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So we are extracting more domestic oil than ever but......

  • justinboze said...

    Again, you are defending it by saying it could've happened to anybody, pretty common, etc.

    It's laughable to see you put "Give the Bush shit a rest" since blaming Bush is your party's motto.

    I would look like a complete moron if I was defending Obama or Bush for something that stupid. And it's the stupidity of it that irks people and makes it look like a shady deal.

    You think investments don't fail in the private sector?

    You don't think a private company couldn't eff up one? For reasons similar to those accused of the current admin?

    Come on.

    Seriously give the party-line BS a rest. This isn't 2009. No one is blaming bush anymore and if they are they are fvcktards.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Seriously give the party-line BS a rest. This isn't 2009. No one is blaming bush anymore and if they are they are fvcktards.

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    Your = you are. Stupid. You're is possessive hence the apostrophe. Duh. Ro' Tide!

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  • So we shouldnt blame bush but apparently cant blame obama either. Who do we blame?

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  • Status said...

    So we shouldnt blame bush but apparently cant blame obama either. Who do we blame?

    Blame for what? Doubling renewable electricity production in four years. No. Lets focus on that 2% failure rate. facepalm_msu

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  • justinboze said...

    Again, you are defending it by saying it could've happened to anybody, pretty common, etc.

    It's laughable to see you put "Give the Bush shit a rest" since blaming Bush is your party's motto.

    I would look like a complete moron if I was defending Obama or Bush for something that stupid. And it's the stupidity of it that irks people and makes it look like a shady deal.

    Seriously Obama could come out today and say he was born in Kenya, which would make him ineligible to be president, and this idiot would be defending him.

    NLeininger

  • bhiley77 said...

    The biggest political True Believer in history told people to give party lines a rest? After a five page thread of regurgitating the company line? loco

    Yea. Because saying that market forces are determining the price and outlining my hesitancy with natural gas deposits is real party-line. EAD.

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  • NLeininger said...

    Seriously Obama could come out today and say he was born in Kenya, which would make him ineligible to be president, and this idiot would be defending him.

    So is he a Marxist communist or a Muslim? Just trying to keep up here. Guy should just show his birth certificate I mean that's demanded publicly of every president ever right?

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  • NLeininger said...

    Seriously Obama could come out today and say he was born in Kenya, which would make him ineligible to be president, and this idiot would be defending him.

    Totally..,

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Blame for what? Doubling renewable electricity production in four years. No. Lets focus on that 2% failure rate. facepalm_msu

    lol What'd we double it from? 2 to 4%?

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  • bhiley77 said...

    The first half of that was itself a party line, the second half seems to reflect you read a TNR article that advised you to reverse track on everything you said about natural gas a few months ago. Sticking with my previous statement.

    Nope. Just not as bullish as I once was on LNG. Its not like we dont have any, but the awash descrpitions, "Saudi Arabia of LNG" are dubious. Still would be an acceptable transitional source for power plants to meet the new standards, but to think that this combined with changing vehicles to LNG wouldn't completely turnover the profit projections based on rising prices is just as disingenuous.

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  • Status said...

    lol What'd we double it from? 2 to 4%?

    Nope. Get ready for even more.

    Renewables constitute all new US electricity capacity added in January

    Renewable energy accounted for all new electric capacity added in the United States last month, according to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. In all, 1,231 megawatts of new generating capacity were installed in January.

    thehill.com
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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    I was a freshman in high school. So no, I didn't. Nor do I care now.

    Not to troll/flame, but if Im reading your posts correctly, in 6 years you've gone from an unknowing and uncaring high school freshman to the man with all the answers.

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  • mac1992 said...

    So is he a Marxist communist or a Muslim? Just trying to keep up here. Guy should just show his birth certificate I mean that's demanded publicly of every president ever right?

    Obama is most likely is agnostic. Which fits into his believes of socialism/communism.

    NLeininger

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Nope. Get ready for even more.

    Well I guess that's the reason gas is so high. We continue to pour our money into this crap.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Nope. Get ready for even more.

    Why do they need a tax credit?

    NLeininger

  • Status said...

    Well I guess that's the reason gas is so high. We continue to pour our money into this crap.

    Yea because electricity production is going to determine gas prices...facepalm_msu

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  • NLeininger said...

    Why do they need a tax credit?

    I don't know. Why do oil and coal need tax credits? coffee

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  • Due51 said...

    Not to troll/flame, but if Im reading your posts correctly, in 6 years you've gone from an unknowing and uncaring high school freshman to the man with all the answers.

    Nah. The uncaring part was about Pelosi and her idiocy. I didn't follow political and economic news as closely as I do now. I don't know why that would seem strange to make a transition like that.

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  • Status said...

    So we shouldnt blame bush but apparently cant blame obama either. Who do we blame?

