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  • bhiley77 said...

    Yeah, academic snobbery is huge out here. My co-workers love to remind me they went to prestigious schools and I love to remind them I paid a fraction as much to go to Bama and we ended up with the same job -- somehow it doesn't shut them up though.

    Are you the geologist?

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  • Alonzo Harris said...

    Agreed, but the prestige of that degree helped bring those kids to Stanford.

    Lots of kids out west care what kind of weight their degree holds.

    Not just out West...ask Nelson Agholor and Lamar Dawson how important academics were to their decision...to name a few OOS guys.

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  • bhiley77 said...

    No, I work for a top tech company.

    Nice.

    Hmm...damn. Now I'm going to be bothered by who that guy is that is the geologist..where is that degree thread...

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  • zabba said...

    While Peat and Murphy are two guys I'd love to have at USC, too many guys here simply don't take advantage of the education they receive. We only graduate around 60% while Stanford is in the 80% range.

    I don't kid myself thinking a lot of these guys want their degrees. There should be some sort of minor league system as an alternative to college for breeding future NFLers.

    Didn't Pat Haden just say that all but one senior was due to graduate in the fall? I know Khalid Holmes will receive his masters in the fall.

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Yeah, academic snobbery is huge out here. My co-workers love to remind me they went to prestigious schools and I love to remind them I paid a fraction as much to go to Bama and we ended up with the same job -- somehow it doesn't shut them up though.

    Bama is a good school.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Nice.

    Hmm...damn. Now I'm going to be bothered by who that guy is that is the geologist..where is that degree thread...

    I don't know how he did it. I'm taking geology and it is the most boring class I have ever taken. Ever. The lecture today was on ground water. fingergun

    zabba

  • bhiley77 said...

    No it's not. I mean, sure, Bama and all schools are good IMO, but to folks who brag about their rankings and 18% acceptance rates and all the other things you pretend make people smarter when they graduate it's not good at all.

    No, not all schools are good...and I seriously question the competitive nature of an intelligent individual that does not wish to be surrounded in the classroom by the top minds in the country. Alabama is a good school, not elite, but good. USC is not elite, but it is a very good school.

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  • zabba said...

    I don't know how he did it. I'm taking geology and it is the most boring class I have ever taken. Ever. The lecture today was on ground water. fingergun

    His job didn't sound boring, but I can only imagine how stimulating the classes must have been...

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    Didn't Pat Haden just say that all but one senior was due to graduate in the fall? I know Khalid Holmes will receive his masters in the fall.

    That could be true, but the GSR for the class of 2012 won't be out for another seven years. I was referencing the latest numbers.

    USC is at 57%, an eight point drop from last year iirc. Certainly not good enough IMO.

    zabba

  • usctrojan1 said...

    No, not all schools are good...and I seriously question the competitive nature of an intelligent individual that does not wish to be surrounded in the classroom by the top minds in the country. Alabama is a good school, not elite, but good. USC is not elite, but it is a very good school.

    Yes sir. Well said

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  • BetterOff said...

    Don't leave UCLA going the wrong way. You'll run into much worse. That's the school with a fence around it and limited access.

    Which way would that be? The road that takes you to the freeway? Or the one that takes you to Beverly Hills? Or the path of destruction known as West Hollywood? I guess if you go down the freeway a bit, you end up in Santa Monica and eventually Malibu where things get really rough...

    USC is surrounded by the ghetto. Nice campus, great athletics, amazing education, but surrounded by the ghetto. And yes, it's surrounded by an iron fence in parts. I think it's an amazing school, but question how familiar you are with the campus...

    Edit: just read that you were joking. If that is the case then I take back my demeaning post, but I'll leave it up for now to make myself look like a smart douche.

    This post was edited by VegasTide on 11/3/2012 at 2:46 AM

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    I never said other universities do not have good academics or former players not being loyal to their alma mater anywhere else...but YOU PEOPLE are the ones that are always yapping about your game day atmosphere being soooo far superior, how much you live and die over football, and how recruits will be swayed by that atmosphere to commit to your university. Football is your religion, after all...the west coast could care less..

