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Spread vs. Pro Set

  • There has only been two offensive's to win a BCS title running the spread...UF and AU...and those teams had Tebow and Newton. With that said, I believe it takes talent of that caliber to run that offense and win.

    Which offense is more sustainable in D1 right now??? Thoughts??

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  • TheGoatWins said...

    There has only been two offensive's to win a BCS title running the spread...UF and AU...and those teams had Tebow and Newton. With that said, I believe it takes talent of that caliber to run that offense and win.

    Which offense is more sustainable in D1 right now??? Thoughts??

    Didn't Texas run a spread like offense with Young? Obviously not UF/Auburn territory, but there were a fair amount of QB runs.

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  • No, you have it the opposite. The spread allows teams with lesser talent to compete. It just so happened that UF and AU had two of the greatest dual threat QBs ever.

    A pro style offense is still the way to dominate as long as you have the talent. It leads to less mistakes and allows you to wear down your opponent while keeping your defense off the field.

    Both have a place in college football, and you can win with both, but if my team had superior talent, especially in the trenches, I would want to run the pro-style all the way.

    getmyjive11

  • I think your right...either way you have two heisman trophy winners and a runner up running that offense....I don't think a mediocre college QB can pull it off

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  • joetheogre said...

    Didn't Texas run a spread like offense with Young? Obviously not UF/Auburn territory, but there were a fair amount of QB runs.

    Yes, but it was more of a multiple offense IIRC.

    getmyjive11

  • getmyjive11 said...

    No, you have it the opposite. The spread allows teams with lesser talent to compete. It just so happened that UF and AU had two of the greatest dual threat QBs ever.

    A pro style offense is still the way to dominate as long as you have the talent. It leads to less mistakes and allows you to wear down your opponent while keeping your defense off the field.

    Both have a place in college football, and you can win with both, but if my team had superior talent, especially in the trenches, I would want to run the pro-style all the way.

    You're right, except for the lesser talent part. UF, with Tebow, was full of draft picks. That OU team was talented as well.

    It doesnt matter what offense you have, as long as they can protect the ball, and the defense is solid.

    Most offenses now are becoming multiple, including the pros.

    Pro style is great when matched up with a solid defenses. The best way to make a strong defense stronger, is by being able to run the ball. Not turning the ball over also keeps the defense on their side of the 50.

    CRgator1

  • Pro style for sure.

    Spread is fine until you go up against a great defense who can scheme against an open attack. All it takes is a great front seven.

    This doesn't apply when you have QB's like Tebow and Cam, but that doesn't happen often. Can you believe UF had both those QB's on the roster at the same time.. What a waste. Instead we let Cam go to keep the other of the three five star QB's on the roster, John Brantley. That worked out well..

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  • CRgator1 said...

    You're right, except for the lesser talent part. UF, with Tebow, was full of draft picks. That OU team was talented as well.

    It doesnt matter what offense you have, as long as they can protect the ball, and the defense is solid.

    Most offenses now are becoming multiple, including the pros.

    Pro style is great when matched up with a solid defenses. The best way to make a strong defense stronger, is by being able to run the ball. Not turning the ball over also keeps the defense on their side of the 50.

    Yeah, I didn't mean that UF and AU weren't talented, I meant more that mid-level teams with mid-level talent can compete with the big boys (and even pull off a couple of upsets) when they use the spread.

    getmyjive11

  • getmyjive11 said...

    Yeah, I didn't mean that UF and AU weren't talented, I meant more that mid-level teams with mid-level talent can compete with the big boys (and even pull off a couple of upsets) when they use the spread.

    I agree.

    CRgator1

  • Auburn and UF had phenomenal offensive lines.

    It's really a solid OL and good D to win it all.

    Bama/lsu beat every single team on their schedule by double digits except each other with a pro style offense.

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  • As a duck fan I (obviously) like the spread. For the most part it allows you to just run away from all the average teams that can't keep up. I think you are less likely to be upset by a weaker opponent.

    That said, if you have absolutely elite nfl talent players, which we usually don't, I would run a pro. As was mentioned an elite front 7, even an elite d-line will devastate a spread. Most of our marquee losses have been when an elite d-line blasted our o-line into the backfield (LSU, Auburn, etc).

    When our guys dont have time in the backfield to create space it destroys every advantage the spread is meant to create.

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    No, you have it the opposite. The spread allows teams with lesser talent to compete. It just so happened that UF and AU had two of the greatest dual threat QBs ever.

    A pro style offense is still the way to dominate as long as you have the talent. It leads to less mistakes and allows you to wear down your opponent while keeping your defense off the field.

