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Story: So. Cal HS QBs and the Pros

  • Barkley's decision not to throw at the combine has execs and scouts frustrated. History shows that HS hype does not equal NFL success.

    Sorry SoCal story: Abysmal run of QBs from region has NFL personnel searching for answers - Yahoo! Sports

    From Yahoo! Sports: NFL scouts and executives aren't high on Matt Barkley after his decision to not throw at the NFL Combine.

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  • Clausen had the ultimate HS hype that never turned out... He was a stud in the camp circuit at a really young age but was never going to be much in the pros.

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  • kitemac said...

    Clausen had the ultimate HS hype that never turned out... He was a stud in the camp circuit at a really young age but was never going to be much in the pros.

    No one's hype has ever exceeded Ron Powlus. People were talking about him winning possibly 4 heisman's while at Notre Dame.

    This post was edited by MJRuffalo on 2/20/2013 at 3:41 PM

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    No one's hype has ever exceeded Ron Powlus. People were talking about him winning possibly 4 heisman's while at Notre Dame.

    Reminds me of I think it was Perrileaux (or however you spell his name) going to LSU and saying he was going to win four.

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  • SoCal QBs seem to receive private QB coaching from a much younger age than all other regions.

    The private QB coaching seems to allow the players to reach their ceiling much faster... but then they hit that ceiling and plateau. Once they plateau (like Barkley, for instance), the QB seems to start forcing things as if they expect more of themselves... but they can't take that next step and fall apart.

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  • Jason Cole article -

    Sorry SoCal story: Abysmal run of QBs from region has NFL personnel searching for answers - Yahoo! Sports
    From Yahoo! Sports: NFL scouts and executives aren't high on Matt Barkley after his decision to not
    throw at the NFL combine.

    This writer Jason Cole is obviously an idiot. He has to be, to write this moronic article, and I'll prove it.

    While there have been several QB bust from the Southern California region since 1983,
    what this moron Cole fails to write is that you if you look at every region, the bust rate is typically
    around 50% or worse for QB's. He cites 3 QB's from Texas, who all might end up very good,
    as examples of success, but none of them have even been in the NFL for as more than 3 years.

    Also, I like how Cole lists a bunch of 4th rd picks in his article. Can QB's drafted in the 4th round or later be considered busts? I certainly don't expect much from QB's who are 4th round picks or lower.

    Cole uses QB's drafted since 1984.
    OK - Here is a regional breakdown of QB's drafted since 1984

    QB's that had an Approx Value of 60 or higher on ProFootball Reference.com player rankings
    were considered to be successful. 35 QB's drafted since 1984 had an Approx Value of 60 or higher.

    35-59 Approx Value I considered the middle ground (average), and anything
    below 34 for a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round pick was considered to be a bust - unless
    still active and drafted 2009 or later - not fair to judge just yet.

    Southern California
    5 in top 35
    6 Busts

    Northern California
    3 in top 35
    3 Busts

    NorCal & SoCal combined
    8 in top 35
    9 Busts

    Pennsylvania
    4 in top 35
    5 Busts

    Ohio
    2 in top 35
    7 Busts

    Texas
    1 in top 35
    10 Busts

    Louisiana
    2 in top 35
    2 Busts

    Florida
    2 in top 35
    3 Busts

    Georgia
    0 in top 35
    4 Busts

    Kentucky
    0 in top 35
    3 Busts

    Alabama
    1 in top 35
    4 Busts

    Mississippi
    2 in top 35
    0 Busts

    North Carolina
    1 in top 35
    2 Busts

    Virginia
    2 in top 35
    0 Busts

    Indiana
    2 in top 35
    2 Busts

    Illinois
    1 in top 35
    2 Busts

    Minnesota
    0 in top 35
    2 Busts

    New Jersey
    1 in top 35
    3 Busts

    New York
    2 in top 35
    0 Busts

    Washington
    2 in top 35
    4 Busts

    Oregon
    0 in top 35
    2 Busts

    Oklahoma
    1 in top 35
    0 Busts

    New Mexico
    1 in top 35
    0 Busts

    As you can see, the southern California region has produced more successful QB's (5) than any other region.
    Also like I said, most of the bust rates are about 50%. Although some regions like Georgia, Alabama, Ohio, and Texas have been Bust-Ville since 1984.