    In spite of our supposed "laid back" and insipid regard for football...as y'all claim, our players are just as ardently loyal - if not more, to their alma mater, "crappy bandwagon" fans and all.

    What do you mean, "You people"?

    VegasTide

  • Alonzo Harris said...

    Agreed, but the prestige of that degree helped bring those kids to Stanford.

    Lots of kids out west care what kind of weight their degree holds.

    I don't know if I put as much stock in that thought. If you are a California kid that is going to stay, the top programs in football also have great academics. Going to Stanford or USC is a great choice for football reasons....and it just happens to be for academic reasons as well. I think it goes both ways for a lot of kids. It would be stupid to go to San Diego St if you could play football at USC, Stanford, Cal, or UCLA, which all happen to be much better schools.

    BetterOff

  • bhiley77 said...

    Yeah, academic snobbery is huge out here. My co-workers love to remind me they went to prestigious schools and I love to remind them I paid a fraction as much to go to Bama and we ended up with the same job -- somehow it doesn't shut them up though.

    Yea, I love it too. I graduated from Auburn @ Montgomery (yup, sister school to the AU) and I work for a large tech company and over see millions of dollars in projects and manage many people, directly and functionally-all of them with "superior" degrees.

    Hahahaahahhahhahaahahha I scoff at your school-it means nothing to me. Know what I look for when hiring or choosing project teams? Chemistry, knowledge and the ability to adapt and think outside the box- I NEVER ask them where they went to school. Means nothing to me. They can either do the job or not.

    To me obtaining a degree just shows you know how to listen, learn and take tests. I could " care even less" where you did that at.

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  • VegasTide said...

    What do you mean, "You people"?

    I see what you did there. Tayback says hi

    viper_36

  • VegasTide said...

    What do you mean, "You people"?

    The exact same thing "y'all" means.

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  • viper_36 said...

    Yea, I love it too. I graduated from Auburn @ Montgomery (yup, sister school to the AU) and I work for a large tech company and over see millions of dollars in projects and manage many people, directly and functionally-all of them with "superior" degrees.

    Hahahaahahhahhahaahahha I scoff at your school-it means nothing to me. Know what I look for when hiring or choosing project teams? Chemistry, knowledge and the ability to adapt and think outside the box- I NEVER ask them where they went to school. Means nothing to me. They can either do the job or not.

    To me obtaining a degree just shows you know how to listen, learn and take tests. I could " care even less" where you did that at.

    I believe you mean "couldn't care less"

    The last 15 years of my working career, I worked for a Trojan owned company. When I was offered the position, so many years ago...the owner took me out to lunch at a French restaurant and asked me, before the first course..."how much money will it take for me to steal you away?" At the time, I was working two jobs; one of which I could do from home on call..my youngest daughter required extensive and costly medical care, and I wanted her to have the very best care possible. I earned a very nice salary in that second job. The owners knew this, they offered me a combination of both salaries and told me they never wanted me to "have to work two jobs again."

    Such is the Trojan Family networking. It is certainly very powerful in California, but there are strong and active Trojan Clubs on seven continents in the world, and contacts are far reaching, if you wish to use them.

    Many people out there think that the $44,000 tuition fee is hefty...and it is, if you have to pay it. USC has a larger graduate student population (21,000) the undergrad is smaller (17,000)...and the foreign student population is the largest in the country. THEY are the ones that pay the hefty tuition, which allows the university to offer a very good financial package to the rest of us, in many cases, better than the California public schools.

    Certainly, there are employers, and people in charge of hiring, that are not impressed by the university name on the diploma...but so many more are.

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Right, and it doesn't work this way ANYWHERE ELSE but USC. Classic USC mentality on display here.

    Sensitive are we? Where did I state it never happens anywhere else? You people show up for football games, we show up for each other...we're widely known for it. It's all in degrees, isn't it?

