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So the NYC soft drink ban starts tomorrow, eh?

  • Just read where it was overturned.

    At least everyone hasn't lost their mind

    Jeff4SC

  • Jeff4SC said...

    Are you serious?

    Just had a news flash from USAToday.com on my phone

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    tbdbitl

  • Status said...

    How much would you be affected under my proposed fat tax? 200% increase?

    lulz. Nice try though, I suppose. shrug

    Keep trying to tell people how to live their lives, liberal. coffee

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    sf2k4

  • tbdbitl said...

    Just had a news flash from USAToday.com on my phone

    Very nice.

    That was pretty fvcking stupid

    Jeff4SC

  • Judge Halts New York City Soda Ban - WSJ.com

    A state judge stopped the Bloomberg administration from banning the sale of large sugary drinks at restaurants and other venues, a major defeat for the mayor.

    online.wsj.com
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    tbdbitl

  • The regulations are "fraught with arbitrary and capricious consequences," the judge wrote. "The simple reading of the rule leads to the earlier acknowledged uneven enforcement even within a particular city block, much less the city as a whole….the loopholes in this rule effectively defeat the state purpose of the rule."

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    tbdbitl

  • tbdbitl said...

    A judge just banned the ban... Big Glups are back in NYC

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    Golden is better then Jimbo is. I feared it was true. He is going to hoist a crystal ball there. -fsufsu

    ilovelamp51

  • tbdbitl said...

    The regulations are "fraught with arbitrary and capricious consequences," the judge wrote. "The simple reading of the rule leads to the earlier acknowledged uneven enforcement even within a particular city block, much less the city as a whole….the loopholes in this rule effectively defeat the state purpose of the rule."

    Exactly.

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    "A political call, the fall guy accord...We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train..."

    BamaLivesFootba

  • A fat tax sounds good to me

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    the_bagman

  • Lol at folks thinking its their right to systematically destroy themselves. They do have that right and it cant be taken away from them here in 'Merica. That said, lol at folks yelling that they have the right to careen towards dialysis at the break neck speed they desire.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    Lol at folks thinking its their right to systematically destroy themselves. They do have that right and it cant be taken away from them here in 'Merica. That said, lol at folks yelling that they have the right to careen towards dialysis at the break neck speed they desire.

    At the very least their healthcare expenses should be raised. How ridiculous is it that people who poison their bodies pay the same amount as me?

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    Status

  • Status said...

    At the very least their healthcare expenses should be raised. How ridiculous is it that people who poison their bodies pay the same amount as me?

    Firms are incentivizing healthier living to lower their healthcare costs.

    Seems no different to me that the government does it writ large to cover those under Medicaid/Medicare (and now with subsidies under Obamacare).

    Personally I agree that individual insurance should be shaped sinilarly.

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    "A political call, the fall guy accord...We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train..."

    BamaLivesFootba

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Firms are incentivizing healthier living to lower their healthcare costs.

    Seems no different to me that the government does it writ large to cover those under Medicaid/Medicare (and now with subsidies under Obamacare).

    Personally I agree that individual insurance should be shaped sinilarly.

    It is shifting, really faster than I ever expected. In 10 years it will be very very costly to be unhealthy in America and POOF! folks won't smoke, chug sugar drinks, and will walk at night.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    It is shifting, really faster than I ever expected. In 10 years it will be very very costly to be unhealthy in America and POOF! folks won't smoke, chug sugar drinks, and will walk at night.

    Lol

    People will always smoke and drink soda. Are you that delusional?

    Jeff4SC

  • Jeff4SC said...

    Lol

    People will always smoke and drink soda. Are you that delusional?

    Are you that constrained mentally to your current time and place?

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    Are you that constrained mentally to your current time and place?

    lol

    Coca cola is 100+ years old and smoking cigarettes is thousands of years old.

    Rather transcendent IMO

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    panic1013

  • panic1013 said...

    lol

    Coca cola is 100+ years old and smoking cigarettes is thousands of years old.

    Rather transcendent IMO

    Please never come over to the futurist/technology thread.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    Please never come over to the futurist/technology thread.

    Please don't act like consumer staples and technological advances have remotely comparable life cycles

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    panic1013

  • panic1013 said...

    lol

    Coca cola is 100+ years old and smoking cigarettes is thousands of years old.

    Rather transcendent IMO

    100 years is a drop of nothing in the span of humanity

    Alonzo Harris

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    A tax would have been easier and definitely worked better.

    Morality or sin taxes are a horrible idea too. They are just another way the gov't tries to control you behaviour.

    Everything should be taxed the same (bread to yachts) and all loopholes and tax write-offs eliminated.

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  • fsufsu said...

    Please never come over to the futurist/technology thread.

    You don't really get human nature do you???

    I have known all of my life that smoking is bad for you and the same for cocaine...

    I have also known hundreds of smokers my age or less and many people who snorted away their money. Could Coke sales be affected by "sin taxes" and limits... possibly, but people will continue to drink it. Same goes for cigs and drugs. People will choose the immediate satisfaction over long-term consequences at an alarmingly high rate.

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  • Jeff4SC said...

    And cigarrettes should be one's perogative. Just because some don't agree with it and what it does to your health doesn't mean it should be "taxed" more

    concur... same reasons I support the legalization of drugs, what adults choose to do to themselves is up to them.

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  • menichols74 said...

    Morality or sin taxes are a horrible idea too. They are just another way the gov't tries to control you behaviour.

    Everything should be taxed the same (bread to yachts) and all loopholes and tax write-offs eliminated.

    When the cost to taxpayers when a person eats BREAD their entire life instead of smoking cigarettes can easily exceed $100,000 you might have a point.

    You have a constitutional right to smoke cigarettes, maybe, but people who fight against tobacco taxes aren't so fucking yappity about their 'individual rights' and 'government control' when they show up in the emergency room 30 years later, coughing up blood, billing it to Medicare. It's not about 'morality' or 'sin.' When a man falls out of the workforce because he has a heart attack at age 45, it's bad for the entire economy and responsible citizens have to pick up the slack.

    It may be your right to put terrible things in your body, but you should have to pay a tax to buy the horrible shit. Not because fat people are icky but because when you end up on disability and can't work because you lost a foot to diabetes, or you spend the last 20 years of your life in and out of the hospital, or orphan your children, your personal choice became society's problem.

    Bloomberg's law is stupid because it should have been a tax, not a ban.

    RabbitSC

  • menichols74 said...

    You don't really get human nature do you???

    I have known all of my life that smoking is bad for you and the same for cocaine...

    I have also known hundreds of smokers my age or less and many people who snorted away their money. Could Coke sales be affected by "sin taxes" and limits... possibly, but people will continue to drink it. Same goes for cigs and drugs. People will choose the immediate satisfaction over long-term consequences at an alarmingly high rate.

    Smoking rates in the United States have dropped by half from 1965 to 2006 falling from 42% to 20.8% of adults.

    P.S. In 2011, 19.0% of adults were smokers.

    This post was edited by RabbitSC on 3/11/2013 at 5:19 PM

    RabbitSC

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Yes. It will affect the demand for soda in the area.

    How much of a tax are you talking here? A typical 5 or 10 cent tax probably wouldn't would effect sales at all.

    TroyTide