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So Boise opens up at Michigan State next year?

  • That should be interesting. Both programs will be breaking in new QBs. Who else do Boise/MSU lose?

    I will give it to Boise, their 2012 OOC slate is pretty good. @ MSU, @ Southern Miss, BYU, Miami (OH). Not bad.

    Andrea Doria

  • State loses 2 starters on D and like 5 on offense including most of the WR and TE production guys. Boise loses more tho, cant remember the exact number but its high like 18 starters.

    It's on Friday night too, should be a good game. MSU wins at home.rockon

    swizbeatz

  • swizbeatz said...

    State loses 2 starters on D and like 5 on offense including most of the WR and TE production guys. Boise loses more tho, cant remember the exact number but its high like 18 starters.

    It's on Friday night too, should be a good game. MSU wins at home.rockon

    Tough way to start for two new QBs...should be quite interesting.

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    neoavatara

  • Boise is going to kill them

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  • neoavatara said...

    Tough way to start for two new QBs...should be quite interesting.

    MSU rolls, 38-10

    xxmgobluexx

  • MSU by a ton. Boise will have to say bye bye to their 12th year senior QB.

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    mpcoan

  • mpcoan said...

    MSU by a ton. Boise will have to say bye bye to their 12th year senior QB.

    The last time we said that their new scrawny, small armed QB showed up and went something like 39-2 in 3 years. I'm guessing Peterson will have another well equipped, well prepared QB.

    Andrea Doria

  • Andrea Doria said...

    The last time we said that their new scrawny, small armed QB showed up and went something like 39-2 in 3 years. I'm guessing Peterson will have another well equipped, well prepared QB.

    It's not just the QB.

    Boise loses their starting:

    QB (Moore)
    RB (Martin)
    LT (Potter)
    C (Yriarte)
    RG (Hayes)
    TE (Efaw)
    WR (Shoemaker)

    So that's 7 offensive starters.

    On defense:

    DE (Crawford and McClellin)
    DT (Winn and Baker)
    LB (Hout, Tevis, and White)
    S (Stanaway and Febis)
    CB (Iloka)

    10 people of defense.

    BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE.

    P (Elkin)
    Holder (White)

    So a total of 19 lost starters on O, D, and ST.

    MSU returns 18/22 in the defensive two deeps.

    Macks

  • Andrea Doria said...

    The last time we said that their new scrawny, small armed QB showed up and went something like 39-2 in 3 years. I'm guessing Peterson will have another well equipped, well prepared QB.

    He's never had to replace 18 starters before though. Things are a bit different this time around.

    Sp4rt4ns ●

  • MSU should walk away with it. Will be interesting to see what Boise looks like next year.

    hines011

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    Boise is going to kill them

    youre just mad the Nardawg didnt want to go to a inferior texas am program

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  • Pease is at Florida. I have not heard of their new OC yet.

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    TWright

  • TWright said...

    Pease is at Florida. I have not heard of their new OC yet.

    As of right now, MSU has more "knowns" than Boise does, returning all of their DEs, LBs and CBs in the 2-deep from the '11 squad. MSU loses 1 of the 4 safeties that played in '11 and 3 of the 4 DTs; obviously DT is the biggest concern headed into 2012 for the Spartans.

    Offensively MSU is losing Kirk Cousins, the 3 top WRs and the top TE. Fortunately the Spartans return 4 of the 5 starting OL, along with 2 other OL who started the first 3 games before both being lost for the season against ND. Essentially 6 OL with at least 3 starts return with 4 others who saw PT in 2011. MSU's top RB, Le'Veon Bell, also comes back.

    So MSU basically needs to find 3 DTs and make sure RS JR Andrew Maxwell and the receivers are on the same page; the transfer of HS All-American WR DeAnthony Arnett from Tennessee to Michigan State (Hardship waiver applied for) could allay some of the passing game concerns. It's far from a perfect situation from MSU, but given that Boise is replacing almost all of their starters (and the game is in East Lansing), I have to give the edge to MSU right now.

