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  • Discussing technology in 2013 is generally split between people who's minds clicked over and they now, to some extent, "get" exponential and global thinking. For however long man has existed our minds have observed and therefore operated on linear/local and now that is shifting. It may take three more generations before everyone "gets" global/exponential.

    I actually remember when I was 9 years old my dad was explaining and issue to me and he said, "if a jar is filled with an entity that replicates itself individually every second how long is it before the jar is completely full". I said it would be one second before. He then asked how long before the jar is totally full would be people be concerned but still comfortable? I said likely 2 seconds before when the jar is only 1/4th full. That was when my mind shifted and I understood global/exponential.

    Most people I know think in 10 years their "phone" will still be a box they keep in their pocket. It's not that they are dumb, their mind just doesnt get it.

    This post was edited by fsufsu on 2/15/2013 at 4:25 PM

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  • Google.

    Google will reportedly open its own retail stores starting this year | The Verge

    Its retail stores have proven extraordinarily beneficial for the company, and it looks like Google may be getting into the game now as well. 9to5Google is reporting that the...

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  • The Doak said...

    Google.

    I would definitely shop there.

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  • The Doak said...

    If like some education on something. Why doesn't the private sector already control space and the like? What's the downside to them controlling it if any?

    You would want NASA to be a for profit business? Who's mission would be to focus on margins? And eventually turn itself into a race to the bottom instead of race to the moon? ... No thanks. Besides if this program were expanded it would create all kinds of private business. Every government agency and project involves private consultants who manage the projects and make the materials etc. That money in turn is spent on other goods such as housing, groceries, clothes you name it. Let services that are designed for public purpose to remain public.

    dgoz

  • dgoz said...

    You would want NASA to be a for profit business? Who's mission would be to focus on margins? And eventually turn itself into a race to the bottom instead of race to the moon? ... No thanks. Besides if this program were expanded it would create all kinds of private business. Every government agency and project involves private consultants who manage the projects and make the materials etc. That money in turn is spent on other goods such as housing, groceries, clothes you name it. Let services that are designed for public purpose to remain public.

    I think there's room for both. Some missions interest private companies more than they do NASA (e.g. space mining for minerals), while others interest NASA more than private companies (e.g. deep space exploration, lunar trips etc.). No reason both can't co-exist.

    NASA shouldn't be privatized though, if that's want you meant.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    I think there's room for both. Some missions interest private companies more than they do NASA (e.g. space mining for minerals), while others interest NASA more than private companies (e.g. deep space exploration, lunar trips etc.). No reason both can't co-exist.

    NASA shouldn't be privatized though, if that's want you meant.

    Yes, that's what I meant, but perhaps I misinterpreted Doak's original comment. Good points and interesting thread.

    dgoz

  • If I was the Prez I'd push for massive drawbacks on defense spending, demanding that the military streamline their spending procedures which as of now make as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. Then 4-5 billion of that would go to NASA and 2-3 Billion would go to 5-6 major companies in grants/0 interest loans/etc.

    SpaceX, Lockheed Martin, Whoever leaps out in front of 3D printing, etc.

    fsufsu

  • DOA but interesting look at possible policy change, especially if Dems take back the House in 2014.

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  • In terms of energy and carbon issues I truly believe by 2025 we will have truly scalable, outstanding solar as well as fully functioning fourth generation nuclear. Coupled with the conservation of the Enernet and we will be good to go.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    In terms of energy and carbon issues I truly believe by 2025 we will have truly scalable, outstanding solar as well as fully functioning fourth generation nuclear. Coupled with the conservation of the Enernet and we will be good to go.

    If energy policy was introduced as economic policy, everyone would see it as a no-brainer. Transitioning to a low-carbon economy while exporting fossil fuels to developing countries is as easy it gets. Turning a trade deficit into a trade surplus; divesting ourselves from the Middle East and other countries that would then take away leverage in foreign policy; reducing externalities that would save lives and money; creating a new industry that can revive manufacturing and be our next variable in economic success a la industrialization in the 1800s, technology in the 1900s, software and Internet in the late 1900s etc.

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  • fsufsu said...

    If I was the Prez I'd push for massive drawbacks on defense spending, demanding that the military streamline their spending procedures which as of now make as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. Then 4-5 billion of that would go to NASA and 2-3 Billion would go to 5-6 major companies in grants/0 interest loans/etc.

    SpaceX, Lockheed Martin, Whoever leaps out in front of 3D printing, etc.

    you really wouldn't need massive military budget cuts to divert 23 billion.

