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Shaquille O'Neal Thread

  • First time I think I've agreed with you. The NBA was in dire straights from 1998-2008, Shaq did a lot to bridge that gap

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  • joetheogre said...

    First time I think I've agreed with you. The NBA was in dire straights from 1998-2008, Shaq did a lot to bridge that gap

    I know the Lakers are going to retire his jersey. You heard when that is?

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  • zabba said...

    Cool... I can see your logic. I definitely have Olajuwon in my top three. mine would probably be...

    1. Bill Russell. - Player/coach. only one other player in pro sports has 11 rings as a player. (Henri Richard, Montreal Canadiens) 2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar. 6 MVP's and 6 Championships, all time leading scorer, such a great resume 3. Hakeem Olajuwon. - For all of the reasons you described 4. Wilt Chamberlain. - I would love to see him play in today's game, or in the late 80s-90s. amazing rebounder, atrocious free throw shooter. 5. Shaquille O'Neal. - as great as he was, he could have been better with a stronger work ethic. Should have finished higher. Still a beast though and glad we poached him from Orlando.

    Kareem
    Shaq
    Wilt
    Russell
    The Dream

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  • Despite their differences towards the end, they're without a doubt the best tandem in NBA history. They are both quoted as saying they realize they could not have done it without each other.

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  • IrishImpact said...

    Despite their differences towards the end, they're without a doubt the best tandem in NBA history. They are both quoted as saying they realize they could not have done it without each other.

    Without a doubt???roflmao

    You been watching the NBA for a whole 12 years???

    This post was edited by ftlaudcock on 6/1/2012 at 4:28 PM

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  • I'm looking for a Lakers Shaq swingman jersey.

    If you can find it in a medium anywhere on the web I will upvote you.

    Having alot of trouble finding it in a medium TIA

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  • will help look for one for ya

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  • ftlaudcock said...

    Without a doubt???roflmao

    You been watching the NBA for a whole 12 years???

    Name a better 1-2 punch.

    Shaq and Kobe are on alot of peoples top 5 players of all time list.

    Don't know how that's really that funny...

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  • shoeless7777 said...

    will help look for one for ya

    Thanks bud appreciate it.

    I'd love to get one before I leave for Florida.

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  • IrishImpact said...

    Name a better 1-2 punch.

    Shaq and Kobe are on alot of peoples top 5 players of all time list.

    Don't know how that's really that funny...

    What's funny is "without a doubt"

    Please tell me your evaluation criteria in determining "without a doubt best tandem ever".

    In your world MJ and Pippen don't create a little doubt??????? Magic and Kareem??? Cousy--Russell?? If not then
    roflmao

    Edit: Shaq and Kobe aren't even the GOAT at their respective positions, but they're both in alot of people's top 5???swirl

    This post was edited by ftlaudcock on 6/3/2012 at 11:40 AM

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  • ftlaudcock said...

    What's funny is "without a doubt"

    Please tell me your evaluation criteria in determining "without a doubt best tandem ever".

    In your world MJ and Pippen don't create a little doubt??????? Magic and Kareem??? Cousy--Russell?? If not then roflmao

    Shaq and Kobe are 2 top 10 players all time.

    Pippen and Cousy aren't in the top 10 all time players.

    Magic and Kareem maybe but even they didn't work off of each other the way Shaq and Kobe did. Shaq and Kobe could each individually take over a game by themselves. Magic could do it but Kareem was never that dominant.

    We will never see another tandem like Shaq and Kobe ever again.

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  • IrishImpact said...

    Shaq and Kobe are 2 top 10 players all time.

    Pippen and Cousy aren't in the top 10 all time players.

    Magic and Kareem maybe but even they didn't work off of each other the way Shaq and Kobe did. Shaq and Kobe could each individually take over a game by themselves. Magic could do it but Kareem was never that dominant.

    We will never see another tandem like Shaq and Kobe ever again.