    As production kept increasing, in the mid to late 70's as neoliberalism gained traction, our wages fell disproportionately. The private sector (households) kept taking on more debt, as a replacement, to maintain living standards. Ultimately this led to a false sense of confidence and the spending and thus, the economy, was growing on speculation (stock bubble in 90's, housing bubble). Not to mention we ran a govt surplus in the late 90's which also reduced private sector net savings. Once the housing bubble finally burst, it was clear there was no more private sector spending that could support the speculative bubble economy that was built. The spending now has to find real goods and services from which to build our economy. The blame can be passed around.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    I don't know. Why do oil and coal need tax credits? coffee

    They don't and neither does GE or facebook. End all credits/subsidies and cut corporate rates in half.

    NLeininger

  • By the way, WTI has dropped to around four bucks to ~$93.24/b in the last few days.

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  • NLeininger said...

    They don't and neither does GE or facebook. End all credits/subsidies and cut corporate rates in half.

    No you're talking some sense. That's worth it's own discussion though.

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  • Status said...

    Well I guess that's the reason gas is so high. We continue to pour our money into this crap.

    Gas is on the way out, one way or another, in due time. Time to accept that.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    Gas is on the way out, one way or another, in due time. Time to accept that.

    So is everything else in this world, in due time.

    Gas isnt going anywhere as long as big oil is around.

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  • CMXI said...

    Sweet Jesus, you really don't get it.

    Obama didn't ride in on a platform of " the Republicans, I'm running this thing." He tried to compromise for years, and got nothing. Anything he put forth was opposed simply by virtue of who proposed it. Romneycare? Best idea ever. Obamacare? Apocalypse. Over and over and over again. There's no compromise to be had when one side refuses to budge an inch.

    I don't think you really understand how unprecedented it was for Obama to face the level of pure political obstructionism that he dealt with and deals with to this day. No other president has faced a debt ceiling negotiation because one party is holding the interests of the country hostage for petty political gain. No other president has seen such virulent opposition to the appointment of a cabinet position when the appointee isn't even of the president's party.

    This is not a "both sides do it" situation. Your example of what constitutes a "leader" is idiotic, because it's not like Obama didn't try to negotiate for years. No president has faced the blind obstructionism that Obama has faced. His legacy will be as the first president to deal with the violent death throes of the traditional Republican party. He'll go down as the victim of the most childish and selfish collective political behavior in Post-war America.

    No. It is lack of experience coupled with arrogance buoyed up by a news media only reporting the President’s position with any opposition reflected in a negative light. Not to far off from "blind loyallty."

    President Obama fell back on the one thing he has done in his life; that is to be a community organizer. He found his issue defined as a lack of ‘fairness’ in tax rates, and the Budget Control Act of 2011 was crafted to bring a tax increase on the wealthy to the forefront of National attention. He needed to spend Federal money to swing the upcoming Presidential election in his favor so he entered into the BCA of 2011 with Congress to get his funding. The election is over, Obama is still President, but payment has come due = sequestration.

    The President intended to just rule by decree and bypass the Budget Control Act of 2011. His technique of psychological crowd manipulation that was so effective on the dysfunctional urbanite population down on 95th street has proven to be valueless in the face of a diverse Congress.

    Unable to achieve his goal of unrestricted spending, Obama is now blaming the wealthy for not paying enough taxes. He blames the Republicans for not giving him his way. He is relying on the new media to carry his water by making excuses and further blaming the Republicans. This is the pattern with Obama.

    He reeks of inexperience. The ultra smart liberal elite President was unable to scale up his psychological political tricks to the Feds. He is unable to cut a deal with Congress, and he his proving to be unable to direct Government policy in a positive manner. Rather than execute policy to solve the problem, Obama is in effect campaigning for the public to do his job.

    Psychological Headliners Coming From the White House if the Furloughs Occur:

    "You will not be able to travel safe"
    "Our National Defence will be Down"
    "Food Inspectors will not be able to do their job and protect you and your children"
    "Boarder Patrol will not be able to prevent dangerous illegals from coming in"

    He is using psychological warfare on his own people to make up for his inability to actually Lead.

    Not to mention - this is the 4th year in a row that he is late on submitting his budget to congress - which is a federal violation of law in his office seat.

    Obama has proposed budgets late every year, in violation of law. Obama's FY14 budget proposal was due 4 Feb 2013. It is LATE AGAIN - Shocker! Last year, Obama's budget did not garner a single vote, not even from a democrat. It was soundly rejected by the democrat-controlled Senate 99 to 0. Despite Obama's late and unsupported budget proposal last year, the House finished appropriations bills and passed to the Senate in July last year - plenty of time to negotiate and pass a budget. Reid (democrat Senate Leader) refused to allow the budget on the Senate floor for debate, amendment, or vote.

    But when you have 3 out of the 4 major reporting companies carrying the liberal agenda - these ugly truths never see the light of day.

    This post was edited by Leppycole on 2/21/2013 at 12:05 PM

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