    "In his book titled Dig Your Well Before You're Thirsty: The Only Networking Book You'll Ever Need, Harvey MacKay states: "From the day you graduate, the USC network is there for you. In my opinion, the USC alumni network is the tightest, most effective, and most closed to non-initiates of any alumni network in the country."

    Fortune Magazine also listed USC #2 top networking colleges in the country.

    But, that is just an expert/lecturer on networking and a financial publication.

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Of course. No other school has alumni networks. I thought I already agreed with you on this?

    Every school in the country has alumni networking, some are simply stronger than others...with a very few known for the degree and power of that networking.

    Stanford grads say they don't need a strong alumni network, they're Stanford grads, that is enough. Can't really disagree...and I'm not going to challenge that or cry about it..after all, the implication is that Trojans NEED that strong network.

    Again, Bama is a good school, and in some cases, a better choice than USC depending on your major. That holds true for any university in the country.

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    It is certainly very powerful in California, but there are strong and active Trojan Clubs on seven continents in the world, and contacts are far reaching, if you wish to use them.

    There's a Trojan Club on Antarctica?

    Amazing!

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  • BetterOff said...

    There's a Trojan Club on Antarctica?

    Amazing!

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  • NPS13 said...

    I know his name gets thrown around often for top notch jobs, but.... After a NC this year, and Kiffin sucking next year, USC will can him. USC is a powerfull place, wear pockets run deep. Nick seems like a guy who loves challenges, after dominating the SEC, & USC needing a coach, they will go after Saban. It would be his last hurrah, and he would come to USC. Off sanctions, the challenge would be to.rebuild the mess Kiffin left. I could see it, LA is 10xx the place Tuscaloosa is, it would be an offer to good for Nick to turn down.

    fishing

    lol
    chiznik is available...i'm sure tollner, smith...hell, john robinson 3rd time around.

    cns would love to work near compton.

    hubcitytider

  • bhiley77 said...

    It's better then any other school's representation in Antartica, hands down. Magazines agree. USC grads OWN the south pole, ask anybody.

    Wouldn't surprise me.

    Maybe that will help their Winter Olympic athlete production. The Trojans are lacking in medalists from the Winter Olympics.

    BetterOff

  • usctrojan1 said...

    I believe you mean "couldn't care less"

    The last 15 years of my working career, I worked for a Trojan owned company. When I was offered the position, so many years ago...the owner took me out to lunch at a French restaurant and asked me, before the first course..."how much money will it take for me to steal you away?" At the time, I was working two jobs; one of which I could do from home on call..my youngest daughter required extensive and costly medical care, and I wanted her to have the very best care possible. I earned a very nice salary in that second job. The owners knew this, they offered me a combination of both salaries and told me they never wanted me to "have to work two jobs again."

    Such is the Trojan Family networking. It is certainly very powerful in California, but there are strong and active Trojan Clubs on seven continents in the world, and contacts are far reaching, if you wish to use them.

    Many people out there think that the $44,000 tuition fee is hefty...and it is, if you have to pay it. USC has a larger graduate student population (21,000) the undergrad is smaller (17,000)...and the foreign student population is the largest in the country. THEY are the ones that pay the hefty tuition, which allows the university to offer a very good financial package to the rest of us, in many cases, better than the California public schools.

    Certainly, there are employers, and people in charge of hiring, that are not impressed by the university name on the diploma...but so many more are.

    Great story, wish you all the best.

    yup, making a joke (we have a BOLisms dictionary which is what i was referring to).

    btw, some of the worst employees i have seen come from so called "Prestigious Universities"... not all of them, but some of the worst. they come in with this entitlement, i'm smarter, i went here, i from there, and you are just a dumb ass hick from the south. quickly, they learn otherwise and those little rings and diplomas means jack $hi% in the real world.

    again, wish you the best and i'm glad you found employment you don't have to do two jobs to make it.

    However - it's not all class rings and alumni parties out there - and people who live by that, have a very restrictive network - i'd rather network with professionals within my technical community - it's very extensive.

    viper_36

  • I'd rather live in Compton than Tuscaloosa.

    Tornados don't roll through Compton on a yearly basis and the property values are double.

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