    Both have a place in college football, and you can win with both, but if my team had superior talent, especially in the trenches, I would want to run the pro-style all the way.

    This. Good post +1

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  • pro style. not even close. you answered your own question

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  • swampchomp615 said...

    Pro style for sure.

    Spread is fine until you go up against a great defense who can scheme against an open attack. All it takes is a great front seven.

    This doesn't apply when you have QB's like Tebow and Cam, but that doesn't happen often. Can you believe UF had both those QB's on the roster at the same time.. What a waste. Instead we let Cam go to keep the other of the three five star QB's on the roster, John Brantley. That worked out well..

    this guy learned the hard way. team's O got absolutely shutdown once bama got halfway decent talent..

    then a year later their roster can't hardly win a damn game with spread set players

    btbama

  • ducklefty said...

    As a duck fan I (obviously) like the spread. For the most part it allows you to just run away from all the average teams that can't keep up. I think you are less likely to be upset by a weaker opponent.

    That said, if you have absolutely elite nfl talent players, which we usually don't, I would run a pro. As was mentioned an elite front 7, even an elite d-line will devastate a spread. Most of our marquee losses have been when an elite d-line blasted our o-line into the backfield (LSU, Auburn, etc).

    When our guys dont have time in the backfield to create space it destroys every advantage the spread is meant to create.

    and yall will never win a ring

    btbama

  • btbama said...

    and yall will never win a ring

    Cool story bro.

    We lost on a last minute field goal but yeah we can't hang at all. Great insight.

    ducklefty

  • btbama said...

    this guy learned the hard way. team's O got absolutely shutdown once bama got halfway decent talent..

    then a year later their roster can't hardly win a damn game with spread set players

    '09 Bama only had halfway decent talent?

    Lol

    CRgator1

  • It depends on the personnel, I would run a mutli-set that incorporates aspects of the pro and spread.

    y2joey

  • Pro style would be my choice. Run the ball, control the clock, and play good defense are all recipes for success.

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  • btbama said...

    and yall will never win a ring

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  • y2joey said...

    It depends on the personnel, I would run a mutli-set that incorporates aspects of the pro and spread.

    This.... football is situational and you should be well rounded enough to find a teams weakness and exploit it...

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  • ducklefty said...

    As a duck fan I (obviously) like the spread. For the most part it allows you to just run away from all the average teams that can't keep up. I think you are less likely to be upset by a weaker opponent.

    That said, if you have absolutely elite nfl talent players, which we usually don't, I would run a pro. As was mentioned an elite front 7, even an elite d-line will devastate a spread. Most of our marquee losses have been when an elite d-line blasted our o-line into the backfield (LSU, Auburn, etc).

    When our guys dont have time in the backfield to create space it destroys every advantage the spread is meant to create.

    An elite DL may be the case, but under Chip Kelly, all of Oregon's losses (with the exception of SC) have come when teams have at least a month to prepare for that offense. SC's DL was not elite last year, but by season's end, their pro style offense was.

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  • Action Figure said...

    An elite DL may be the case, but under Chip Kelly, all of Oregon's losses (with the exception of SC) have come when teams have at least a month to prepare for that offense. SC's DL was not elite last year, but by season's end, their pro style offense was.

    This is true as well. I didn't want to sound like I was making excuses. We legitimately were outplayed in all those games so no excuses here. USC was a different case than all those, we just flat couldn't stop their offense.

    That's one thing I've appreciated under Chip. The games we've lost, we were outplayed and probably should have lost. The games we've outplayed the opponent we've won.

    Nothing more frustrating than outplaying the opponent and getting a loss. I hate to lose but I'll accept it when the other team deserves the win. In all those cases I believe they did.

    ducklefty

  • CRgator1 said...

    You're right, except for the lesser talent part. UF, with Tebow, was full of draft picks. That OU team was talented as well.

    It doesnt matter what offense you have, as long as they can protect the ball, and the defense is solid.

    Most offenses now are becoming multiple, including the pros.

    Pro style is great when matched up with a solid defenses. The best way to make a strong defense stronger, is by being able to run the ball. Not turning the ball over also keeps the defense on their side of the 50.

    in some cases gator it also keeps the other teams offense on their side of the 50 . blackeyeuch !!!

    Crimson_Ghost

  • CRgator1 said...
    Pro style is great when matched up with a solid defenses. The best way to make a strong defense stronger, is by being able to run the ball. Not turning the ball over also keeps the defense on their side of the 50.

    Crimson_Ghost said...
    in some cases gator it also keeps the other teams offense on their side of the 50 . blackeyeuch !!!

    wow this one drew crickets .

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