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So the Pope is resigning...

  • sf2k4 said...

    Ignoring the obvious facetiousness of that statement, what exactly bothers you so much about change? You said once in a thread you missed the way America was in the 1950's (another topic obviously). What is so wrong with progressing and adapting and evolving?

    Never said that, not once.

    TroyTide

  • Any thoughts that he may just be doing this for contract leverage??

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  • ScarletnCream said...

    I hadn't been to a Catholic service in a while til last week and a bunch of the Eucharistic wording changed. It pissed me off. Tradition is not to be messed with

    Right? Me too..literally 2 weeks ago.

    Priest: Peace be with you

    Me: And also with you (everyone else was saying something different!) Threww me off the whole service!

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  • joetheogre said...

    What haven't you read the thread? The goal here is numbers and influence and power. The church must do what it has to do to maintain those things. Christianity needs to be revamped man. Come to think of it the Bible is getting kinda old too, it's definitely not helping in the cool department.

    I am thinking a good marketing campaign a catchy slogan and a celebrity spokesperson are in order here.

    TroyTide

  • TroyTide said...

    Never said that, not once.

    I distinctly remember the 1950's America comment.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    I distinctly remember the 1950's America comment.

    Not from me you don't. Never said it.

    TroyTide

  • TroyTide said...

    Not from me you don't. Never said it.

    I may have taken the comment and applied it to more than you intended, but what you said was:

    "Just once admit you are wrong. Society was much safer pre 1950 than today...that's a fact."

    I believe someone then followed up with the statement, "If only we could go back to those days."

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  • Woah, guys, hold on - maybe the Pope's just giving up the papacy for Lent? shrug

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  • CMXI said...

    Woah, guys, hold on - maybe the Pope's just giving up the papacy for Lent? shrug

    Let's make sure we get it right this time.

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  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Let's make sure we get it right this time.

    I thought the whole point was that the pope wasn't also God?

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  • CMXI said...

    I thought the whole point was that the pope wasn't also God?

    If god can be his own son, he can also be his own pope.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • sf2k4 said...

    I may have taken the comment and applied it to more than you intended, but what you said was:

    "Just once admit you are wrong. Society was much safer pre 1950 than today...that's a fact."

    I believe someone then followed up with the statement, "If only we could go back to those days."

    I remember that thread. I said something along the lines of "Yeah, I remember when racial violence was acceptable and spousal abuse was a 'private matter'"

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  • joetheogre said...

    I remember that thread. I said something along the lines of "Yeah, I remember when racial violence was acceptable and spousal abuse was a 'private matter'"

    Ah, the quaint old 50s. A simpler time, where if you weren't a white male, censored you.

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  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    If god can be his own son, he can also be his own pope.

    God's disturbingly into incest, if you think about it.

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  • This could be a good time thing, you obviously can't subpoena a pope but all claims of child molestation and proof there of went directly to the office of Joesph Ratzinger(now pope Benedict). Maybe, just maybe, this is a way for the church to 'unseal' these documents(because all of his stuff would be kept in the vatican vault while pope) and finally clear up all the sexual abuse cases. shrug

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  • SCirish843 said...

    This could be a good time thing, you obviously can't subpoena a pope but all claims of child molestation and proof there of went directly to the office of Joesph Ratzinger(now pope Benedict). Maybe, just maybe, this is a way for the church to 'unseal' these documents(because all of his stuff would be kept in the vatican vault while pope) and finally clear up all the sexual abuse cases. shrug

    As wonderful as that sounds, this is an institution that covered up abuse for decades. I doubt they're going to release anything that makes them look bad, ever, unless they absolutely have to and have no possible other choice.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    I may have taken the comment and applied it to more than you intended, but what you said was:

    "Just once admit you are wrong. Society was much safer pre 1950 than today...that's a fact."

    I believe someone then followed up with the statement, "If only we could go back to those days."

    I do remember that. Still didn't say what you said I did.

    TroyTide

  • joetheogre said...

    I remember that thread. I said something along the lines of "Yeah, I remember when racial violence was acceptable and spousal abuse was a 'private matter'"

    As opposed to these days when several armed gunmen may just decide its time to invade your home.

    And I don't think spousal abuse has ever been acceptable.

    TroyTide

  • TroyTide said...

    As opposed to these days when several armed gunmen may just decide its time to invade your home.

    And I don't think spousal abuse has ever been acceptable.

    It wasn't acceptable, but social norms made spousal abuse a taboo subject, thus countless cases went unreported.

    FYI the murder rate was higher in 1960 than it was in 2011.

    9,110 for 179 million in 1960 and 14,612 for 311 million in 2011. But by all means, keep holding onto a nostalgic view of the past

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  • joetheogre said...

    It wasn't acceptable, but social norms made spousal abuse a taboo subject, thus countless cases went unreported.

    FYI the murder rate was higher in 1960 than it was in 2011.

    9,110 for 179 million in 1960 and 14,612 for 311 million in 2011. But by all means, keep holding onto a nostalgic view of the past

    1960 is not the 50s or before so that is irrelevant to this discussion.

    TroyTide

  • TroyTide said...

    1960 is not the 50s or before so that is irrelevant to this discussion.


    The fact is homicide rates today are very similar to the rates in the 1950s and 60s. The country is NOT getting more dangerous. Stop trying to twist facts to fit your argument.

    2012 seems to have set a record for lowest homicide rate in decades.

    FBI: Violent crime rates in the US drop, approach historic lows - U.S. News

    Violent crime rates in the U.S. are reaching historic lows, according to new FBI data released Monday. Instances of murder declined overall by 1.9 percent from 2010 figures, while rape, robbery and aggravated assault declined by 4 percent nationwide, according to records from mor

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  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    If god can be his own son, he can also be his own pope.

    And the anti-christ could also be his own pope too.

    Anyone else have their soul shook when they saw that creepy throne this guy had built in the Vatican?

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