    Magic and Kareem "didn't work off each other the way Shaq and Kobe did" ??? .And Kareem wasn't "dominant" enough?

    Yeah there's some good sound objective criteria right there

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  • ftlaudcock said...

    Magic and Kareem "didn't work off each other the way Shaq and Kobe did" ??? .And Kareem wasn't "dominant" enough?

    Yeah there's some good sound objective criteria right there

    There is a huge misconception about Kareem. He really never was that dominant. He just played for an ungodly loooong time. That's why he has the most points ever, and probably a few other all time records.

    Now compared to Shaq in his prime? Fuggeettta bout' it!!!

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  • IrishImpact said...

    There is a huge misconception about Kareem. He really never was that dominant. He just played for an ungodly loooong time. That's why he has the most points ever, and probably a few other all time records.

    Now compared to Shaq in his prime? Fuggeettta bout' it!!!

    And yet:NBA Statistics inconveniently reflect that in terms of career average per game numbers:

    PPG: Kareem>Shaq
    RPG Kareem > Shaq
    BPG Kareem > Shaq
    APG Kareem > Shaq

    But we can always ignore the numbers and go with your objective judgment swirl

    This post was edited by ftlaudcock on 6/3/2012 at 12:20 PM

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  • ftlaudcock said...

    And yet there's a reason most NBA observers And yet:NBA Statistics inconveniently reflect that in terms of career average per game numbers:

    PPG: Kareem>Shaq RPG Kareem > Shaq BPG Kareem > Shaq APG Kareem > Shaq

    But we can always ignore the numbers and go with your objective judgment swirl

    Dude Kareem never played against great centers. He played against weak watered down defenses of the 70's and 80's. If Shaq played in that era I wonder what his numbers would be. Shaq played in the era of centers throughout the 90's...and was unquestionably dominant. Not to mention what he did at the dawn of the decade. It was tougher for Shaq and he still became top 5 in scoring when it was all said and done. He was simply more dominant than Kareem.

    Numbers don't tell you the whole story.

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  • IrishImpact said...

    Dude Kareem never played against great centers. He played against weak watered down defenses of the 70's and 80's. If Shaq played in that era I wonder what his numbers would be. Shaq played in the era of centers throughout the 90's...and was unquestionably dominant. Not to mention what he did at the dawn of the decade. It was tougher for Shaq and he still became top 5 in scoring when it was all said and done. He was simply more dominant than Kareem.

    Numbers don't tell you the whole story.

    unquestionably dominant yet only one MVP to show for that dominance?

    6 MVP's >>>>>>1 MVP.

    Make sure that either you or Shaq puts the "Do Not Disturb" sign on the door when the two of you "turn in".

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  • ftlaudcock said...

    unquestionably dominant yet only one MVP to show for that dominance?

    6 MVP's >>>>>>1 MVP.

    Make sure that either you or Shaq puts the "Do Not Disturb" sign on the door when the two of you "turn in".

    All I know is Shaq in his prime could take Kareem. Kareem was a stick figure Shaq would have punished him every trip down the floor.

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  • Should I pull the trigger?

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  • IrishImpact said...

    All I know is Shaq in his prime could take Kareem. Kareem was a stick figure Shaq would have punished him every trip down the floor.

    Sad state of affairs when everything you know is wrong. Number don't lie, your school-girl crush notwithstanding.

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  • ftlaudcock said...

    Sad state of affairs when everything you know is wrong. Number don't lie, your school-girl crush notwithstanding.

    Kareem = 3 fouls in the first quarter trying to guard the Diesel

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  • shaq is the man. loved watching him play in his prime

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  • After he stuffed the lob from Kobe to seal game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals and a trip to the NBA finals where the Shaq-led Lakers would begin the first of their 3-peat.

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    Not agile?

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  • There no chance Kareem could guard Shaq. Besides wilt, Shaq was the most dominating force ever.

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