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So we are extracting more domestic oil than ever but......

  • ScarletnCream said...

    So Pedro will always have a job

    If Pedro was more efficient like the Pedro's before him the less gas guzzling mowers would be needed, problem is modern day Pedro is getting lazy like modern day negro and cracker.

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  • WillieMuffcramp said...

    If Pedro was more efficient like the Pedro's before him the less gas guzzling mowers would be needed, problem is modern day Pedro is getting lazy like modern day negro and cracker.

    roflmao damn you modern day negrocrackers!

    IDWIW

  • Lol. No.

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  • WillieMuffcramp said...

    If Pedro was more efficient like the Pedro's before him the less gas guzzling mowers would be needed, problem is modern day Pedro is getting lazy like modern day negro and cracker.

    'modern day negro'

    -WillieMuffcramp

    Fuzz

  • Fuzz said...

    'modern day negro'

    -WillieMuffcramp

    IDWIW®™

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  • CMXI said...

    This is absolutely ridiculous. Seriously, absolutely ridiculous.

    When you're fighting against a party whose leaders declare that their #1 goal is to make you a one-term president, you won't get any cooperation whatsoever. To lay all of the blame for the inability of the parties to compromise on Obama is so far beyond wrong that it hardly bears mentioning.

    Hell, you have GOP leaders like Darrell Issa saying things like "this is not a time for compromise." As a president, what do you do there? If you act unilaterally, as in the case of the executive order relating to the DREAM Act, you're called a tyrant. If you try to negotiate through traditional channels, you're opposed regardless of the merits or validity of your proposals. As a result, you end up with the type of deadlock we saw in Obama's 1st term.

    On top of that, the sequester is hardly Obama's baby. The only reason Obama was forced to consider the idea of the sequester is because of the lunatic fringe taking the debt ceiling hostage. That crisis was just another example of the obstructionism Obama has been fighting against since he was elected. No other president has had to deal with that amount of BS.

    Finally, even GOP darlings like Paul Ryan have said that they've fought for legislation like the sequester for years - but now, they're backpedaling and attempting to use its negative effects to slam Obama. I would hope that you're not so brainwashed that you just dismiss the entirety of this post, but I really, really can't emphasize how ridiculous your post was.

    I get it - but you are posting the same type of Dem vs. Reps stuff like your comment about clean energy earlier. It's been a us v. them thing seemingly forever.

    Obama is not a leader - a leader can negotiate with the other party - Reagan did it, Clinton did it, and even George Sr. did it.
    Obama alienates the Republican Party and acts all shocked when they give him the middle finger...

    Honestly - what is Obama's legacy at this point?

    Leppycole

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    No one ITT has said the real reason why gas has been trending upwards yet.

    Could be the loose monetary policies creating an asset bubble.

    dgoz

  • dgoz said...

    Could be the loose monetary policies creating an asset bubble.

    Wouldn't this have been evident earlier?

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  • Leppycole said...

    I get it - but you are posting the same type of Dem vs. Reps stuff like your comment about clean energy earlier. It's been a us v. them thing seemingly forever.

    Obama is not a leader - a leader can negotiate with the other party - Reagan did it, Clinton did it, and even George Sr. did it. Obama alienates the Republican Party and acts all shocked when they give him the middle finger...

    Honestly - what is Obama's legacy at this point?

    Sweet Jesus, you really don't get it.

    Obama didn't ride in on a platform of "censored the Republicans, I'm running this thing." He tried to compromise for years, and got nothing. Anything he put forth was opposed simply by virtue of who proposed it. Romneycare? Best idea ever. Obamacare? Apocalypse. Over and over and over again. There's no compromise to be had when one side refuses to budge an inch.

    I don't think you really understand how unprecedented it was for Obama to face the level of pure political obstructionism that he dealt with and deals with to this day. No other president has faced a debt ceiling negotiation because one party is holding the interests of the country hostage for petty political gain. No other president has seen such virulent opposition to the appointment of a cabinet position when the appointee isn't even of the president's party.

    This is not a "both sides do it" situation. Your example of what constitutes a "leader" is idiotic, because it's not like Obama didn't try to negotiate for years. No president has faced the blind obstructionism that Obama has faced. His legacy will be as the first president to deal with the violent death throes of the traditional Republican party. He'll go down as the victim of the most childish and selfish collective political behavior in Post-war America.

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  • CMXI said...

    Sweet Jesus, you really don't get it.

    Obama didn't ride in on a platform of "censored the Republicans, I'm running this thing." He tried to compromise for years, and got nothing. Anything he put forth was opposed simply by virtue of who proposed it. Romneycare? Best idea ever. Obamacare? Apocalypse. Over and over and over again. There's no compromise to be had when one side refuses to budge an inch.