    I used to be all for cuts to the military, but in today's economic climate I don't think it wise. If and when shit ever hits the fan, the ultimate truth is might. Might can take what it needs and wants. May not be wise to sacrifice American might.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    you really wouldn't need massive military budget cuts to divert 23 billion.

    I used to be all for cuts to the military, but in today's economic climate I don't think it wise. If and when shit ever hits the fan, the ultimate truth is might. Might can take what it needs and wants. May not be wise to sacrifice American might.

    We can gradually phase military spending over to infrastructure spending and still keep our decided military advantage. Hell, we could cut over $100 billion in military spending and still spend more than the rest of the top 10 countries COMBINED.

    List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

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  • CMXI said...

    We can gradually phase military spending over to infrastructure spending and still keep our decided military advantage. Hell, we could cut over $100 billion in military spending and still spend more than the rest of the top 10 countries COMBINED.

    the problem with cost comparisons. Is that our shit costs more than other countries shit. Labor costs are higher, profit margin's for industry are higher, etc...

    Military spending has an enormous room for improvements at every level though. We should be getting more proverbial bang for our buck.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Military spending has an enormous room for improvements at every level though. We should be getting more proverbial bang for our buck.

    I rarely agree with things on tBB as much as I agree with this statement. The amount of waste/bill-padding when it comes to US military spending is just astronomical. We can joke about the military spending $900 on a stapler, but it just gets depressing when you realize that we're all paying for that excessively expensive stapler.

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  • CMXI said...

    I rarely agree with things on tBB as much as I agree with this statement. The amount of waste/bill-padding when it comes to US military spending is just astronomical. We can joke about the military spending $900 on a stapler, but it just gets depressing when you realize that we're all paying for that excessively expensive stapler.

    When I was in the Army, I remember having to go shoot off a bunch of ammo and shit at the end of the fiscal year, just so the battalion would get the same money to spend on it the next year. Ridiculous.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    When I was in the Army, I remember having to go shoot off a bunch of ammo and shit at the end of the fiscal year, just so the battalion would get the same money to spend on it the next year. Ridiculous.

    The "use it or lose it" budget mentality is just beyond ridiculous.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    you really wouldn't need massive military budget cuts to divert 23 billion.

    I used to be all for cuts to the military, but in today's economic climate I don't think it wise. If and when shit ever hits the fan, the ultimate truth is might. Might can take what it needs and wants. May not be wise to sacrifice American might.

    We currently spend 714 billion a year on defense. That number needs to get closer to 400 ASAP.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    We currently spend 714 billion a year on defense. That number needs to get closer to 400 ASAP.

    Ehh...

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    When I was in the Army, I remember having to go shoot off a bunch of ammo and shit at the end of the fiscal year, just so the battalion would get the same money to spend on it the next year. Ridiculous.

    Wow...

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  • fsufsu said...

    We currently spend 714 billion a year on defense. That number needs to get closer to 400 ASAP.

    If we just start cutting, it'll have a horrible effect on the economy. I think we need to transition the spending while gradually reducing the overall amount. Start shifting over chunks of military spending to infrastructure spending, while reducing the shifted chunk by a certain percentage. Money gets reallocated where it's needed, military spending is reduced, spending overall is reduced at a manageable rate.

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  • CMXI said...

    If we just start cutting, it'll have a horrible effect on the economy. I think we need to transition the spending while gradually reducing the overall amount. Start shifting over chunks of military spending to infrastructure spending, while reducing the shifted chunk by a certain percentage. Money gets reallocated where it's needed, military spending is reduced, spending overall is reduced at a manageable rate.

    It definitely needs to be measured and meted out. But that should be a 15 year goal is to reduce our defense budget by that much. JMO.

    fsufsu

  • I consider myself a "fan" of the military. All militaries, really. I love reading about the history of war, especially WWII, of which I consider myself a huge buff. I also respect the hell out of anyone that serves our country, even if they're sh!tty people otherwise.

    That said, I do not understand the creepy stalker girlfriend attitude so many people take when the thought of "diminishing" the military is even mentioned in passing.

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  • fsufsu said...

    It definitely needs to be measured and meted out. But that should be a 15 year goal is to reduce our defense budget by that much. JMO.

    I could see 15 years. Shifting $20B per year would be significant, but manageable.

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  • CMXI said...

    I could see 15 years. Shifting $20B per year would be significant, but manageable.

    Yeah sorry, didnt mean we need to send the defense minister a text that says, "U get 300B less next yr lol"

    fsufsu