    (Texas 1-Brees, & 10 Busts - really?) Haha - Texas was a state that that idiot writer Cole cited
    as a success in his article. What a dummy.

    Well hopefully Luck, RG3, and Dalton continue to have good years so that Texas QB's get back in the mix.

    The moral of the story is... don't write idiotic articles like this Yahoo hack Jason Cole.

    This post was edited by NcaaAssassinG13 on 2/21/2013 at 11:29 AM

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    No one's hype has ever exceeded Ron Powlus. People were talking about him winning possibly 4 heisman's while at Notre Dame.

    I love this clip

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    Beano Cook Predicts Ron Powlus Will Win Tw...

    From ESPN College Scoreboard that aired on November 13, 1993. After #2 Notre Dame Defeated #1 Florida State Beano Cook predicts Notre Dame will win two national championships and Ron Powlus will win two Heisman Trophies in the next four years. Of course this was not to be. © 1993 ESPN.

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  • Luck, rg3, stafford, brees, dalton, tannehill are all busts?

    Ncaaasssin is tard.

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  • Noah said...

    I love this clip

    roflmao I remember that. hahaha Good ole Beano. I miss him.

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    roflmao I remember that. hahaha Good ole Beano. I miss him.

    In the old Rivals.com Pit, Kevin Noon (now the rivals.com Ohio state pub) used to do a great Beano Cook impression. We'd have him breakdown quarterbacks and their future all the time in his Beano voice.

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  • Noah said...

    In the old Rivals.com Pit, Kevin Noon (now the rivals.com Ohio state pub) used to do a great Beano Cook impression. We'd have him breakdown quarterbacks and their future all the time in his Beano voice.

    Beano was always wrong on his pics I swear hahaha

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  • JMO but, I think Beano actually gave espn the idea to start college gameday with Corso.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    This writer Jason Cole is obviously an idiot. He has to be, to write this moronic article, and I'll prove it.

    While there have been several QB bust from the Southern California region since 1983, what this moron Cole fails to write is that you if you look at every region, the bust rate is typically around 50% or worse for QB's. He cites 3 QB's from Texas, who all might end up very good, as examples of success, but none of them have even been in the NFL for as more than 3 years.

    All I know is that USC QBs could never get it done in the pros. If the QB is from Cali and actually did something decent in the NFL it is likely because of their non-Trojan college career.

    This post was edited by Noah on 2/21/2013 at 4:42 PM

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    All I know is that USC QBs could never get it done in the pros. If the QB is from Cali and actually did something decent in the NFL it is likely because of their non-Trojan college career.

    Ya, I can tell that you don't know much, but I figured you at least knew that when Kerry Collins is the best NFL QB your school has produced, you should just stay quiet. You know, like the Penn St coaches did.

    Except your silence would be to avoid embarrassment rather than cause embarrassment.

    NcaaAssassinG13

  • Status said...

    Luck, rg3, stafford, brees, dalton, tannehill are all busts?

    Ncaaasssin is tard.

    Actually I said that guys that weren't above the 60 Approx Value mark yet but were drafted 2009 or after and are still active would not be included. So Stafford, Dalton, RG3, Luck, and Tannehill aren't included.

    Stafford's close, about 2 more good years away, but it would be stupid (like the guy who wrote that article) to consider a QB an NFL success after only 1 or 2 seasons.

    Brees is the 1 Texas QB who is obviously a success. If the rest of those guys pan out, Texas QB's will almost be
    at the level of SoCal QB's, but Texas will still have about twice as many busts.

    Btw, thanks for the compliment.

    NcaaAssassinG13

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Ya, I can tell that you don't know much, but I figured you at least knew that when Kerry Collins is the best NFL QB your school has produced, you should just stay quiet. You know, like the Penn St coaches did.

    Except your silence would be to avoid embarrassment rather than cause embarrassment.

    Well, let's make a count here....