    I don't think you really understand how unprecedented it was for Obama to face the level of pure political obstructionism that he dealt with and deals with to this day. No other president has faced a debt ceiling negotiation because one party is holding the interests of the country hostage for petty political gain. No other president has seen such virulent opposition to the appointment of a cabinet position when the appointee isn't even of the president's party.

    This is not a "both sides do it" situation. Your example of what constitutes a "leader" is idiotic, because it's not like Obama didn't try to negotiate for years. No president has faced the blind obstructionism that Obama has faced. His legacy will be as the first president to deal with the violent death throes of the traditional Republican party. He'll go down as the victim of the most childish and selfish collective political behavior in Post-war America.

    Complete and utter bullshit. He didn't republican support for 1 item in his 1st 2 years as president. In fact it was the shitty way his ACA was passed that lead to his party getting their asses handed to them in 2010. What did he say during the health care negotiations to John McCain? How many times has he reminded the Republicans that "He won?"

    The Republicans shouldn't budge an inch because Obama is at best a socialist and at worst a Marxist communist.

    Hell, in that google forum he held last week, he decried the fact he wasn't emperor of the US, but just the president.

    NLeininger

  • NLeininger said...

    Complete and utter bullshit. He didn't republican support for 1 item in his 1st 2 years as president. In fact it was the shitty way his ACA was passed that lead to his party getting their asses handed to them in 2010. What did he say during the health care negotiations to John McCain? How many times has he reminded the Republicans that "He won?"

    The Republicans shouldn't budge an inch because Obama is at best a socialist and at worst a Marxist communist.

    Hell, in that google forum he held last week, he decried the fact he wasn't emperor of the US, but just the president.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Wouldn't this have been evident earlier?

    I wouldn't rule it out as a contributing factor. But also oil is a worldwide commodity. Many factors are leading to rising prices. Unrest in Middle East, Iran sanctions, increased demand in china and India. Even though we are doing a better job at keeping up with our domestic demand, the world?...eh... Not so much.

    dgoz

  • cockfool said...

    All true enough. Increased domestic output AND refining capacity would lower domestic prices. Getting it out of the ground is great but until we can pour crude into a gas tank it won't much matter. That we are sending oil overseas to be refined is retarded.

    St Croix, US Virgin Islands has an oil refinery that shut down last year. It was one of the biggest in the world.

    justinboze

  • agourlay said...

    Whoever figures out an economical way to remove/lower the salinity of salt water will be the richest person on earth within months. No doubt in my mind. The amount of salt water on earth is limitless

    It's being done all over the world. I live in a place that has several plants that take salt out of the water. The problem is what it takes to run these massive plants...fuel.

    justinboze

  • CMXI said...

    Sweet Jesus, you really don't get it.

    Obama didn't ride in on a platform of "censored the Republicans, I'm running this thing." He tried to compromise for years, and got nothing. Anything he put forth was opposed simply by virtue of who proposed it. Romneycare? Best idea ever. Obamacare? Apocalypse. Over and over and over again. There's no compromise to be had when one side refuses to budge an inch.

    What is your excuse for Obama having a Democrat House and Democrat Senate for half of his presidency? It's hard to blame those pesky Republicans when you can pass whatever you want and still not do shit, yet you do anyway.

    justinboze

  • CMXI said...

    This is absolutely ridiculous. Seriously, absolutely ridiculous.

    When you're fighting against a party whose leaders declare that their #1 goal is to make you a one-term president, you won't get any cooperation whatsoever. To lay all of the blame for the inability of the parties to compromise on Obama is so far beyond wrong that it hardly bears mentioning.

    Hell, you have GOP leaders like Darrell Issa saying things like "this is not a time for compromise." As a president, what do you do there? If you act unilaterally, as in the case of the executive order relating to the DREAM Act, you're called a tyrant. If you try to negotiate through traditional channels, you're opposed regardless of the merits or validity of your proposals. As a result, you end up with the type of deadlock we saw in Obama's 1st term.

    On top of that, the sequester is hardly Obama's baby. The only reason Obama was forced to consider the idea of the sequester is because of the lunatic fringe taking the debt ceiling hostage. That crisis was just another example of the obstructionism Obama has been fighting against since he was elected. No other president has had to deal with that amount of BS.

    Finally, even GOP darlings like Paul Ryan have said that they've fought for legislation like the sequester for years - but now, they're backpedaling and attempting to use its negative effects to slam Obama. I would hope that you're not so brainwashed that you just dismiss the entirety of this post, but I really, really can't emphasize how ridiculous your post was.

