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Arete said...
Disagree. While the Big 12 is a huge step up from Big East and bigger step from ACC competition, the three above players would be "perhaps" the best in any conference at their respective positions hands down.
"A political call, the fall guy accord...We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train..."
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Arete said...
No where did I insinuate they are the BEST, but easily one of the best and perhaps the best.
Find a more dynamic player than Tavon Austin.
Find another QB better than Geno Smith.
You can name others who are on the same level, but you can't clearly say there are better football players in America at their positions.
As for stedman bailey, he had 1100 yards receiving and 10 TD's as a sophomore. He's special and (as I said above), IMO a top 25 player. The third is the only one you could dispute, and clearly I said IMO.
Anything else?
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Arete said...
No where did I insinuate they are the BEST, but easily one of the best and perhaps the best.
Find a more dynamic player than Tavon Austin.
Find another QB better than Geno Smith.
You can name others who are on the same level, but you can't clearly say there are better football players in America at their positions.
As for stedman bailey, he had 1100 yards receiving and 10 TD's as a sophomore. He's special and (as I said above), IMO a top 25 player. The third is the only one you could dispute, and clearly I said IMO.
Anything else?
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Arete said...
Now you're personally insulting because you disagree with a post? How rivals of you. Maybe you should go back and post on that forum or were you banned and feel the need to play "police" or gatekeeper here?
Don't insult people who would/will run circles around you athletically and intellectually.
The three players I mentioned are absolutely 3 of the best at their position. That's not even debateable.
The trolls in the thread are ones who feel the need to insult and use slurs because they're void of intellect and have difficulty communicating their positions.
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Arete said...
Are you kidding me with this response?
The Big East champ beat the ASHESHE champ by 40 points in Orange Bowl, yet you call it "gay" east? This board deserves better than your type of discourse/posting. The ACC has won 1 let me say this again 1 BCS bowl game in last 10 years.
Geno Smith, Tavon Austin, and Stedman Bailey would all be the best players on FSU's roster hands down. IMO, the only reason FSU won a bowl game was because it played against ND who is absolutely horrid in bowl games.
Try to represent FSU better next time. Calling something gay is the best you can do? A slur that has no business on a college football board. Even more funny, is the irony of that slur was used in context of insulting a conference that's outperformed the ACC. If the Big East was that bad, the ACC has been a lot worse.
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T-Noles813 said...
That's what I'm saying though...think about it.
Identical true Freshman seasons.
One has Matt Barkley, the other has Taj Boyd
One has USCs OL, the other has Clemsons (theirs was bad)
Lee has a lot more functional parts around him, Watkins is the teams saving grace
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No where did I insinuate they are the BEST, but easily one of the best and perhaps the best.
Find a more dynamic player than Tavon Austin.
Find another QB better than Geno Smith.
You can name others who are on the same level, but you can't clearly say there are better football players in America at their positions.
As for stedman bailey, he had 1100 yards receiving and 10 TD's as a sophomore. He's special and (as I said above), IMO a top 25 player. The third is the only one you could dispute, and clearly I said IMO.
Anything else?
I thought SuperMario was a Michigan fan
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No where did I insinuate they are the BEST, but easily one of the best and perhaps the best.
Find a more dynamic player than Tavon Austin.
Find another QB better than Geno Smith.
You can name others who are on the same level, but you can't clearly say there are better football players in America at their positions.
As for stedman bailey, he had 1100 yards receiving and 10 TD's as a sophomore. He's special and (as I said above), IMO a top 25 player. The third is the only one you could dispute, and clearly I said IMO.
Anything else?
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I have yet to see a list like this that doesn't have some bias and slant.
It's all a beauty contest, with judges that wish to stir things up to create hits. Eventually one or several of the queens will trip over her own gown.
Since most of you act like girls regarding some of these lists, I decided to use a metaphor you all will understand.
"Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy." Virgil
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I have yet to see a list like this that doesn't have some bias and slant.
It's all a beauty contest, with judges that wish to stir things up to create hits. Eventually one or several of the queens will trip over her own gown.
Since most of you act like girls regarding some of these lists, I decided to use a metaphor you all will understand.
"A political call, the fall guy accord...We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train..."
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I have yet to see a list like this that doesn't have some bias and slant.
It's all a beauty contest, with judges that wish to stir things up to create hits. Eventually one or several of the queens will trip over her own gown.
Since most of you act like girls regarding some of these lists, I decided to use a metaphor you all will understand.
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