The Blue Board

Never saw it. You keep on keeping on with that self righteousness though.

You got me. I honestly dont think many could say with much confidence except those who claim to have died and seen heaven or hell. Good questions, maybe someone can answer them.

I dont believe you cam go from heaven to hell once you are "admitted" for lack of a better word.

i couldnt answer your questions...surprise... so i asked my wife to take a shot :

God in His sovereignty gave us free will--we have the right to make our own choices: right or wrong it's our choice. we never lose that God-given right of free will. we are 3 part beings. we are a spirit, we have a soul, and we live in a body. when we choose to ask Jesus in our heart and are then born again, our spirits are recreated with the nature of God Himself through the Holy Spirit. it's a new creation, but our souls (mind, will, and emotions) are not born again. the bible talks about how we must grow in the knowledge of God and eat the "meat" of the Word instead of the "milk" which only happens over time by spending time in the Word and prayer.. in romans it's called "renewing our minds". but never can you lose your salvation. everlasting life is ever lasting! scripture says there is nothing we could do nor any power on earth or beneath earth that can separate us from the love of God. Heaven is a place where born again believers go after their body stops on earth. scripture says this world was created after Heaven. i believe so much of nature is in Heaven such as mountains, oceans, and so forth. it's a place where only the will of God exists--nothing but goodness and love and perfection. there is nothing of the curse there--no pain, death, worry, lack, jealousy, greed... it's a place flooded with the Glory of God.

Paul says that "What we'll become is not yet known" in Heaven. You have a resurrected body.

Heaven is where you see God as He really is. That sustains all of one's perceptible capacity for the rest of eternity.

Time doesn't exist in heaven or hell. "I tell you that before Abraham was, I Am." God is and so shall we all be.

wife again ,

not really sure what you mean when you said, "lose the will to have a personality". we don't lose anything--we only gain. there is only one way to heaven--asking jesus in our heart. even if we never spiritually mature; our believing in His grace at the cross brings us into the God's family. our personalities are one facet of our soul, not our spirits. bottom line is we don't go to heaven or hell b/c of our personalities. it's our acceptance of jesus--the way, the truth , and the life, that determines our eternal home. and once in either place, heaven or hell, that is our final home.

This will be my last post of the night. I like the discussion so thank your wife for me.
Where I am coming form is the want to be with your loved ones again. Since free will plays apart of everyones personality, when you see them in heaven, they will not be the same. They will be completely different. That is all I am trying to say.

I hope you two have a great evening and we can continue this another day with some civility even it has to go to pms. I have no problem there.

Good night everyone.

Human hopes for Heaven will fall far short. Will we see our loved ones in Heaven? The Bible doesn't say. Will be enraptured by God and never notice any of the other people there? Bible doesn't say. Will it be simply a redeemed Earth under the leadership of Christ? Depends on interpretation.

One thing is for sure, Heaven won't be heaven because your friends and family are there. When I am in heaven, by the Grace of God, if if if I ever see my father I will likely exchange the briefest smile in history and then refocus on God.

Those people who think Heaven is heaven because it has any other awesome aspect apart from God have thought of a heaven they themselves would get quite sick well before they even get settled in so to speak.

Don't. It's out of a bankruptcy of the knowledge of God you believe that. God is the point, not the facilitator. It's a humanistic thought to believe you'll want anything but God once the veil of sin is lifted. Any Bible believing Christian would agree.

God is more than the unregenerate mind is willing to believe and more than the regenerate mind can fathom. Like I said, He's the point not some facilitator of our transient pleasures.

white people don't no shit about koolaid

I thought shoeless' wife did an admirable job. I'll offer my humble take your fantastic list of questions.

I'd say your free will and personality go hand in hand as you cannot truly have a full blown personality w/o free will. No one is sent to hell w/o free will. We all decide for ourselves. And hell is simply the chosen alternative to living an eternity praising God. The folks we knew on earth are the same people we will know in heaven although they will be transformed into a better version, so to speak. Also, I think heaven is heaven for everyone, although Jesus does speak of making heaven special for each individual (John 14). And again, you stay you in heaven, just a transformed (for the better) you. I hope this helps and will admit that the Bible is no terribly specific on heaven. I think this is purposely done.

South Park, the source of truth. Awesome.

How can there be one truth w/o God? How can we know anything if we don't have the source for everything?

And, the Bible doesn't offer multiple explanations of truth. It's very specific in what it teaches. SOme people interpret it correctly, some don't. Interpreting history is similar. SOme folks interpret history in a historically correct fashion and some don't. After shooting Lincoln Booth either said, "Sic semper Tyrannis!" or he uttered something else. Just b/c some thought they heard something else doesn't mean all are right. The very fact that so many flock to Jesus speaks to His validity.

The majority of people on the planet don't believe in your christ.

And yet, i's amazing how the Biblical ideal pervades much western society, even among those who claim not to believe. God never promised that everyone would believe. Christianity is still the largest religion around the world b/c of the abject truth contained therein. The other religions will come and go as they always have. The quickly growing Church in China isn't being reported.