    Super Bowl Appearances:

    Kerry Collins: 1
    USC QBs Combined: 0

    All-Time Passing Yards

    Kerry Collins: 12th all time - 40,922 yards
    USC's Highest = Carson Palmer: 40th all time - 29,465

    LOL at USC and their crappy QBs. They get to the NFL and suck ass.

    EDIT: And lol at you for referencing a PSU QB that has a better NFL career than any USC QB. What a tool you are!

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by getmyjive11 on 2/21/2013 at 6:53 PM

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    Well, let's make a count here....

    Super Bowl Appearances:

    Kerry Collins: 1
    USC QBs Combined: 0

    All-Time Passing Yards

    Kerry Collins: 12th all time - 40,922 yards
    USC's Highest = Carson Palmer: 40th all time - 29,465

    LOL at USC and their crappy QBs. They get to the NFL and suck ass.

    EDIT: And lol at you for referencing a PSU QB that has a better NFL career than any USC QB. What a tool you are!

    LMAO at you for using total yards as the end all be all for QB's and for referencing a Super Bowl that was a blowout loss for your QB.

    Carson Palmer is twice the QB your alcoholic QBCollins was, better TD/INT ratio, better completion %, better W-L record, better everything, and 2-3 more years and he will have more total yards as well. You really are a dumbchit.

    You know so many great QB's have come out of PA. Marino, Kelly, Montana, Ryan, etc. and they all have 1 thing in common. They avoided Penn St like the plague, similar to how the Penn St defense avoided playing any D vs Sanchez and USC in the '08 Rose Bowl.
    Sanchez threw for what, like 8 or 9TD's before halftime.

    Keep posting, please.

    NcaaAssassinG13

  • California QB's aren't even worth recruiting... if I was a head coach I wouldn't touch them with a 18 foot pole, I love that Jimbo never recruits them as well

    I have hated them for most of my life, for every good one there is 20+ that are just terrible between the ears

    Chris Rix, Kyle Wright, Matt Leinart, Barkley, Sanchez and on the list goes

    So many total pussies its not even funny, Max Wittek is the next 5 star crispy cum dumpster

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    Well, let's make a count here....

    Super Bowl Appearances:

    Kerry Collins: 1
    USC QBs Combined: 0

    All-Time Passing Yards

    Kerry Collins: 12th all time - 40,922 yards
    USC's Highest = Carson Palmer: 40th all time - 29,465

    LOL at USC and their crappy QBs. They get to the NFL and suck ass.

    EDIT: And lol at you for referencing a PSU QB that has a better NFL career than any USC QB. What a tool you are!

    Neither are anything to brag about so WGAF?

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  • Alonzo Harris said...

    Neither are anything to brag about so WGAF?

    +1

    Leave it to him to argue it with passion though lol

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    +1

    Leave it to him to argue it with passion though lol

    Amen.. All of the CA kids who are great NFL qb's are the lower rated ones: Kaepernick, Brady, Rodgers.

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  • Alonzo Harris said...

    Amen.. All of the CA kids who are great NFL qb's are the lower rated ones: Kaepernick, Brady, Rodgers.

    These sites are terrible at ranking QB's coming out of high school

    Its not even funny

    Every year I look at who they rank high and who they don't and just laugh hysterically

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    California QB's aren't even worth recruiting... if I was a head coach I wouldn't touch them with a 18 foot pole, I love that Jimbo never recruits them as well

    I have hated them for most of my life, for every good one there is 20+ that are just terrible between the ears

    Chris Rix, Kyle Wright, Matt Leinart, Barkley, Sanchez and on the list goes

    So many total pussies its not even funny, Max Wittek is the next 5 star crispy cum dumpster

    All bark and no bite.

    Tell us all about the 1 QB from the state of Florida currently in the NFL, and he's a better FB than a QB.

    Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer, Colin Kaepernick, Alex Smith vs Tebow.

    Fact is California has produced 16 of the top 60 NFL QB's over the last 30 years and Florida has produced Jeff Blake, D. Culpepper, and Brian Griese.

    3 QB's in 30 years!?? Wow, why can't Florida produce any good QB's Nova? That's truly shitty.

    NcaaAssassinG13

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    3 QB's in 30 years!?? Wow, why can't Florida produce any good QB's Nova? That's truly shitty.

    cause quarterbacks are gay

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