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No, because the rate you are proposing is almost $4000 a month per person. Are you crazy? I don't know why you're talking about the rate you and I would pay. No one would pay that to stay at The Whitney. It was a negotiated rate that came out to be 450 a month per person, which is available to other NON-athletes. The only way they are going to fill those rooms is negotiated their rates. I guess the NCAA figured they should have been paying 1700 a person. That's reasonable, right? Don't answer that, because I'm sure you would actually agree.

Nothing was swept under the rug. Not to mention you need to get your facts straight. Give it a rest!

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You're asking for everyone's opinions on what the NCAA said, but when we're telling you why their findings look ridiculous, all you do is copy-and-paste the exact points we are contesting. If you don't want to consider the opinion's of the accused, then don't ask for everyone's opinion.

The rooms are going for 126 a night....if you did the math that would equate to over 100k in impermissible benefits...the NCAA only said USC players received 47,000 in impermissible benefits so obviously they already took that into account. Secondly, the NCAA is charging USC for multiple sports and this whole thing is based on 2 separate violations 1.)Whitney Hotel and 2.) the SAM foundation which the NCAA already knows that they were giving kids more benefits.

The response detailed both Lahn and Gordon’s affiliation with South Carolina. Lahn has given $190,529.80 to the university, and he is also a football season ticket holder, member of the Gamecock Club, member of the University’s Alumni Association Board of Governors, and president of his local South Carolina alumni chapter.

I realize that the NCAA took into account what the usual rate was, but they still came out 56 dollars a night. That is still a 3300 dollar apartment a month! That is still a ridiculous rate that they figured, wouldn't you agree. Do you think any crappy 2 bedroom apartments in Columbia are going for $3300 a month. You would be hard pressed to find any crappy four bedrooms going for that. Again, $15 rates are also available for students that don't play sports, which the NCAA is ignoring.

I'm ignoring the SAM stuff, because I don't know enough about that stuff to talk except that we have signed exactly one player who has come through it whereas UF and PSU have signed as many or more than us.

Vacating and Bowl Ban is coming to.South Carolina has not disputed that it committed major rules violations. It could be two or three months before it gets a final decision from the NCAA. They just met with the committee last week.

Like I said...sooooooo cute.

It's a Giraffe!!!

If there were so many "facts" in that LOI why would they allow any University to state their case? Why not just say this is what we found and here are your sanctions?

What is rather entertaining in Universities and colleges is that individuals like yourself are allowed to recruit kids to their institutions for academic purposes, but should athletics become involved then it's a whole different ball game.

no dog in this fight, but a couple common sense points.

"Somehow the NCAA decided that a normal rate for a stay of this length was $56 a night. So the improper benefit was the difference between $56 and $14.59 or $41.30 a night multiplied by the number of nights the football players stayed there, around 1140 nights total."

that sentence right there give anyone with common sense that this wasn't a normal hotel. over 3 year stay? who they hell would stay at a hotel for 3 years (besides nikola tesla)?

sounds more like an apartment than a hotel. and at $56/night totaling to about $1680/month, that's an expensive apartment for students.

however, at $15/night, that's only about $450/month, which is pretty normal for a small, student apartment.

now, the question is if these were only offered to athletes or to all students. but the rates don't seem unreasonable at all.

Every team is allowed to respond....this isn't a dictatorship (completely) but every school is allowed to self impose sanctions and fight the accusations. South Carolina has taken some major steps in demoting their compliance offer and offering to pay fines and self imposed sanctions (which were weak) either way the NCAA said SC players received $47,000 in impermissible benefits...that is FACT.