhere near that program
In my opinion Joe knew something. He knew Sandusky allegedly molested little boys. And if you aren't 100% certain these accusations are false and you have no legal obligations to Sandusky, then cut him loose
Joe Pa may have done the 'right' thing legally but unless someone shows evidence otherwise that Sandusky may have been falsely accused, Joe Pa was absolutely wrong morally 100 out of 100 times. He could have done way more and therefore IMO he deserved his firing
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SIAP but the Paterno's are defense witnesses for Sandusky?