    This is absolutely ridiculous. Why did he invest in companies such as Solyndra, and Tesla? Every major oil and natural gas leader has said that a comprehensive natural gas grid including fill up stations across the nation could finished in about a year. This is selling at less then a tenth of petro and is unbelievably abundant in THIS COUNTRY, thus much closer to energy independent.

    Clearly the man has an agenda and it doesn't include the economy or the citizens. He will absolutely go down as the worst president ever if he keeps making investments with tax payer money in completely worthless endeavors

    Amazinglyblue78

  • justinboze said...

    It's being done all over the world. I live in a place that has several plants that take salt out of the water. The problem is what it takes to run these massive plants...fuel.

    "Economical" and "desalination" don't go hand in hand at the moment.

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  • Amazinglyblue78 said...

    This is absolutely ridiculous. Why did he invest in companies such as Solyndra, and Tesla? Every major oil and natural gas leader has said that a comprehensive natural gas grid including fill up stations across the nation could finished in about a year. This is selling at less then a tenth of petro and is unbelievably abundant in THIS COUNTRY, thus much closer to energy independent.

    Clearly the man has an agenda and it doesn't include the economy or the citizens. He will absolutely go down as the worst president ever if he keeps making investments with tax payer money in completely worthless endeavors

    You cant talk sense into these obamabots. In their eyes the savior can do no wrong.

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  • Status said...

    You cant talk sense into these obamabots. In their eyes the savior can do no wrong.

    After his track record with tax payer dollars I would cut the shit out of his ability to completely screw up again as well. The man thinks he is the smartest person no matter his experience or knowledge in the matter, never taking the obviously good advice from highly successful people.

    His citizenship case is going to be heard by the supreme court as well. Reported spending over a million dollars in campaign funding to keep certain documents from being exposed.

    Also received a scholarship in college that was only acceptable by a foreign student, and carried a Bangladeshi passport for most of his youth. coffee

    Amazinglyblue78

  • WillieMuffcramp said...

    "Economical" and "desalination" don't go hand in hand at the moment.

    It definitely doesn't. It would take an enormous investment to do this without crazy fuel costs. I don't think that it is too far off right now and could possibly do it for 1-2 cents a gallon. That is way too much, obviously, but they just have to get over that hump and power it naturally. Where is Solyndra when you need them?

    justinboze

  • justinboze said...

    It definitely doesn't. It would take an enormous investment to do this without crazy fuel costs. I don't think that it is too far off right now and could possibly do it for 1-2 cents a gallon. That is way too much, obviously, but they just have to get over that hump and power it naturally. Where is Solyndra when you need them?

    Yeah, Tesla too. WTF are you kidding me? One of the worst investments ever made by anyone, much less the president. How long was Solyndra in business after they received their tax payer donation? A couple days maybe a week? fingergun

    Amazinglyblue78

  • Amazinglyblue78 said...

    Yeah, Tesla too. WTF are you kidding me? One of the worst investments ever made by anyone, much less the president. How long was Solyndra in business after they received their tax payer donation? A couple days maybe a week? fingergun

    It's what happens when you elect a community organizer as president.

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  • As someone who voted for Obama, I certainly don't think he "can do no wrong." It's actually kind of funny that the scenario in Congress that CMXI was just explaining is kind of being played out in this thread. Regardless of what he said and what actual facts he used, you guys just point out one arbitrary act the president has done to knock him down a peg and then refer to him as, "a Marxist communist" and "the worst president of all time." Those are ridiculous statements.

    IMO it roots from democrats who wanted more than anything for Obama to be the White Knight, which he hasnt really been. Republicans obviously didn't see him as being that figure and now would do anything to see him fail. But when comparing just the last 2 presidencies alone, how could you honestly think Obama is the worst president of all time? I'm not calling it racism, but Republicans desperately want to see this guy fail. I don't even think desperate is a strong enough word for it. It's like the Lebron effect.

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  • Amazinglyblue78 said...

    Yeah, Tesla too. WTF are you kidding me? One of the worst investments ever made by anyone, much less the president. How long was Solyndra in business after they received their tax payer donation? A couple days maybe a week? fingergun

    It seems like I read somewhere that by their own forecasts, if they didn't find a way to compete with the lower priced Chinese products that they would be out of business very soon. Obama gave them millions of $ anyway and they went out of business at almost the exact point that they predicted.

    Where'd the money go? Were any of those guys campaign donors? It's just more questions that will never be answered by this "transparent" administration. You can't tell me that this wasn't a shady deal.

    justinboze

  • I dont want to see him fail. He's doing a perfectly fine job of doing that on his own. What I enjoy is watching all these dumbasses who thought obama was going to take care of them and stick it to those evil rich people.

    Meanwhile my taxes went up and Im in the middle class tax bracket explode

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