    Then again, it's January. Plenty can change between now and then.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • As a buckeye fanatic I hope msu wins

    330buckeye

  • BrodieMSU said...

    youre just mad the Nardawg didnt want to go to a inferior texas am program

    nerd atm is a top ten program nationally. Nardawg didn't turn them down, they withdrew their offer.

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    "As far as the downvotes. It's a gnat biting an lion" -- A member of tRCMB Justice League, taking the internet WAY WAY too seriously.

    Rocket_Play

  • MSU returns a nasty defense, even with the departure of Jerel Worthy. Sending 3 new OLinemen against our guys will be rough. I think you're going to see some very sloppy play out of the MSU offense, but they'll do enough to get the W.

    Royal

  • I think MSU wins. If they lose week 1, it could be a bad omen. They have schedule that could lead to the snow-ball affect. If they don't start the year strong, I could see them being 3-7 going into their bye week.

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  • thejumper5 said...

    I think MSU wins. If they lose week 1, it could be a bad omen. They have schedule that could lead to the snow-ball affect. If they don't start the year strong, I could see them being 3-7 going into their bye week.

    lol

    NigelUno

  • thejumper5 said...

    I think MSU wins. If they lose week 1, it could be a bad omen. They have schedule that could lead to the snow-ball affect. If they don't start the year strong, I could see them being 3-7 going into their bye week.

    Msu will be a preseason top 15 by the time the fall gets here. No way will they lose 7 games next year

    wholephoenix79

  • wholephoenix79 said...

    Msu will be a preseason top 15 by the time the fall gets here. No way will they lose 7 games next year

    I agree they shouldn't lose more than 3-4 games max, but if their new QB plays poorly and they fail to get momentum in September, bad play could snow-ball on them.

    Edit: All I'm really trying to say is that I think MSU has a tough schedule and has a small margin for error. Perhaps 3-7 is a little extreme, but bad luck seasons happen to everyone once in awhile.

    This post was edited by thejumper5 on 1/13/2012 at 9:12 PM

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  • thejumper5 said...

    I agree they shouldn't lose more than 3-4 games max, but if their new QB plays poorly and they fail to get momentum in September, bad play could snow-ball on them.

    "If your QB plays like shit, you won't win many games."

    Thank you, oh wise one. Have you seen Andrew Maxwell take a snap yet?

    Royal

  • Royal said...

    "If your QB plays like shit, you won't win many games."

    Thank you, oh wise one. Have you seen Andrew Maxwell take a snap yet?

    No meaningful snaps, and neither has anyone else. He has a ton of potential, but there's always a hint of doubt in the unknown.

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  • thejumper5 said...

    I agree they shouldn't lose more than 3-4 games max, but if their new QB plays poorly and they fail to get momentum in September, bad play could snow-ball on them.

    Edit: All I'm really trying to say is that I think MSU has a tough schedule and has a small margin for error. Perhaps 3-7 is a little extreme, but bad luck seasons happen to everyone once in awhile.

    You have a point

    wholephoenix79

  • Macks said...

    It's not just the QB.

    Boise loses their starting:

    QB (Moore) RB (Martin) LT (Potter) C (Yriarte) RG (Hayes) TE (Efaw) WR (Shoemaker)

    So that's 7 offensive starters.

    On defense:

    DE (Crawford and McClellin) DT (Winn and Baker) LB (Hout, Tevis, and White) S (Stanaway and Febis) CB (Iloka)

    10 people of defense.

    BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE.

    P (Elkin) Holder (White)

    So a total of 19 lost starters on O, D, and ST.

    MSU returns 18/22 in the defensive two deeps.

    Damn. Will be pretty embarrassing if Sparty loses to a team with virtually no starters back. But Boise will be playing on the road and it will be the first game of the season. What could go wrong? shrug

    MrWoodson

  • thejumper5 said...

    I agree they shouldn't lose more than 3-4 games max, but if their new QB plays poorly and they fail to get momentum in September, bad play could snow-ball on them.

    Edit: All I'm really trying to say is that I think MSU has a tough schedule and has a small margin for error. Perhaps 3-7 is a little extreme, but bad luck seasons happen to everyone once in awhile.

    3-7 would be extreme, considering you're saying that Maxwell would be so bad that it would propel us back to the 1970's, when we played 10 games a season.

    Royal

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